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Warrior Protection PvE Guide


1.Introducere

Acesta este un guide PvE al warriorului protection,bazat pe ceea ce am studiat referitor la aceasta clasa si pe experienta pe care am dobandit-o pe ultima perioada.In urmatoarele "mini-capitole" voi incerca sa parcurg tot ceea ce este esential la aceasta clasa si la modul in care trebuie jucata.


2.Stats


In continuare cel mai important stat al unui warrior protection este STAMINA insa,spre deosebire de WOTLK,a aparut un nou stat,Mastery,care e de asemenea excelent ptr un warrior protection,crescandu-ui sansa de Block(este de mentionat faptul ca formula Block-ului este diferita de WOTLK,astfel ca acum Block reduce damage-ul cu 30% iar Critical Block cu 60%,formula veche bazata pe strength si block rating fiind scoasa).Crescand sansa Blockului imbunatatesti atat sansele de supravietuire ale tancului in sine,si ajuti in acelasi timp si healerii care te acompaniaza in diferitele provocari la care vei lua parte. Prioritatile ptr stats-uri sunt acestea:

Stamina>Mastery>Parry>Dodge

De asemenea ptr REFORGE,sfatul meu ptr reforge la stats este urmatorul:

Dodge->Parry
Hit rating/Expertise ->Mastery/Parry
(in functie de stilul de joc)

3.Spec-uri

Spec-urile pot fi diferite,in functie de stilul jucatorului,insa eu am ales acest spec: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LG0MZhZcbGdRRRdbu si in cele ce urmeaza imi voi motiva alegerea.
Fiind primul patch si cum toata lumea bine stie,healerii au mari probleme cu mana,asa ca am preferat un spec care sa le ofere un mic moment de respiro.Asa ca am apelat la https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=84580 (wowhead link) talent tree), https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=16492 (wowhead link) (Fury talent tree) si https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=80129 (wowhead link) (Protection talent tree). Noutatea consta in acel Victory Rush,care poate fi declansat numai cand target-ul este sub 20% HP si cand este folosit Devastate,urmand proc-ul talentului in sine urmat de folosirea abilitatii Victory Rush.Cel putin pana toata lumea se echipeaza,parerea mea personala este ca e un talent care merita,mai ales ca multe scripturi au perioada "critica" spre final.
O alta noutate consta in aparitia talentului https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=29594 (wowhead link) practic inlocuieste acel Defense Cap si face tancul non-critable,fiind un talent crucial ptr orice warrior protection.
Restul talentelor,gen : https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=12958 (wowhead link) , https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=12867 (wowhead link) etc. le-am ales ptr a avea un silence efect/intrerupt si ptr a face agro cu mai multa usurinta.

4.Enchants

In continuare,voi afisa o lista cu enchanturile cele mai bune ptr itemele unui warrior protection:

Helm- http://www.wowhead.com/item=62366
Umeri- http://www.wowhead.com/item=62333
Cloak- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74234 (wowhead link)
Chest- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74251 (wowhead link)
Wrist- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74229 (wowhead link) sau https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=62256 (wowhead link) (in functie de preferinte)
Gloves- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74255 (wowhead link) (motivul ptr care nu am ales un enchant de threat este ca mi se pare suficient de usor de facut threat datorita abilitatii Vengeance)
Waist- http://www.wowhead.com/item=55054
Legs- http://www.wowhead.com/item=56551
Feet- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74238 (wowhead link)

5.Cooldown-uri


Cooldown-urile au fost facute ptr a ajuta tancul in anumite situatii-limita cand toata lumea este coplesita si ptr a ajuta la trecerea momentului cu mai multa usurinta.Cele mai notabile cd-uri sunt:

1).Last Stand( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=12975 (wowhead link) )
2).Shield Wall( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=871 (wowhead link) )
3).Enraged Regeneration ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=55694 (wowhead link) ) --->de mentionat,ca aceasta abilitate este folosita cu maxim succes atunci cand este folosita in combinatie cu Last Stand si un trinket care mareste hp-ul(in situatiile in care exista).
4).Shield Block ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=2565 (wowhead link) ) --->un mic sfat,atunci cand dati cd-ul acesta folositi-va cat mai mult de Shield Slam,deoarece si damage-ul acestei abilitati va creste considerabil.
5).Random trinket use: http://www.wowhead.com/item=68713 , http://www.wowhead.com/item=63742/zabroxs-lucky-tooth etc.

