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Post Posted: 29-04-2011, 18:08:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am decis sa imi refac ghidul pentru ca era prea haotic si nu era bine organizat.

Cuprins:

I:Overview
II:Spec
III:Glyphs
IV:Rotatie
V:Cooldowns si opener pe boss
VI:Gems
VII:Stats
VIII:B.I.S. list
IX:Enchant list
X:Pet
XI:Macros
XII:Addons
XIII:Trinkets
XIV:FAQ

I:In esenta hunterul marksmanship este in mare parte un range physical dps, de altfel singurul ranged physical dps din joc cu o versatilitate foarte mare in PvE cu diferite support spells si un DPS destul de mare pentru a fii in varful unui dps meter.

II:Spec

Best spec Acest spec este best, alte variatii sunt mai proaste deci degeaba le incercati.

Daca raidul vostru are la activ 3-4 hunteri in componenta este bine sa folositi: ] Hunters mark spec Este recomandat sa folositi si Glyph of Hunter's Mark glyphul il folositi doar la acest spec.

III:Glyphs

Glyphs obligatorii sunt:
Glyph of Serpent Sting
Glyph of Steady Shot
Daca jucati la Hunters Mark spec o sa folositi:
Glyph of Hunter's Mark ca si al-3-lea glyph.

Al-3-lea glyph poate fii:
Glyph of the hawk
Glyph of Chimera Shot , recomand doar pe evolution daca jucati pentru ca acolo nu e delay pe genesis nu se merita.
Glyph of Kill Shot

IV:Rotatie

Aici mergeti pe un sistem de proritati, daca este disponibil la cast un spell mai sus in lista il castati pe acela:
Quote:

1.Kill Shot(cand este bossul sub 20%)
2.Serpent Sting(DACA NU ESTE pe boss)
3.Chimera Shot
4.Aimed Shot
5.Arcane Shot (daca aveti peste 500 armor pen rating-35% aprox-nu mai folositi arcane shot decat atunci cand va miscati)
6.Steady Shot


De obicei Chimera si Aimed vor venii in acelasi timp.

V:Cooldowns si opener pe boss
OPENER:
Rapid Fire si Readiness se dau la inceptul unui boss fight pentru ca o sa le mai prindeti la sfarsit inca o data, ca opener incepeti cam asa.
Quote:
Serpent Sting
Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
RApid fire
4x Steady
Chimera Shot
Aimed Shot
Readiness
Chimera shot
Aimed Shot
Rapid fire
4x Steady


Si de aici puteti repeta cycle da baza Chimera Aimed 4x Steady

Pet abilities mai bine le tineti pe auto-cast pentru inceput, adica acel mic patrat stralucitor care se face in jur la spell cand dati clock dreapta pe el, Call of The wild ati putea sa il tineti totusi doar pentru boss sa nu il dati din greseala la trash.

VI:Gems
Daca aveti sub ~600 armor penetration rating din gear(~42%) puneti in modul urmator:
Red Sockets: Delicate Cardinal Ruby
Yellow Sockets: Deadly Ametrine
Blue Socket: Nightmare Tear] -Acesta puneti doar unul unde vedeti ca daca socketati cu blue socket o sa aveti cel mai mare socket bonus. In restu de albastre puneti Delicate Cardinal Ruby .

Daca aveti peste 600 armor penetration rating din GEAR.
Red Sockets: Fractured Cardinal Ruby (cel cu 20 armor penetretion rating)
Yellow: Deadly Ametrine -Tineti doar 1, de preferat in ashen ring daca faceti si pvp, in restu de sloturi galbene puneti socket cu 20 arp.
Blue: Nightmare Tear] -Acesta puneti doar unul unde vedeti ca daca socketati cu blue socket o sa aveti cel mai mare socket bonus, in restu de sloturi albastre puneti sockete cu 20 arp.

