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[REJECTED] [Shaman][Elemental] Echo of the Elements Exploit

 
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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 12:55:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=108283&&name=echo-of-the-elements

Bug description: "Echo of the Elements" passive is permanently remain on shamans if they at least once mark and learn the talent. After unlearning "Echo of the Elements", the talent is permanently bound to shamans, persisting even through relog. I use the word Exploit in the title because the shamans gain an insane advantage in PVE/PVP, they can switch Echo with one of the other two neighbor talents ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=16166&&name=elemental-mastery , https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=16188&&name=ancestral-swiftness ) and basically have 2 talents from the same tier at once. It's not a bannable exploit because many of the shamans are not awared of doing this, it's more a big-ass bug.



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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 13:12:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

This was already discussed months ago and the conclusion was "echo of the elements does NOT persist", can't find the topic and can't remember what it was about exactly, anyone remembers?

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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 14:13:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Well I know that were some problems in the past with this talent, I can't remember either what was discussed or fixed, the coclusion of my post is that the passive effect of "Echo of the Elements" is still applied on shaman spells after the talent is removed/replaced. What piece of info are you seeking, about what...maybe i can help searching. Was the topic a bug report/a random post?
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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 14:13:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The main idea was that the copied proc was not from echo of the elements, but from something else legit

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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 15:12:34 [Valuable post] | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker wrote:
The main idea was that the copied proc was not from echo of the elements, but from something else legit

you mean elemental shamans mastery ? cause that`s the only thing than can dupe a damaging spell @shams. I think you can test as enha/resto sham and see if it persists @sidef. Also, the vid is private



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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 15:14:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Amnezx wrote:
Shocker wrote:
The main idea was that the copied proc was not from echo of the elements, but from something else legit

you mean elemental shamans mastery ? cause that`s the only thing than can dupe a damaging spell @shams. I think you can test as enha/resto sham and see if it persists @sidef. Also, the vid is private
Exactly, Elemental Overload, that's it


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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 15:43:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

No, I mean "Echo of the Elements", and the full damage of a spell affected by the talent like Lava burst/Lighting bolt. The mastery is copying 75% from the original hit I'm aware of this. I heard about this bug before and somehow this morning i manage to reproduce it on my shaman, my LB hit was copied without the talent(with the hit from echo even a little bigger).
I must do a better proof video/prints and try to do some repro steps because i tried to do it again and this time after i unlearned the talent it worked fine. This is strange, i will return later this day with i hope some repro steps.

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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 15:52:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

We know you mean Echo of the Elements but we're telling you you also have Elemental Overload mastery which also copies (ignore the 75% part, it's confusing). Simply test on enha/resto, and not on ele where you have Elemental Overload

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Post Posted: 03-03-2017, 17:17:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I tested it and it didn't remain on shamans.The proc you saw is from mastery, it's very confusing.I can make a video for you,sidef if you want.

Edit:I make 2 videos:in first you can see Restoration spec with echo of the elements
In the second video you can see Restoration spec without echo of the elements
1) https://youtube.com/watch?v=I7RrWJK4KrI:


2) https://youtube.com/watch?v=_pMssGwNbus:


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Post Posted: 20-05-2017, 20:27:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Carolas2 provided the proof. I've done numerous tests as non-elemental and it never procced twice without Echo.


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