6.Schimbari majore ale unor abilitati/talente,datorate tranzitiei WOTLK->CATACLYSM

1.Vengeance ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=76691 (wowhead link) ) .Aceasta abilitate ofera tancului pe masura ce este atacat tot mai mult atack power,ptr a tine mai bine threatul,dat fiind faptul ca si cifrele de la DPS au crescut considerabil.
2.Vigilance ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=50725 (wowhead link) ). Spre deosebire de WOTLK,nu mai ofera 3% damage reduction pe target si threat transfer ptr tanc,iar acum cand target-ul este atacat,tancul primeste refresh la Taunt si primeste atack power in plus datorita Vengeace-ului.

7.Glyphuri

Prime:
1). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=58364 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Revenge
2). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=58388 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Devaste
3). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=58375 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Shield Slam

Major:
1). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63329 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Shield Wall
2). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63325 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Shockwave
3). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=58098 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Thunder Clap

Minor(mai putin importante):
1). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=58095 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Battle Shout
2). https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=68164 (wowhead link) ->Glyph of Commanding Shout
3). http://www.wowhead.com/item=45794/glyph-of-intimidating-shout ->Glyph of Intimidating Shout

8.Rotatie

Rotatia unui tanc nu este una rigida,insa in cazul warriorul-ui protection este foarte important ca prima abilitate folosita sa fie Thunder Clap
,urmata de 2xDevastate iar mai apoi folosirea combo-ului Shield Block+Shield Slam.In tot acest timp se spameaza si Heroic Strike. Mai jos am sa pun aceasta rotatie intr-o formula mai "matematica":

(Thunder Clap->2xDevastate->Shield Block+Shield Slam->1xDevastate->Revenge,la proc)+Heroic Strike

Ptr extra threat si AOE Damage aveti Shockwave,Revenge,Thunder Clap.

9).Profesii

Din nou,nici la profesii nu este rigiditate,fiecare oferind ceva benefic ptr un tanc,insa cele mai populare sunt:Jewelcrafting(3 sockete de 101 stamina),Mining(120 stamina),Blacksmithing(2 sockete in plus pe wrist si gloves->120 stamina),Enchanting(2*60 stamina pe ringuri=120 stamina).

10).Sfaturi utile

a).Cand va aflati intr-o instanta,ca si tanc aveti datoria de a avea flasks,scrolls si mancare cu stats.
b).Aveti cunostinte minime referitoare la scripturile pe care le veti aborda,ptr ca in functie de voi va merge si restul raidului.
c).Ptr a economisi timp,puneti-va abilitati de baza,gen Taunt sau cooldown-uri defensive pe Key Bindings.Acest lucru ajuta pe toata lumea,nu doar pe voi.

11).Note finale

In primu rand,as dori sa ii multumesc lui k0s,deoarece m-am inspirat putin din guide-ul lui( http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Holy-Paladin-PvE-Guide-t96051.html ) in ceea ce priveste structurarea ideilor.In al doilea rand,as dori sa imi cer scuze ptr eventualele greseli gramaticale,de ortografie etc. deoarece acest guide s-a dovedit mai greu de facut decat credeam.As dori sa imi cer scuze si ptr lucrurile "de finete",cum ar fi cuvintele care trimit la link-uri,care eu nu stiu cum sa le folosesc,fiind prima oara cand postez intr-un asemenea fel pe un forum.Imi cer scuze de asemenea daca este lipsit de estetica acest guide,intrucat am mizat pe eficienta si caracter explicativ si mai putin pe estetica.
Si nu in cele din urma,sper ca acest guide va ajuta toti playerii care vor sa se apuce de Warrior Protection PvE sau pe cei care au nevoie de lamuriri.Accept cu mare placere si interes completarile si sugestiile voastre(in caz ca am uitat ceva) si sper ca v-a facut placere sa cititi acest guide.
Pentru mai multe intrebari, /w Ficatuluman,realmul Evolution.

P.S.: Nu am mai pus liste interminabile cu iteme care le puteti lua si care va ajuta.Ptr mai multe informatii referitoare la acest lucru va recomand cu caldura sa consultati site-ul http://www.maxdps.com .

Va urez "tancat" placut!



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in sfarsit si un guide prot warr
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Post Posted: 29-10-2011, 16:53:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ficatuman wrote:
Prioritatile ptr stats-uri sunt acestea:

Stamina>Mastery>Parry>Dodge


Stii macar ce face Mastery momentan pe server -? Ai putea modifica pentru cum merge Masteryul momentan.

