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Post Posted: 17-09-2019, 01:02:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=61304

Bug description:

I have a problem with global cooldown, I do not know if it happens to everyone, the issue is that as we all know, global cooldown takes about a second between skills to use the next skill. What happens here is that when I use a skill, global cooldown comes, but just when it ends, if I use the next skill immediately after global cooldown, a type of second global cooldown or mini cooldown is activated, I have to press the ability for a second time. I know this is a failure and it is true because I play world of warcraft from the vanilla on the official server, I came to play here in this server because BFA is actually very boring, I say this so that no moderator sees it and without even taking it in account say "DON'T INVENT BUGS", this bug or situation is very annoying because I am main rogue in the subtlety specialization, in this patch specifically, 7.2.5, shadow dance lasts five seconds, during those five seconds I should be able to do this rotation:

--- shadowdance, symbols of death, cold blood, shadowstrike, shadowstrike, cheapshot, evicerate, cheapshot and even goremaw´s bite. All this in those 5 seconds if the global cooldown was in perfect condition.

What happens is that during those 5 seconds, with a lot of luck I can barely manage to reach the second shadowstrike and the truth is that this is a very annoying situation, because in pvp every second counts and mainly if you are a subtlety rogue. I would like to know if this has a solution or if you can take it into account.



Proof:

proof that i should be capable of do tha rotation a mentioned before (look in the 14:28 of the video):

https://youtube.com/watch?v=I9unssRGHOE&t=878:



it was the only video i got it.



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Post Posted: 17-09-2019, 08:24:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

please provide video proof that you are not able to do this, make a screencap of some form that shows you trying this and try to also show your haste, without it this report is useless since we can't see whats actually going wrong for you.
I also see that you're from Costa Rica, which is quite far away from where the Host is located, this can cause some issues with high latency etc.

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Post Posted: 18-09-2019, 21:31:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ok, i will doi it, gonna download a recorder software
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Post Posted: 18-09-2019, 21:48:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

This happens to me as well but I never noticed it and thought that this was a problem from my side.
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Post Posted: 18-09-2019, 23:21:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Here is the video:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PWCLV0XI2wc:



As you can see, it is a tiny "second" global CD after the global CD, this consumes time in my rotation, i spoke to some others friends froms Romania and they tell me that they also have it.

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Post Posted: 20-09-2019, 01:47:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i kind of discovered a new thing, if i spam "shadowstrike" there is no bug or second Global CD, but if i use other skill like, shadowstrike, then shadow dance, and againg shadowstrike, in this case there is the bug in the Global CD
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Post Posted: 20-09-2019, 06:36:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

you can find this bug clearer with Feral Druid's Ferocious Bite(FB). Build up combo points and hit FB, you can clearly see the FB animation but it wont cast because of this secondary GCD.
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Post Posted: 20-09-2019, 21:24:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yeah, to the people who use specs like Feral or subtlety is very annoying because you need all those lost microseconds to complete your rotation, even to re-stung your enemy if they trinket, it must be quick, but this second GCD puts you at a clear disadvantage. I also have a warrior and also feel it, even with my paladin, but it is less annoying but it still exists.

Update @ 20-09-2019, 22:24:00

I think this has not been reported because the people got used to it or the new players learned that this is normal, but it is not, i want it to be corrected because i want to enjoy my rogue and I want others not to feel it either.



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Post Posted: 21-09-2019, 11:45:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I have noticed this second global cooldown when I cast Odyn's fury on warrior. I don't have a very good pc to record, otherwise, I could have shown that when odyn's fury is casted, it takes 1 extra second to cast it which puts warriors at a disadvantage because the battle cry window is all a warrior depends on.
This is what happens to me, I don't know about others.



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Post Posted: 21-09-2019, 11:54:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yeah, i mainly have it when i use a different skill instead of spam shadowstrike for example
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Post Posted: 21-09-2019, 18:50:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

It must certainly be due to the distance form the host. I am too from america and i very oftenly experience theese micro freezes inbetween skills, makes playing fast characters more difficult. It happens with all classes, with all specs, but it's only notticeable when you are spamming skills with less than 1s of GCD or with no cast time.

I main mage and i am frustrated with my performance and watching videos from retail i could clearly see that they've got no such stutters and micro lags. Most of the time i play with 180ms aprox, but it always does seem like more and it isn't stable either.



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Post Posted: 21-09-2019, 22:59:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

But this bug is old as the realm itself, i agree it's annoying but some people grew to live with it, it's a bug nontheless.


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Post Posted: 22-09-2019, 00:55:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ionci wrote:
But this bug is old as the realm itself, i agree it's annoying but some people grew to live with it, it's a bug nontheless.


does not mean you should not pay attention, for me, that i´am a player it annoying and i want it to be fixed, also i am a subtlety rogue player, which makes it even more annoying. I want to enjoy my game time here, this is why i want them to fix it.

Update @ 22-09-2019, 01:55:28

Girouette wrote:
It must certainly be due to the distance form the host. I am too from america and i very oftenly experience theese micro freezes inbetween skills, makes playing fast characters more difficult. It happens with all classes, with all specs, but it's only notticeable when you are spamming skills with less than 1s of GCD or with no cast time.

I main mage and i am frustrated with my performance and watching videos from retail i could clearly see that they've got no such stutters and micro lags. Most of the time i play with 180ms aprox, but it always does seem like more and it isn't stable either.


I thought that, but i have a friend in the game from Romania and he also have it

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Post Posted: 09-10-2019, 22:09:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Big problem for dps who has alot haste ,i use same buttons 10 time on ret.wiht 100+% haste .Its crazy, antichet problems or some ...
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Post Posted: 10-10-2019, 13:46:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Can confirm that what Navael said and reported is true .The video shows it and its even harsh for me actually . Sometimes this i will call it " half global cooldown trigger " is triggering for me twice resulting in more than a SECOND loss , and me standing there doing nothing . You can hear the spell sound , you can see the animation but it just triggers another half GCD .FIrst i thought its on my end , lowered all settings to zero basically . tested it on diff internet connection , played with the options . NAh nothing helped .Warrior here btw.
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