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Do you like the custom added guards in Orgrimmar and Stormwind?
Yes, i love playing World of Lovecraft!
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No, i can actually take care of my self.
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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 04:34:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Abandon this topic all ye who don't understand sarcasm.

So i was just wasting my time running around Stormwind today, and i noticed how theres a ton of new Guards around the town. I'm all for being safe and stuff, so I was like "yay, safe in my own City once again". Thank God the server has such nice ideas to protect us from Hordes ganking us in our own cities, when Blizzard couldn't figure something out for us to toggle off our PvP when we don't want to PvP or make players non-attackable unless they engage in combat first in their own zones. Pfff, how dumb of Blizzard, right? I think Orgrimmar has something like this as well actually, thats why I'm not going there anymore, world PvP, pfff, whats that...

Anyway, i was so happy with this new Guard patrol we got in Stormwind, that i made my way towards the Kings Castle to thank him in person. And my oh my, was i surprised when i got there. Our Lord and savior Varian Wrynn got him self a dozen ( twelve, for those of you who can't count) of those Guards as well. Just to be safe. TWELVE, 1, 2, 3, 4..... 12! Equipped with a 500% damage increase buff, and Usain Bolt speed of 150% movement speed, just in case some demented Horde player decides to try and get an Achievement for killing our beloved king. And, don't worry fellow travelers, if by some miracle someone kills one of them, an other one will be there to replace him in 6 minutes time. We're so lucky, they don't even have this on the servers where you pay to play.

Well, these new reinforcements are amazing, i bet the king dispatched more of them in other Capitals, so i go to see our allies Dwarfs in Ironforge. When i talked to the folk there to see where their guards were, they had no clue what i was talking about. Apparently our Dwarf, Night Elf and other friends don't deserve to have their leaders protected or their folk. Well, suck not to be human, hah!

But this idea got me thinking that this just might be the best thing that ever happen to Azeroth. If we could have guards like these all over the world we could stop the ever going war between Alliance and Horde once and for all. We could put guys like these in Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, Alterac Valley...hell...every battleground where there was ever a drop of blood dropped, we could get one of these guys to guard it, so none would ever think about trying to attack a fellow player of the opposing faction. World peace would finally be achieved, just as Ghandi imagined, and we could stop playing World of WARCraft, and start enjoying World of Lovecraft.

Bah, go even further. Why would we have to kill those bosses week in week out. We could just send some of these buffed up knights in not so shiny armor to take care of them for us. In fact, could we get some of them in duel zones to duel instead of us as well? Maybe one or two in arenas, just in case someone decides to PvP? Watch out Deathwing, Stormwind and Orgrimmar City Guards are coming for you, while we hug and kiss with our Horde friends in the middle of Twin Peaks <3 <3 <3.


Seriously now, custom bull shit like this is doing more harm then good to this server. You are preventing normal gameplay. Achievements can't be earned, world PvP is non existent, and maybe just this could be the cause to the core leaks for all we know. Spawning 250 guards all around the place, for what?
Theres a built in mechanic in the game, it's called "PvP toggle". Not only that, you should not be attackable in non-contested zones unless you turn it on. Do you know how much world PvP goes on outside of Capitals? Practically non! This is a realm with a 1,5k population at maximum!

Give players an option to chose if they want to fight others in Cities or not. Don't force stuff down our throats.

Heres just a few achievements that can't be earned because of the custom City Guards: City Defender, Wrath of the Alliance, Wrath of the Horde, Death to the Warchief, Storming Stormwind, City Attacker...

If you think this is a way of fixing world PvP you are oh so wrong. There is no world PvP going on outside of Capitals and at this moment, not even there. Why have PvP always turned on at all if you're going to put guards that one shot you anyway? Make the things how they're supposed to be, like they are on Retail. PvP toggle on/off.


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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 04:43:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Clearly too late now to read all your post(perhaps I'll read it tomorrow), but I more than sure what you mean.

"Oh so blizzlike, enraged guards bla-bla". Would you rather have the massive enormous incredibly huge lag caused by Faction vs Opposite Faction's Capital raids? If so, we can disable the enrage and fully enjoy the lag.