Ficatuman wrote:
[size=24]Gloves- https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=74255 (wowhead link) (motivul ptr care nu am ales un enchant de threat este ca mi se pare suficient de usor de facut threat datorita abilitatii Vengeance)


Momentan cu Mastery nefunctional, Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Armsman este mai bun decat Mastery pe Gloves. Vorbind de enchanturi, mi se pare mai bun Enchant Boots - Major Agility sau Enchant Boots - Assassin's Step decat Mastery pe boots din motivul mentionat mai sus.

Ficatuman wrote:
Ptr extra threat si AOE Damage aveti Shockwave,Revenge,Thunder Clap.


Un mic lucru care l-ai uitat este ca pentru AoE threat, warriorul beneficiaza de un talent, Blood And Thunder (wowhead link), care aplica Rend (wowhead link) tuturor targeturilor din rangeul afectat de Thunder Clap.
O rotatie melee buna ar fi Rend->Thunderclap (Dupa acesta, va fi pus bleedul pe toti targetii afectati) ->( Demo shout / Shockwave / Revenge ) + Cleave

In rest, OK guide. Ar merge un pic formatat -


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Sambu wrote:
Ficatuman wrote:
Prioritatile ptr stats-uri sunt acestea:

Stamina>Mastery>Parry>Dodge


Stii macar ce face Mastery momentan pe server -? Ai putea modifica pentru cum merge Masteryul momentan.

Ficatuman wrote:
[size=24]Gloves- https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=74255 (wowhead link) (motivul ptr care nu am ales un enchant de threat este ca mi se pare suficient de usor de facut threat datorita abilitatii Vengeance)


Momentan cu Mastery nefunctional, Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Armsman este mai bun decat Mastery pe Gloves. Vorbind de enchanturi, mi se pare mai bun Enchant Boots - Major Agility sau Enchant Boots - Assassin's Step decat Mastery pe boots din motivul mentionat mai sus.

Ficatuman wrote:
Ptr extra threat si AOE Damage aveti Shockwave,Revenge,Thunder Clap.


Un mic lucru care l-ai uitat este ca pentru AoE threat, warriorul beneficiaza de un talent, Blood And Thunder (wowhead link), care aplica Rend (wowhead link) tuturor targeturilor din rangeul afectat de Thunder Clap.
O rotatie melee buna ar fi Rend->Thunderclap (Dupa acesta, va fi pus bleedul pe toti targetii afectati) ->( Demo shout / Shockwave / Revenge ) + Cleave

In rest, OK guide. Ar merge un pic formatat -



Si vine intrebarea mea care te va bloca:crezi ca block rating-ul va fi buguit la infinit si ca era mai bine sa fac un guide ptr ceva buguit?Sau crezi ca dupa aceea aveam chef iar sa stau sa modific toate chestiile astea dupa ce se repara?Am postat Warrior Protection PVE Guide(ceea ce implica cum se joaca un warrior in general) nu Warrior Freakz Protection PvE Guide.Si rotatia ta cu Demo shout sincer nu am auzit in viata mea sa fie folosita si nici nu ii vad eficienta.Dar de dragul carcotasilor,am sa o incerc si apoi am sa revin sa spun cat de inutil mi se pare ptr ca adaugi 100 de mii de lucruri care iti complica viata si cu care obtii exact acelasi rezultat.

Si inca 2 completari referitor la ce ai spus:
1).pare-mi-se(nu sunt 100% sigur) la warrior, agility pe cataclysm nu mai da dodge(daca asta urmareai cu enchanturile alea)
2).Incepeti tu rotatia cu Rend pe un target cand ai in raid playeri cu burst de 30-40k si care mai sunt si nerabdatori sa inceapa.Nu va fi chiar frumos.


LE:Au trecut 2 zile de la postul tau si s-a reparat block-ul.Deci ignorati spusele individului si mergeti pe ce am spus eu.

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Schimba si tu albastrul ala de la fiecare categorie ca ma ''doare ochii'' si nici nu prea se intelege.
In rest ce pot sa spun,mai poti retusa pe aici pe colo dar e bine.

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Foarte Bun zic eu de abia astept sa pun in practica pentru ca si asa am un warr si de cand ma stiu numai furry o sa incerc protection sa vad cat de bine ma descurc.
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de mult imi doresc un warr prot dar nu stiam cam ce ii trebuie.Multumesc de ghid!


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Ptr ala care il "doare" ochii=> nu imi pasa iar ptr restul =>cu placere.
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