La orice gear level daca nu aveti hit cap socket Rigid King's Amber

META SOCKET: Relentless Earthsiege Diamond

VII:Stats
Ratings
32.79 Hit Rating = 1% Hit
45.91 Crit Rating = 1% Crit
32.79 Haste Rating = 1% Haste

Attack Power
14 AP (attack power) = 1 dps (auto shot)

Agility
1 Agility = 1 AP
83.33 Agility = 1% crit or 1 Agil = .55 Crit Rating
79.19 Agility = 1% Dodge
1 Agility = 2 Armor

Armor Penetration
14 Armor Pen Rating = 1% armor reduction (Cap la arp e 1400 cum nu poti avea peste 100%)

Hit cap(adica cand pierdeti sansa de a rata o lovitura) este de 8%, pentru ca aveti din talentul Focused Aim 3% trebuie sa aveti 5% din gear, sockets si enchanturi daca sunteti horde si 4% daca sunteti alianta si stiti ca veti avea un draenei in grup sau sunteti draenei.

Ordinea prioritatii stats(adica de la cel mai imp la cel mai prost):Hit rating(pana aveti hit cap)>(Armor pen daca aveti peste 600 rating vine aici)>Agi>(Armor pen daca aveti sub vine aici)>Crit>Atack power>Haste

VIII:B.I.S. list
Head: Sanctified Ahn'Kahar Blood Hunter's Headpiece
Neck: Sindragosa's Cruel Claw
Shoulders: Sanctified Ahn'Kahar Blood Hunter's Spaulders
Back: Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape
Chest: Sanctified Ahn'Kahar Blood Hunter's Tunic
Wrist: Toskk's Maximized Wristguards
Gloves: Sanctified Ahn'Kahar Blood Hunter's Handguards
Belt: Nerub'ar Stalker's Cord
Legs: Leggings of Northern Lights
Feet: Returning Footfalls
Ring 1 : AShen ring
Ring 2: Frostbrood Sapphire Ring
Trincket 1: Deathbringer's Will sau daca puteti pune mana pe Death's Choice Care e mai bun ca dbw ptr hunteri.
Trincket 2: Sharpened Twilight Scale
Range wep: Fal'inrush, Defender of Quel'thalas sau daca nu aveti acces la Lich King Zod's Repeating Longbow
Melle wep: Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General sau daca nu aveti acces la Lich king Distant Land

IX:Enchant list
Head: Arcanum of Torment (wowhead link)
Shoulders: Greater Inscription of the Axe (wowhead link)
Back: Enchant Cloak - Major Agility (wowhead link)
Chest: Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats (wowhead link)
Wrist: Enchant Bracers - Greater Assault (wowhead link)
Hands Enchant Gloves - Crusher (wowhead link) sau daca vreti sa faceti hit cap si stackati armor penetration Enchant Gloves - Precision (wowhead link) Optiunea asta elibereaza un loc ptr un socket cu arp unde era 20 hit inainte.
Belt: Eternal Belt Buckle
Legs: Icescale Leg Armor
Boots: Enchant Boots - Superior Agility (wowhead link) sau Enchant Boots - Icewalker (wowhead link) Daca incercati sa faceti hit cap si mai aveti nevoie de foarte putin.
Range wep: Heartseeker Scope (wowhead link)
Melle wep: Enchant 2H Weapon - Massacre (wowhead link)

X:Pet

Best pet este wolf, uitati si un spec pentru el: Spec .

XI:Macros
Chimera Shot macro:
Quote:
#showtooltip chimera shot
#show chimera shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] kill command
/cast chimera shot
/cast silencing shot


Aimed Shot macro:
Quote:
#showtooltip aimed shot
#show aimed shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] kill command
/cast aimed shot
/cast silencing shot


Arcane Shot macro:
Quote:
#showtooltip arcane shot
#show arcane shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] kill command
/cast arcane shot
/cast silencing shot


Serpent sting macro:
Quote:
#showtooltip serpent sting
#show serpent sting
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] kill command
/cast serpent sting
/cast silencing shot


Steady shot macro:
Quote:
#showtooltip steady shot
#show steady shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] kill command
/cast steady shot
/cast silencing shot


