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Post Posted: 19-07-2015, 17:25:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The last topic was full of BS posts, and Shocker himself said he wouldn't read all 4 pages of drama, so I decided to remake the topic, with all information.
Please refrain yourself from posting bullshit again.
vlayboy wrote:
WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=108283&&name=echo-of-the-elements
Bug description: Echo of the Elements has a current ICD of 1 second in PvE , the correct global cooldown is 0.1 second , due to this all the specs suffer from massive dps loss making the talent useless in pve at least . Please set it back to 0.1 or remove the ICD untill you find a proper fix because butchering the talent is not a solution ( i tested in raid and im loosing 20k dps on single target )
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We don’t frequently use tiny ICDs like that, but it solves problems in a few cases. Static Shock and Flametongue have no ICD at all. We mentioned Echo of the Elements having a short ICD before, and yes, it is also 0.1sec

http://enhsim.codeplex.com/workitem/9519

Also, Echoes of Weapon Enchants have no ICD.
Erudax wrote:
Tested with Rageless, 320 Lightning Bolt casts (God bless haste buff), and no x3 casts, just double from Echo.
As far as I know, each Echo should benefit from Mastery (for example if I have 50%, then there should be a 50% chance for the Echo to Overload.) Now can Overloads echo? Yes, with the basic chance from Echo of the Elements (6%).
And yes, it should have a 0.1 ICD instead of 1 second.

This is for Elemental Shamans.
All of these however have downsides (on Elemental), lemme explain what that 0.1 ICD does:
1. Prevents Overloads from overloading themselves, same for echoes.
2. Echoes of Overloads cannot overload.
3. Overloads of Echoes cannot echo.
EXCEPTIONS:
1. Fullmination cannot Echo
2. Lightning Shield cannot Echo.

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https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-5126927.html





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Post Posted: 19-07-2015, 18:28:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Skull mentioned this in one of his posts also , that he noticed a huge fall in damage and spell order changed due to the 1 second ICD

So please find a solution to make it 0.1 or remove the icd in PvE , Blizzard set it to 0.1 second for a reason



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Post Posted: 20-07-2015, 11:25:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I removed the PvP cooldown until I properly implement the 0.x cooldowns

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Post Posted: 20-07-2015, 13:52:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker wrote:
I removed the PvP cooldown until I properly implement the 0.x cooldowns


I hope you just mistyped pvp instead of pve ...




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Post Posted: 20-07-2015, 13:57:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shodan wrote:
Shocker wrote:
I removed the PvP cooldown until I properly implement the 0.x cooldowns


I hope you just mistyped pvp instead of pve ...



First of thank you for understanding the issue.

What Shodan said , if you removed the PvP one people will complain again @Shocker , the PvP one is a stable 4 seconds so theres no need to remove it , the issue is from PvE being 1 sec instead of 0.1 , i guess you were tired



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Post Posted: 20-07-2015, 15:36:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Sorry I got confused, removed the PvE cooldown and left the PvP 4 cooldown like it was before

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Post Posted: 09-09-2015, 16:04:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker wrote:
Sorry I got confused, removed the PvE cooldown and left the PvP 4 cooldown like it was before


De ce ai facut 4 secunde in pvp daca el trebuie sa aiba 0.1 secunde ICD ? Din cauza asta talentul ala e useless in pvp https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Lightnig-Shield-VS-Echo-of-Elements-t384612.html .



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Post Posted: 09-09-2015, 16:24:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

bossutai wrote:
Shocker wrote:
Sorry I got confused, removed the PvE cooldown and left the PvP 4 cooldown like it was before


De ce ai facut 4 secunde in pvp daca el trebuie sa aiba 0.1 secunde ICD ? Din cauza asta talentul ala e useless in pvp https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Lightnig-Shield-VS-Echo-of-Elements-t384612.html .


in pvp trebuie sa fie 4 sec. http://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_5.4.0

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Post Posted: 10-09-2015, 09:13:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Echo are intradevar 4 sec ICD in PvP conform 5.4 patch notes. Problema e ca eu nu inteleg ceva. Unele clase au formule de < 5.4 (adica 5.1, 5.2, 5.3) si altele au formulele de 5.4. Daca e asa, ar fi fairplay sa punem 0.1 ICD la echo ... Dosent Matter

Problema mai grava nu e la echo ci la elemental shield. Aparent nimeni nu baga in seama postul https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Lightnig-Shield-VS-Echo-of-Elements-t384612.html asa ca ce rost mai are ? Fratilor e asa greu sa dai confirm la un bug ? Aveti dovezi, aveti demo, aveti tot. Ce dureaza atat ?

@ madau . Mai asteptam mult ? Iar nu intelegi bugul ? Vine acum tatashocker si zice ca ne bate wow-ul pe noi dar nu se uita la GM's care .. nu mai zic nimic. Stiti voi mai bine.

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Post Posted: 11-09-2015, 13:12:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

NoNameGlad wrote:
Unele clase au formule de < 5.4 (adica 5.1, 5.2, 5.3)
Nu, nu au, nu mai induce lumea in eroare


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