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Post Posted: 19-08-2020, 02:03:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Damage is lower probably because they fixed the AOTD Ghoul's Death debuff that was increasing DA damage. So yeah, -15% damage on DA, but it's not a bug.

https://trello.com/c/ZRciTRwG/1075-death-knightunholy-dark-arbiter-and-death-interaction

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Post Posted: 19-08-2020, 17:43:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

naboum wrote:
Damage is lower probably because they fixed the AOTD Ghoul's Death debuff that was increasing DA damage. So yeah, -15% damage on DA, but it's not a bug.

https://trello.com/c/ZRciTRwG/1075-death-knightunholy-dark-arbiter-and-death-interaction


good info but dmg feels lower more than just 15%, and it's still lower than retail dmg (while we're mostly outgearing retails DKs so the dmg should be slightly higher)

Mby before 2021 a dk class mod will enter the forum and see this topic


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Post Posted: 20-08-2020, 16:05:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What is he gonna say ? You're not bringing any tangible proof.

I did the math behind DA damage and it's totally fine.
You can check yourself :
DA_damage = attack_power * 2.2 * 1.05 * 1.05 * 1.1 * versatility * mastery
With shoulders, multiply the DA damage by 1.4
Then, with shadow empowerment, multiply all of it by 1 + (1% * rp_spent)

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Let's use an example :
Personally I have 52115 strength, which means 52115 attack power. I also have 9.08% versatility and 98.71% mastery.
So DA_damage = 52115 * 2.2 * 1.05 * 1.05 * 1.1 * 1.0908 * 1.9871 = 301 384

This is verified in game :
https://i.imgur.com/X5bCKSA.png

Now I'll use legendary shoulders :
DA_damage = 301384 * 1.4 = 421 937

Verified again :
https://i.imgur.com/yu6maPx.png

Now I'll cast 3 death coils, which means I'll spend 45*3 runic power :

DA_damage = 421 937 * (1 + (45 * 3 * 0.01)) = 991 551,95

Again it checks out :
https://i.imgur.com/iarlULy.png

I also tried with procs (crucible, concordance, unholy strength), nothing wrong :
https://i.imgur.com/1u1634o.png

I don't see anything wrong with Dark Arbiter.

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Post Posted: 20-08-2020, 16:14:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

if it's blizzlike, then great, still feels sad that the dmg is ~30mil lower on bl and ~10-15 without it, feels way more than 15% less

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Post Posted: 21-08-2020, 02:50:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

everytime you try to fix something , you *** something else ... WTF is this mario ?

and if you come to me and tell me this is normal for 990 + 91 traits + haste caps for da atacks is normal than you need to figure whats wrong , thats why you have cmods and devs

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Post Posted: 21-08-2020, 19:31:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

alinho wrote:
everytime you try to fix something , you *** something else ... WTF is this mario ?

and if you come to me and tell me this is normal for 990 + 91 traits + haste caps for da atacks is normal than you need to figure whats wrong , thats why you have cmods and devs

https://imgur.com/a/pDqDgju


22 DA hits, porn for my eyes

I had such DAs dmg at 965 ilvl back then with BL only(18hits) - before smth was "fixed"


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Post Posted: 21-08-2020, 21:45:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Happened me today at Varimathras when i summoned Dark Arbiter 2 times and he didnt attacked https://imgur.com/rs9maed -


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Post Posted: 22-08-2020, 00:26:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

alinho wrote:
everytime you try to fix something , you *** something else ... WTF is this mario ?

https://imgur.com/a/pDqDgju


A pet doing half of your damage , crying that is not doing enough.... What happen with this game?




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Post Posted: 22-08-2020, 00:36:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Iplayferal wrote:
alinho wrote:
everytime you try to fix something , you *** something else ... WTF is this mario ?

https://imgur.com/a/pDqDgju


A pet doing half of your damage , crying that is not doing enough.... What happen with this game?

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Post Posted: 07-09-2020, 21:09:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I did a quite a few tries on dummy , the Recount links you provided have really low crit chances on it's damage , if you try to look into the DAs from the dks on log each of them atleast has 30-35% crit chance on its hits and not 1-2 critical hit out of 22 overall hits .
From what I could see the damage is fine and it's amplifiers are working as they should , just the ammount of crits always somehow seems to be lacking , in general whatever you guys say is comparing yourself to a rank1-10 log with your s**ty pull where your normal DA hit is almost bigger than the only crit you did on that pull .

@naboum I saw you complained about AoTD retail compared to here I'll check that out later on but for now I'll do more testing about DA specifically even tho there isn't much to be done for it .

The main issue with is that the disappearance bug in mid-fight started being too frequent . There were already multiple "fixes" without succesion , I will open a new trello card with your proofs of DA not doing damage at all during an encounter .
Meanwhile I'd suggest to anyone whom the bug is happening all too often to keep track of how and where it usually happens , if there is a hint towards how it bugs out it might help me figure out what it could be or the developer when he tries to check why it's acting in such a way in raids / dungeons .

@dyon https://trello.com/c/GxogFkUG/863-death-knightunholydark-arbiter-doesnt-do-damage-flies-away-sometimes-on-boss-pulls-raids-mostly Added your SS as additional proof of it starting to happen again more frequently to an old report .


@Iplayferal You've been warned a few times for your childlike behaviour on forums , if you can't contribute at all besides throwing random comments and provoking other players while they're trying to debate something please don't join in the discussion at all .

I want to apologize for the long waiting time for any type of response I was busy IRL , if you need more help or want to discuss this further please DM me on discord .
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Rejected , if by any chance you provide solid proof of what isn't working on it please open a new forum post .


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