Misdirect macro:
Quote:
/cast [target=focus] Misdirection


Remove detterence macro:
Quote:
/cancelaura Deterrence


Masters call mouseover macro:
Quote:
#showtooltip Master's Call
#show Master's Call
/cast [target=mouseover,exists][target=player] Master's Call


XII:Adonns

- Deadly Boss Mode , foarte util, te avertizeaza in legatura cu abilitatile bosilor
- Quartz un cast bar, poti vedea ce castezi, ce spelluri de alte tale afecteaza tinta si cel mai util este acel "Swing Timer"(bara mica alba) care iti arata cum trage Auto-Shot, astfel cand se gata de incarcat acea bara alba daca poti te opresti tragi inca o sageata si te misti mai departe.
- Recount Inregistreaza DPS(damage per second), HPS(heal per second) la membrii raidului.
- Omen Thread Meter Inregistreaza Threatul pe care il fac membrii raidului, asa numitul "aggro".
- Omnicc Dupa mine cel mai important addon pentru hunter pve pentru setarea cu milisecunde pentru a vedea cum iti vin cd's mai bine. Aici puneti setarile acestea 2 asa si ar trebuii sa va arate cam asa .

XIII:Trinkets
DE la cel mai bun la cel mai prost:
1. Mark of supremacy (numai daca este folosit tot hit ratingu ca sa ajungeti la hit cap)
1.1. STS
2. DBW (la unele levels de gear s-ar putea sa fie mai bun DV
3. DV
4. WFS
5. Herkuml war token
6. Mjolnir Rune stone
7. Neddle encrusted scorpion
8. Greatness
9. Mark of supremacy (daca faceti peste hit cap cu mult cu trincketul acesta)
10. Mirror of truth



XIV:FAQ
Aici voi posta diversele nelamuriri in legatura cu abilitatile clasei pe care am obervat ca le au unii (whispers primite, pm's pe forum etc) ca sa stie toata lumea.
1.
Quote:

Creste dmgul cu numarul scris acolo cand este aplicat efectul?

Raspunsul este nu, efectul care tine 10 secunde despre care scrie este doar cel de 50% heal reduce, celalalt arata cat dmg are aimed shot mai mult fata de un atac normal cu arma.
2.
Quote:

De ce sa tin talente in asa ceva? E doar 50% wep dmg e inutil.

Pentru ca Silencing Shot nu tine cont de global cooldown(acel cooldown care apare de fiecare data cand este folosita o abilitate, in general), astfel folositi macro care le-am oferit in guide si il va da la secunda fara incercare, fata de celalalte talente disponibile un spell care da 50% weapon dmg odata la 20 de secunde nu e de lepadat.
3
Quote:
Care e treaba cu reaplicarea la Serpent Sting? Am citit ceva pe un forum.

Cand vine vorba de procs(efectele itemelor sau talentele cu sansa de activare) Serpent Sting nu trebuie reaplicat pentru procuri de genul Atack Power sau Agi, isi reimprospateaza singur cantiatea de damage care o da. DAR cand vine vorba de procuri gen *(2) Set: Your Auto Shots have a 5% chance to cause you and your pet to deal 15% additional damage for 10 sec.* de la tier 10 care sunt cu % damage, atunci trebuie reaplicat o data daca nu era deja aplicat cu acest efect de item, dupa aceea nu prea aveti de ce sa va faceti griji, chimera shot ii va reseta timpul in care sta pe boss la nesfarsit.
P.S.: Daca jucati la 2 piese Tier 9 ar fii o idee sa puneti din nou serpent sting cand aveti un proc cu Critical Strike Rating sau Agility(care creste critical strike rating).
4.
Quote:
Cum fac cand imi vine Chimera Shot sa stiu daca mai dau un Steady Shot sau sa astept Chimera Shot?

Este recomandat sa aveti OmniCC si sa il aveti configurat sa va arate in zecimi de secunda cooldownul ramas (vezi sectiunea addons-o voi scrie dupa ce va porni din nou serverul), in general daca sunt peste 0.8 sec ramase pana vine Chimera mai puteti da un Steady, daca sunt sub 0.8 sec ramase asteptati sa vina Chimera fara sa mai dati inca un Steady Shot.
5.
Quote:
De ce este Kill Shot in "Rotatie", nu pot incepe cu el?