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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 04:54:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

So you're saying the server is so bad it can't handle lets say 100 people in the same city? Why exactly is the server not lagging then when we have 100 people of the same faction lets say in Stormwind, because theres that amount of people in it every day and i don't notice us having huge lags out of nowhere?

I remember us raiding orgrimmar with 3 groups of 40 people back in 4.0.6 here on Freakz, for 2 hours. There was no lag, no one complained about it on global or anything. That was about a year ago or more. Did the server hardware downgrade since then?

Huge faction wars...yeah sure...you try making up 2 group of 40 people and see how long it would take...scale of the battle could get up to 200 people max...and I'm sure the server can handle it. Sorry, but I'm calling bullshit on this one.


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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 05:04:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What you're calling on this is not what we're interested into. Genesis' last weeks have been horrible with tons of ally/horde groups raiding throughout org/sw, and the lag is inexplicably huge. We're calling the decent use of this server from ~2k (Genesis), ~1-1.2k(Exodus) players over the enjoyment of 40. (at least for now, when the server clearly cannot handle this)

Although, as Exodus' population is reasonably lower than Genesis', I will discuss with Shocker either if it possible to disable the enrage there or not and see what happens.

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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 11:03:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@Zohl - I'm not sure has anyone told you this before, but Genesis is a hell of a lot different than Exodus, not just in terms of numbers, but in whole realm mentality. Genesis likes to invade capital cities, Exodus doesn't that much, Genesis likes to donate a lot, Exodus, not that much, etc. etc.

'Few months ago while the "BB King" achievement was active, I tried doing that, and as a healer I died twice trying to do it in Stormwind. I can bet none of the healers like to die outside a BG/Raid (or even inside of those). At the end I had to pay someone to make me a damned Invisibility potion so I can die again by the guards' hands after I finished the achievement. Wasn't fun and it was supposed to be FYI.



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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 15:04:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

There is this thing where a people in a raid spreaded across the world (of warcraft) get this huge FPS drops once someone engages in combat, at least the last time I tried some world PvP it was like this (it's like this even in DS). Now, until that gets fixed I just don't see how could I get any enjoyment of world PvP.
Is it a software problem or a hardware one, I guess that's the question and yet if it's just a hardware problem then maybe some of those donations should be spent in the right direction?




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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 16:14:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Incarnate wrote:
maybe some of those donations should be spent in the right direction?


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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 16:41:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Incarnate wrote:
maybe some of those donations should be spent in the right direction?


Thank you for talking about this Sterix.
Because as we can see,Genesis realm is still green in the realm selection page even with 2k+ while Exodus is Yellow with 1k ,which means with all those Gurths around there is no hardware upgrade for it.



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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 18:01:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ds loot is also sooo "blizzlike".
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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 19:23:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Needlegunxz wrote:
ds loot is also sooo "blizzlike".


loot would be good...if we could equip rings on all 10 fingers of our hands


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Post Posted: 03-02-2014, 22:15:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mofu, i respect your topic and the whole point, but its just pointless, u wont change anything about this. Idk how many times i simply Q.Q'd on forums and ingame about this kind of things and nothing changed really. It just they dont care what we think, its about however they want to be it will be.
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Post Posted: 04-02-2014, 00:56:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Well I'll always state my mind and keep trying to suggest things that i think could improve overall enjoyment for the whole server. If you look trough my previous topics, i was never disrespectful in them before now, if you can call this disrespectful. I always try to state what i think is wrong with the server and try to suggest a valid way how it could be fixed. I never go on whining and qq'ing as most of these topics around "Suggestions" because i can imagine that its annoying for the Staff to see.

But i was just having fun yesterday around Stormwind and i noticed that this really is a gameplay changer in a huge amount. And theres to much others stuff like this being done in other aspects of the game.

About them not listening, not caring, or whatever...well...I'll see how far that can go. Obviously a lot of old players are leaving this server because of it, and not a lot of new players are joining. I certainly think they're doing a lot of stuff wrong in terms of promoting the server, getting new players, and satisfying the current ones.

If it doesn't change I will probably stop trying to help them out with my "advices" and just move to a different server that actually does stuff better but maybe doesn't have the population they do, and probably bring a nice group of people with me. I'm sure they would appreciate any population boost.


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Post Posted: 04-02-2014, 04:20:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Done.
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