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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 20:45:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

backstab merge bine.
Vine vreun trist care isi ia bataie si e frustrat sa faca pe aici scandal.


 
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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 21:02:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

joker0 wrote:
backstab merge bine.


Si ce dovada ai tu "men" ca merge bine? Asa proaste cum sunt calculele mele (dupa cum zic altii) , v-am adus si calcule facute de altii pe blizz, iar voi veniti cu citate de genul "merge bine" . Daca omu ala dadea cu arme t1, ~ 5k agil, ~ 10k+ ap, pe dummy de 13k armura cu 70% arp cate 7.1k max hit noncrit, unde sunt gresite calculele mele, cand mie imi da 7800 pe 0 armor?

Sa va zic dc se cunoate dmg? Chiar daca este diferenta doar de 2,3k? La crit e din start 6k , iar cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=14135 (wowhead link) devinde destul de mult.

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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 21:14:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

procentul acela de 200% weapon dmg si numerele alea din formula de calcul (345 * 200 / 100) sunt variabile.Adica sunt modificate de anumiti factori.Nu stiu care sunt aceea dar cu siguranta exista.

Uite o chestie interesanta pe tema asta: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3047934823

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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 22:01:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

backstabu merge bn ... alceva ii influenteaza dmgu ... variaza foarte mult cateodata dai 3k-4k(non-crit) si deodata 10-15k(crit) pe vreo 20k armura si 3k resil ... si inca ceva pe patchu urmator se scade mult dmg de la backstab ... si daia s-ar putea sa fii calculat gresit


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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 22:21:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

alexove wrote:
backstabu merge bn ...

Pe ce te bazezi cand zici asta?

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si inca ceva pe patchu urmator se scade mult dmg de la backstab ... si daia s-ar putea sa fii calculat gresit


E pe dracu. Asta de unde ai scos-o? Surprise

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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 22:42:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Whysomadbro wrote:
alexove wrote:
backstabu merge bn ...

Pe ce te bazezi cand zici asta?

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si inca ceva pe patchu urmator se scade mult dmg de la backstab ... si daia s-ar putea sa fii calculat gresit


E pe dracu. Asta de unde ai scos-o? Surprise


de fapt pe 4.1 Subtlety damage e increased

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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 22:50:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

roxie wrote:
De fapt pe 4.1 Subtlety damage e increased


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes/4-1-0

Arata si mie sa vad asta.

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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 23:05:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

heh, am gresit era patch 4.2 nvm o dam in offtopic
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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 23:09:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

roxie wrote:
heh, am gresit era patch 4.2 nvm o dam in offtopic


De fapt nici in patch 4.2 nu se schimba nimic
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes/4-2

Anyway, daca are cineva alte calcule decat cele facute de mine, sa vina sa vedem unde poate fi problema, daca nu.... nu.

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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 23:35:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Serios ? Chiar te plangi ? OMG.

la fel ca si http://imageshack.us/f/267/wowscrnshot110611140212.jpg/ merge bine backstab.

Referitor la ce ai zis tu mai sus acum, singura modificare MAJORA pentru backstab este minunatul trinket buguit care il stim cu totii. Mie imi modifica damage-ul cu pana la 10k.




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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 00:30:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Whysomadbro wrote:
roxie wrote:
heh, am gresit era patch 4.2 nvm o dam in offtopic


De fapt nici in patch 4.2 nu se schimba nimic
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes/4-2

Anyway, daca are cineva alte calcule decat cele facute de mine, sa vina sa vedem unde poate fi problema, daca nu.... nu.


https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53 (wowhead link) (rofl pun link dp wowhead si mi-l arata pe cel dp freakz.So press wowhead link)

Sub tooltip ai un buton pe care poti sa il misti sa vezi modificarile ptr fiecare level in parte.La level 85 intradevar pleaca de la 200% weapon dmg + (345 * 200 / 100) => ca tooltipu de pe freakz nu e de lvl 85


DAR CITESTE CE FACE https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31220 :

increases the percentage damage bonus of Backstab and Hemorrhage by an additional 40%.

