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Post Posted: 17-03-2019, 09:45:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=239042&&name=concordance-of-the-legionfall
Bug description: It procs from Wisdom and makes us waste a proc before fight starts.
Proof: Look at the start of these videos. They have no proc of concordance unless they use damage abilities.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wGINXjWtg4A:


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wf--nZOWwk4:


https://youtube.com/watch?v=T6olum8Tpg4&t=1082:

at minute 18:02 he has 10 seconds before he engage the dummy with his buffs and had no proc of concordance.

Update by Elvenking:
Read last post for actual bug report.
Basically concordance shouldn't procc from out of combat healing effects at all.



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Post Posted: 17-03-2019, 13:11:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I can confirm this bug.
Just not sure in which category this belongs as it is not only wisdom, but many other things too that procc concordance too.
(Not just thinking about paladin, but global for all classes)
Also stuff like the kara neck Choker of Barbed Reins procc from wisdom and healing too, which leads to fail pulling bosses when you go too close.

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Post Posted: 27-03-2019, 14:12:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The proc trigger from an activity ,like eating ,entering stealth ,but sometimes procs even when u just walk or stay afk . Concordance doesnt have the right conditions set to proc .


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Post Posted: 27-03-2019, 15:37:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Concordance is procing very randomly . yesterday It was procing when my monk was healing me and I wasn't doing any damage.


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Post Posted: 30-03-2019, 15:04:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

So, i finally had time to dig deeper into this topic.
First of all every spell that heals, does dmg, applies absorb or gives any other positive/negative effect can procc concordance.
So wisdom can obviously procc it too, here a proof where it procced from wisdom:

Video in spoiler at 10:42


Just from watching a few ret PoV i came to the conclusion that concordance needs either combat to procc at all,
or it can't procc from overhealing effects and should therefore ignore wisdom until it actually heals something.

Very hard to find a situation where they are out of combat and wisdom ticks as you see no healing numbers when the healer is on 100% hp.

Finally i can just say that this bug is actually not that huge of a deal in raids as 2 RPPM means that even if you get a wasted procc before pull doesn't make the overall performance worse in a longer bossfight.
It might although be more annoying in m+ when it constantly proccs between trashgrps.

Update @ 30-03-2019, 15:04:49

Here some further discussion that concordance should probably not procc out of combat at all from healing effects:
- https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20755046633
"It only procs in combat."

- https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2213930-concordance-of-the-legionfall
"Traditonally, some healing procs only work in combat"

- https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759527864
"Need to be in combat to trigger."

- https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20755566770
"Need to be in combat for it to work I'm 99.99% sure."
"Yeah most proc things like that and trinkets work in combat only like Healbotuser mentioned."



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