Kill Shot se ia in considerare doar cand mobul e sub 20%.
6.
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Daca las Serpent Sting sa dea damage mai mult timp creste damageul care il da Chimera Shot?

Nu, Chimera Shot da acel 40% damage din TOTALUL care l-AR PUTEA da Serpent Sting, astfel nu conteaza daca dai Chimera la 1 secunda dupa ce ai pus Serpent Sting sau la 10 secunde de exemplu.










Astept critci si sa ziceti daca mai vreti sa scriu despre ceva in guide. Maine ma apuc sa il traduc in engleza si il pun si la cealalta sectiune.



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scz k postez asa devreme - am un hunter http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&&cn=Dausifugg si in icc mai mult de 6k nu scot -


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scz k postez asa devreme - am un hunter http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&&cn=Dausifugg si in icc mai mult de 6k nu scot -


Dami pm cu ceea ce faci in materie de dps la boss si iti zic unde gresesti, o sa ma uit si ce gear si enchants ai cand revin la pc(postez dp telefon).

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Gj +1 rep, foarte bun si interesant, dar as mai avea o intrebare de nob, macrouriile le fac pe toate si la pun in loc la acel spel, adic, in loc de ss pun macroul lui?


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Gj +1 rep, foarte bun si interesant, dar as mai avea o intrebare de nob, macrouriile le fac pe toate si la pun in loc la acel spel, adic, in loc de ss pun macroul lui?


Da, macro inlocuieste spellul.

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sh cum ar fi indicat cu macro sau spelurii? Ma gandesc k e tot aia -


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sh cum ar fi indicat cu macro sau spelurii? Ma gandesc k e tot aia -


Daca folosesti macros in loc de spellul pentru macro o sa iti casteze silencing shot si kill command in secunda in care ies de pe cd.

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am inteles Tx de ajutor :d


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Updated with trikets ,soon update translated to english.
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foarte bun tutorialul.am o problema...scot in jur de 6 k dps in icc.respect rotatia si nu stiu ce ar putea fi .asta e charu meuhttp://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&cn=Flashylol.astept un raspuns.multumesc
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ai mult prea putin armor penetration, sugerez ca pana cand faci rost de dbw/scale sa socketezi aggility si nu attack power, arpen sockets pastreazale pana cand scapi de pvp gear si o sa ai vreo 30-40%ar pen daor din gear/no proc or other shietz

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ai mult prea putin armor penetration, sugerez ca pana cand faci rost de dbw/scale sa socketezi aggility si nu attack power, arpen sockets pastreazale pana cand scapi de pvp gear si o sa ai vreo 30-40%ar pen daor din gear/no proc or other shietz


What he said.

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ok.mam pus full agility si miam luat feet pve acu mai ramane un wrist de luat si am observat ca dau mai bine .multumesc pentru sfat
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Alexander0810 wrote:
BritR wrote:
ai mult prea putin armor penetration, sugerez ca pana cand faci rost de dbw/scale sa socketezi aggility si nu attack power, arpen sockets pastreazale pana cand scapi de pvp gear si o sa ai vreo 30-40%ar pen daor din gear/no proc or other shietz


What he said.


Arp ? why ? si daca tot vrei arp trebuie sa ai 70-75+ % din gear si dupa sa te soketezi pana`n gat - asa k stick to agility



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Pentru Alexander un mic FYI:

Nu stiu daca mai e cazul dar acum cateva luni se intampla in timpul bossului cand schimbam targetu sa mi se buguiasca autoshot-ul si ma trezeam cu un foarte mic DPS.
as sugera la macrourile tale adaugat si un "/cast !AutoShot"
Mai mult nu stiu cat de bug dar se intampla de foarte multe ori cand schimbi targetu autoshot-ul sa se duca pe targetul anterior chiar daca tu faci dps pe alt mob.. uneori mi s-a intamplat ca autoshot-ul sa de duca intr-un npc mort.




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