[REJECTED] [Warlock][Affliction] Agony damage after "too big damage" fix... VERY LOW

[Artofshadow]

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=980&&name=agony
Bug description: Agony damage very low
Proof: http://imgur.com/a/JKDng

The damage of agony in the no-gear photo is even lower than the damage in which i proved that agony damage is low after reapply: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Warlock-Affliction-Agony-damage-after-reapplying-t407647.html

To prove with gear that the damage is very wrong.. Agony has LOWER damage than Unstable Affliction!!!!!! There is no way that is possible. Please, next time when you try to fix something don't take into consideration trash talk of the other people and test it thoroughly!!

The damage coefficient that you fixed @shocker is wrong.

To other "acknowledged" players of other classes... If you don't know what warlock means.. Stop inventing bugs.

Also, i took my time and thought of an hypothesis: The warlock that Shodan linked recount of has this trinket: https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=96413&&name=wushoolay-s-final-choice as well as i do, but the normal version. The thing is, all the dots are dealing alot of damage with that trinket and i'm really sure that in the "proof" that Shodan posted, the warlock was multidotting and with that trinket it is really PLAUSIBLE that agony has that much damage done considering duration and haste breakpoints(giving agony extra ticks).

[Legionkiller]

Confirm. Agony is our most powerful dot and now it deals less dmg than UA....

[Scott]

In fact it's perfect, look at this world of logs where UA does higher ticks than agony, also the damage order in your screen is the same as in the world of logs.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-xmh5nekpkf8q10zc/details/18/?s=2097&&e=2231

[Artofshadow]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=v8HqF-0egDY:

More proof that agony should be around 40-50% of our damage. Look at the charts section.

[Shodan]

^ Video from 5.1 .... Great Job ! When agony had another formula ...

Anyway I was not the one who told shocker what was wrong . I just said that something was wrong . He was the one who "discovered" and fixed it .

Not saying that now works how it should since i didn't do any raids/pvp to see .

And if you tell me that the damage Agony was doing until yesterday was correct . SI CA "MERGEA BINE" ... Ba art esti stricat la minte ma jur mai stricat ca Seyrox (pana si ala a recunoscut intr-un final ca nu are cum sa dea asa tare) .



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[Artofshadow]

I agree with you that the video is from 5.1. But according to https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=131737 (wowhead link) , Agony has been buffed in 5.4.1.( dealing more damage in total)

Posturi unite automat, 29-01-2016, 15:05:48

And the formula for https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=980 is wrong. It should be "Inflicts increasing agony on the target, causing up to 324 (+30.6% SP)*10 Shadow damage over 24 seconds."(According to 5.4.1 formula)

This damage is dealt slowly at first and builds up each time it deals damage.

[Shodan]

^ Test the formula ingame not based on the wow freakz spell finder ...

Actually overall if you do the math the formula from 5.1 deals more damge than the 5.4.1 one .

Because the 5.1 formula had the tooltip for one tick damage and the 5.4.1 one has the full damage with 12 ticks .

Assuming you have 30.000 sp and 0% mastery and 0 haste .

With the 5.1 formula you get around : 1104 damge with the first tick
With the 5.4.1 formula you get : 792 damage with the first tick.

Ofc with only the first stack and 0% mastery this difference looks prettly low but at 10 stacks and ~85% mastery you will see a big difference .



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[Shocker]

Please stop posting "OMG DAMAGE TOO LOW" and actually do some calculations/formulas/proofs/etc.
Scott posted proof it works ok:

Scott wrote:

In fact it's perfect, look at this world of logs where UA does higher ticks than agony, also the damage order in your screen is the same as in the world of logs. http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-xmh5nekpkf8q10zc/details/18/?s=2097&&e=2231

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[Seyrox]

Actually i did some tests and damage is lower than the tooltip
http://imgur.com/TYDhGUS

27 + 0.0255 * sp

i think it misses something either 0.0255 * sp or the 27 but overall its fine


In my print i have 16726 spellpower and 71% dmg increase on agony

If we have (27+0.0255*sp)*1.71(mastery)*11(at max stacks)=8530 which is 300 damge lower

and if we do (0.0255*sp)*1.71(mastery)*11(at max stacks)=8022

but if we do (27+0.025*sp)*1.71(mastery)*11(at max stacks)=8373 which is 100 damage higher

I think it misses from 0.0255 THE LAST 5 so this *** up the damage @shocker

P.S Please fix demo affli too hard



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[Shocker]

I don't think the tooltip is a good enough proof in our case, I don't understand how blizz made the agony tooltip calculations but they're pretty strange. With the old formula damage was much higher than the tooltip, with the new formula damage is lower. As said, I don't think the tooltip shows the correct damage

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[Cripper25]

True.. Now my UA does more damage then Agony.

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[Nytrox]

Stop crying,it's working perfectly.
The damage was higher before stacking damage fix because the formula was wrong(I don't know exactly when it bugged,a few months ago it was working well).
You can see here that the same formula was applied on retail too.
Also,I made some dps tests on dummy and the damage is exactly like on worldoflogs(26-22% to 23%-22%,depending on log).I had agony and ua variating from 27%/21% to 23%/22%(sometimes you get better snapshots).

[Cripper25]

Nytrox wrote:

Stop crying,it's working perfectly. The damage was higher before stacking damage fix because the formula was wrong(I don't know exactly when it bugged,a few months ago it was working well). You can see here that the same formula was applied on retail too. Also,I made some dps tests on dummy and the damage is exactly like on worldoflogs(26-22% to 23%-22%,depending on log).I had agony and ua variating from 27%/21% to 23%/22%(sometimes you get better snapshots).

And how can u explain us why UA does more damage then agony ?

[Nytrox]

It doesn't.
You applied ua and agony without procs and you waited to see its damage.
In a real dps test,agony will do more damage because it lasts longer and it benefits more from your procs(also you'll have it at 10 stacks all the time).
I just told you that in every test I did (20m damage), agony damage was higher than ua's.

[Legionkiller]

Nytrox wrote:

It doesn't. You applied ua and agony without procs and you waited to see its damage. In a real dps test,agony will do more damage because it lasts longer and it benefits more from your procs(also you'll have it at 10 stacks all the time). I just told you that in every test I did (20m damage), agony damage was higher than ua's.

We're talking about dot damage not the entire damage over time. Agony scales much better with haste than UA... that's why you got more dmg over time with it. You can see the haaste breakpoints in this vid.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dKX8ckluxzk:



min 0:33( i know this vid is from 5.4.2 but haste breakpoints doesn't change)