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Post Posted: 14-11-2015, 20:49:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Incap in alea un GTX 970 cu 2 sau 3 ventilatoare? Nu de alta, dar lungimea nu pare sa fie mai mare ca la http://www.pcgarage.ro/carcase/raidmax/super-altas-black/ asta care o am eu. Mie unul mi-ar trebui o carcasa descrisa mai sus de mine, dar in care sa incapa si un GTX 970 cu 2 sau 3 ventilatoare, iar GPU ii cam 28-32 cm.


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Post Posted: 14-11-2015, 21:18:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

In acele carcase zalman incap placi video de 36 cm lungime. Cage-ul pt hdd-uri nu este de sus pana jos ca la Raidmax. Sunt 2 custi pt hdd-uri: una sus pt dvd-rw si una jos pt hdd si ssd. La mijloc este un spatiu gol pt a incapea placi video lungi pana la 36 cm.

Un gtx 970 cu 2 ventilatoare incape fara probleme in carcasa ta. Trebuie sa masori sa vezi daca ai 31 cm din spatele carcasei pana la cusca pt hdd pentru a vedea daca incape gtx-ul 970 cu 3 ventilatoare de la Gigabyte.



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Post Posted: 15-11-2015, 09:04:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu o sa fie cam la limita? Nu o sa afecteze daca incape la limita? Ii cam ciudat, ca lungimea la carcasa mea ii mai mare decat la carcasele care le-ai postat. Ii cumva cage-ul din interior mai mic? Ca numai asa se poate explica. Ti-am trimis o poza cu interiorul carcasei sa vezi, dimensiunea acolo ii cam 26-27 cm pana la cage.


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Post Posted: 15-11-2015, 09:29:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Uite cum este interiorul carcaselor Zalman. Cage-ul pt hdd este impartit in 2, lasand un spatiu gol la jumatea carcasei pt a intra placi video lungi pana la 36 cm.


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Post Posted: 15-11-2015, 10:07:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Banuiesc ca al 3-lea ventilator care o sa fie deasupra HDD-ului, nu o sa afecteze cand caldura o sa bata pe el, nu?


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Post Posted: 15-11-2015, 12:57:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu afecteaza cu nimic. Are ventilator in fata care baga aer rece in carcasa.


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Post Posted: 16-11-2015, 10:28:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

O sa caut sa vad daca sunt carcase cu design mai interesant. Deci singurele carcase in care incap placi cu pana la 32 cm sunt cele care au interior de genul ala, nu?


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Post Posted: 17-11-2015, 11:45:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Deci o mica recapitulare, sa inteleg mai bine totul:
1. Diferenta dintre placa video cu 1, 2 sau 3 coolere care este? Temperatura creste mai rapid, la aia cu mai putine ventilatoare am nevoie de racire mai buna (vreo 2-3 ventilatoare externe), OC-ul ii mai slab?
2. Carcasele de tipul http://www.zalman.com/images/productinfo/z3/Z3_series_25.jpg , deci in astea intra placi si cu 32 cm, al 3-lea ventilator cam bate pe zona HDD-ului si SSD-ului vad ca. Asta nu o sa afecteze, nu?
3. Banuiesc ca o carcasa cu 2-3 ventilatoare ii ok chiar si pentru varianta mini a GTX 970, cea cu 1 ventilator?

Si ca era sa uit de placa de baza, Gigabyte GA-h61m-s2pv placa asta ii compatibila cu asta sau asta?



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Post Posted: 17-11-2015, 14:59:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1. Placa video cu 1 ventilator va fi mai calda cu 3-5 grade decat cele cu 2-3 ventilatoare, se va auzi mai tare ventilatorul atunci cand placa e in load (in jocuri) si de obicei nu vine cu OC din fabrica.

2. Nu afecteaza cu nimic.

3. Nu-ti recomand versiunea mini, pentru ca gasesti implementari mai bune in bani mai putin. Placa de baza este compatibila cu orice placa video pe slot pci expres.



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Post Posted: 17-11-2015, 15:09:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tocmai ce intrebasem pe Tom's, mi-au zis ca la partea cu placa de baza, stiind ca nush ce versiune ii mai noua la GPU, iar de la placa de baza ii mai veche, se pot intalni rar niste bottleneck-uri la GPU. Banuiesc ca nu ii problema mare asta.


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Post Posted: 18-11-2015, 17:59:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Placa ta de baza are pci express 2.0, iar Gtx 970 e pe pci express 3.0.
Asta nu e o problema. Doar in cateva jocuri noi vei avea 1—2 fps mai putin.



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Post Posted: 18-11-2015, 20:55:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ah, pai pentru atat nici nu mai dau 200 si cv de lei pentru o noua placa de baza. Daca printr-o reducere la absurd o sa fie probleme mari, atunci. Mersi.


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Post Posted: 18-11-2015, 20:58:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

PCI-E nu te afecteaza, 970 e cam la limita, orice peste este bottlenecked. Diferenta de la 1 vent pana la 3 vent-uri pe placa video poate sa ajunga si la 10-15 fps pentru ca boost 2.0 care este inclus in diver automat, lucreaza in functie de temperatura si capacitatea modelului respectiv deci GPU cu 1 vent, desi intra in boost, nu o sa ajunga la nivelul celei cu 3 chiar daca ruleaza la aceasi temperatura.

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Post Posted: 20-11-2015, 17:17:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Inca un lucru. In momentul asta am 8 GB Ram DDR3 cu frecventa foarte slaba, 665.1 MHz (2 de 4 GB), si un prieten mi-a zis ca ma trage in jos de tot, nu prea se observa, dar ma gandesc ca dupa upgrade ii posibil sa se simta. Mi-a mai sugerat ca ii bine sa am o singura memorie de 8 GB, nu 2 de 4 GB. Oricum, sa trec pe DDR4, desi vad ca ii mai scump, dar viteza poate fi mai mare, sau sa raman de DDR3 si sa cumpar o singura memorie de 8 GB cu frecventa mai mare?


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Post Posted: 20-11-2015, 20:21:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@Paragon. Prietenul tau e la pol diametral opus. Ai 1333mhz frecventa, ce vezi in programe este aproape mereu injumatatit, si nu, nu ai nevoie de nici un upgrade, 2x4 in dual-channel este best combo atat ca viteza cat si timp de access, nu ca diferentele ar fi sesizabile in afara benchmarkurilor tho'.

Daca nu ti-ai luat placa video, sari pe ea.


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