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BucovinA

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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 18:45:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Va salut,

Acum cateva zile am inceput sa am probleme cu minunatul meu laptop, mai exact nu vrea sa intre sub nicio forma in BIOS, nu ma lasa sa fac BOOT de pe USB sau DVD, si imi apare asta la eroare cand boot-ul spre Windows incepe :

efi/microsoft/boot/memtest.efi

Am incercat toate combinatiile de butoane pentru a reusi sa intru in BIOS.
La mine, este F2, chiar scrie in faza initiala a pornirii, arata ca a luat comanda si ca intra in BIOS, apoi sare direct la BOOT.
Am citit pe net, si vad ca este destul de populara problema asta, insa altii nu aveau BIOS-ul blocat.

Am incercat si faza cu QUICK BOOT, insa nimic.
Am mers pana la faza de scoatere a bateriei Bios ca poate il reseteaza si isi revine. Nimic.

Help, am mare nevoie de laptop zilele astea.



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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 19:01:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Scoate memoria și șterge-i contactele cu alcool izopropilic (în lipsã, merge și cu ceva diluant, dar sã nu fie de tip nitro), dupã care o pui înapoi.
E posibil și sã fie defectã, ar trebui verificatã pe alt laptop compatibil.


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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 19:21:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

+1 dark

Mai mult ca sigur e hardware isue. Nu ai vreun center unde sa te duci cu el sa se uite la el? Poate fi si de la vreo periferica, inclusiv keyboard-ul


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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 19:23:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am scos si bateria BIOS, cea de pe placa de baza. Laptopul este un ACER V5-531.

Sa ii scot memoria RAM si sa o sterg cu alcool izopropilic?



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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 19:24:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BucovinA wrote:
Am scos si bateria BIOS, cea de pe placa de baza. Laptopul este un ACER V5-531.

Sa ii scot memoria RAM si sa o sterg cu alcool izopropilic?


Da. Le poti pune pe alt laptop sa le testezi daca merg pe acela? Sau sa pui altele in schimb sa vezi daca iti merge tie Acer-ul?


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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 19:37:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tastatura merge fara probleme. E probata. Hard-ul este OK, am inteles ca ar fi o problema windows 8. Inainte de asta am avut windows 8, apoi am revenit la 7. Am inteles ca windows 8 are un propriu soft ce match-uieste bios-ul.

Componentele sunt functionale, altfel nu se aprindea. ( mai ales RAM)
Problema mea cea mai mare este ca nu mai lasa sa intru in bios.



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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 19:49:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hmm. Poate ai fast boot enable, si nu te lasa sa intrii in Bios. Apasa pe F2 si tine-l apasat inainte sa il aprinzi, aprinde-l si tine incontinuare apasat

Edit1: Daca e problema pe care o sustii tu -> Adica W8 ar fi corupt anumite fisiere, singura solutie ar fi din windows, dar tu nu ajungi la acel proces pentru ca path-ul e defect

"This is an artifact of your BIOS is treating Hibernation (S4) Boot and Normal Boot (S5) differently in regards with access to the BIOS menus. The default in Windows 8 for shutdown is a Hybrid Boot (which appears to the firmware as a Hibernation)......"


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OpTIXy wrote:
Hmm. Poate ai fast boot enable, si nu te lasa sa intrii in Bios. Apasa pe F2 si tine-l apasat inainte sa il aprinzi, aprinde-l si tine incontinuare apasat

Edit1: Daca e problema pe care o sustii tu -> Adica W8 ar fi corupt anumite fisiere, singura solutie ar fi din windows, dar tu nu ajungi la acel proces pentru ca path-ul e defect

"This is an artifact of your BIOS is treating Hibernation (S4) Boot and Normal Boot (S5) differently in regards with access to the BIOS menus. The default in Windows 8 for shutdown is a Hybrid Boot (which appears to the firmware as a Hibernation)......"