Edit: In final trebuie sa ajungi la 364% weapon dmg + 1634.Asa trebuie sa fie pe patchu in care suntem noi.In fiecare forum in care se discuta de backstab spune acelasi lucru. Ca pleaca de la 200% si merge la 364% + 1634 (in patchu in care suntem noi pentru ca mai tarziu o sa fie 364% weapon damage + 4572)

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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 00:53:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Baiatule tu vezi ce scrie in tooltipul de pe freakz? 110% wepp dmg + 40% din spell pasiv vine 150%, eu am calculat cu 200%.

Si chiar asa poftim calcul cu 240% sa vezi ca si in conditiile astea da prea mult:

240% din 2680 = 7100

7100 + 7100 * 30 / 100 = 9200

Deci ca sa vezi ca nici in felul asta nu da cat trebuie, eu ma apropii de 11k. Asa ca te rog frumos , posteaza CALCULE, care sa iti sustina ceea ce spui, sau nu te mai baga unde esti depasit.

PS: Acum am citit la ce ai dat edit, gandesti cand scrii sau faci misto de mine?

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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 01:14:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tipu a calculat bine si screenshotu pus de rogu meu care nu are nici un enchant sau altcv care sa ii influenteze damageul si tot da 21k backstab spune tot.

Posturi unite automat, 19-11-2011, 01:01:28

Whysomadbro wrote:
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Baiatule tu vezi ce scrie in tooltipul de pe freakz? 110% wepp dmg + 40% din spell pasiv vine 150%, eu am calculat cu 200%.

Si chiar asa poftim calcul cu 240% sa vezi ca si in conditiile astea da prea mult:

240% din 2680 = 7100

7100 + 7100 * 30 / 100 = 9200

Deci ca sa vezi ca nici in felul asta nu da cat trebuie, eu ma apropii de 11k. Asa ca te rog frumos , posteaza CALCULE, care sa iti sustina ceea ce spui, sau nu te mai baga unde esti depasit.

PS: Acum am citit la ce ai dat edit, gandesti cand scrii sau faci misto de mine?


Calculeaza si cu statsurile de la rogul meu ca vad ca unii nu inteleg bine sa le dai 2 dovezi.

Posturi unite automat, 19-11-2011, 01:01:53

e screenshotu pe pagina 1

Posturi unite automat, 19-11-2011, 01:14:47

Haideti sa va arat o chestie smechera

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53 200% wd
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31220&&name=sinister-calling 240% wd

Si cat da defapt backstabu la rogue




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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 01:27:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Singurul lucru care se scaleaza direct cu wep dmg este https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31220&&name=sinister-calling.
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=14135&&name=lethality tine cont doar de critical dmg.
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=79141&&name=opportunity se calculeaza cum l-am calculat eu.

Deci aparent problema este ca spell are din start alta formula decat cea normala, acel 360% nu are de unde venii.

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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 01:53:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pe langa ce v-am aratat mai sus mai e un lucru care face rogu meu sa dea un critical extrem de nesimtit la care nici nu am ce comenta. Sper sa il gasiti voi eu sunt putin obosit.



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Am mai calculat cv.
Statsurile sunt in pozele de le-am postat mai sus.

Nu am nici un enchant pe arme sau trinket ssa imi mareasca weapon damage

Backstab la talentele care le am este 240% WD + 1634


Criticalu cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=14135&&name=lethality este *2.3

1883 (WD) * 2.4 + 1634 = 6718 * 1.3(talentu de 30% dmg bonus) = 7999
Critical 18398


Eu am dat peste 24k in screenshotu asta. Damageul maxim care ar fi fost normal sa il dau este 18398. Cauza e ca in loc de 240% WD la noi pe server e 364 WD


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