Nu functioneaza.



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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 20:00:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Singura idee care imi vine in cap e sa scoti HDD -> mount pe alt sistem -> debuf - format - reinstal OS pe el -> pus iar pe Acer laptop -> boot Windows -> si de acolo vezi cum ajungi in Bios :/


P.S. Sa vedem ce zice dark, poate stie el ceva "mesterie"


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OpTIXy wrote:
Singura idee care imi vine in cap e sa scoti HDD -> mount pe alt sistem -> debuf - format - reinstal OS pe el -> pus iar pe Acer laptop -> boot Windows -> si de acolo vezi cum ajungi in Bios :/


P.S. Sa vedem ce zice dark, poate stie el ceva "mesterie"


Buna idee, danke. Revin cu post dupa ce termin si cu asta, dar maine mai mult ca sigur. -



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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 20:43:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da, se poate face o probã fãrã HDD, sã vezi dacã pornește și poți accesa BIOS-ul. Mai sus am zis de memorie deoarece și BIOS-ul tot în RAM ruleazã (mai exact, rutinele din ROM încarcã datele din CMOS în RAM), iar dacã în zona rezervatã pentru low level access (uzual dupã primii 16 bytes, începînd cu FFFF:0000) existã celule defecte, BIOS-ul nu poate rula.

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Post Posted: 18-02-2015, 21:01:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

darkzone wrote:
Da, se poate face o probã fãrã HDD, sã vezi dacã pornește și poți accesa BIOS-ul. Mai sus am zis de memorie deoarece și BIOS-ul tot în RAM ruleazã (mai exact, rutinele din ROM încarcã datele din CMOS în RAM), iar dacã în zona rezervatã pentru low level access (uzual dupã primii 16 bytes, începînd cu FFFF:0000) existã celule defecte, BIOS-ul nu poate rula.


Eu inteleg ce zici tu, dar nu stiu daca el o face, hehe.

Oricum el a prins "2 iepuri negri in aceeasi palarie".

Pe net gasesti despre fiecare separat, niciodata impreuna:
1.) Windows Corupt / Sau PathFile e dus -> Deci ar trebui recovery/reinstal
2.) Bios e incorect setat probabil datorita update-ului "impartial/incorect" pe care l-a facut la 8 (arhicunoscuta problema cu Cold/Warm startup)

Le pui cap la cap... Si te-ai blocat


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Post Posted: 21-02-2015, 11:24:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am rezolvat. A fost intreaga aventura sa reusesc sa ajung la hard, laptop-ul fiind din categoria celor slim era destul de inghesuit pe acolo.
Am scos hardul, l-am conectat la un alt laptop, am instalat windows 8.1 direct din bios-ul celuilalt laptop, am pus inapoi hardul, si ...SURPRIZA! Merge. Insa tot nu intra in bios. Ceva idei pentru a rezolva Bios-ul meu?


Am descarcat driver-ul pt update la bios de pe site-ul Acer, insa imi da eroare la instalare.



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Post Posted: 21-02-2015, 11:34:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Decupleazã-l de la prizã, scoate bateria apoi ține apãsat pe butonul ”Power” timp de 40 de secunde, asta ar trebui sã reseteze BIOS-ul la valorile default. Dacã nici așa nu vrea, atunci e posibil ca BIOS-ul actual sã fie corupt (probabil 1 bit scris greșit pe undeva sau o celulã de memorie defectã în ROM) și e nevoie de o intervenție într-un service autorizat (de exemplu, Sama Bit).

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Post Posted: 21-02-2015, 11:36:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok. Deci 1 din probleme e rezolvata, si aparent aveam dreptate.

Trecem la problema numarul 2. Te rog sa vezi daca ceva de aici te ajuta:



Ai 2 filme si ceva pasi de urmat

Daca nu pleaca nici dupa ce urmezi pasii lui dark, atunci... - te duci la service cu el probabil


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