[REJECTED] [Warlock][Affliction] Agony damage after "too big damage" fix... VERY LOW

[Nytrox]

Did you even click on the link I posted?
I showed you a video from retail where you can see that the DAMAGE FORMULA is identical with the one used here.

[Artofshadow]

@Nytrox, ua does more damage than agony (not overall but on the highest crit, as you can see in the ss i posted in the beginning of the post) that's what Crippek meant.

[Nytrox]

That's perfectly normal.The max damage on unstable affliction should be bigger than max damage on agony:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gmMqX8B74DQxKRLw#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=19&&ability=980&&view=events -355k
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gmMqX8B74DQxKRLw#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=19&&ability=30108&&view=events -404.
So,are you still saying that's something wrong?

[Nemoboyz]

The formula for Agony is [324 (+30.6% of Spell Power) * 10] since patch 5.4.1
The formula for Agony from freakz database is not the good one.

[Magnus06]

A solid proof to solve all that would be to bring UA's formula and compare it with the real Agony formula. The first to do that will end the war !

[Nemoboyz]

UA 's formula is 2170 (+203% of Spell Power) over 14 seconds.
For the dispell part the formula is [310 ( +29% of Spell Power ) * 8 .
same, the UA from spell website is getting the wrong Spell Power. But this is a different bug.

[Nytrox]

Nemoboyz wrote:

UA 's formula is 2170 (+203% of Spell Power) over 14 seconds. For the dispell part the formula is [310 ( +29% of Spell Power ) * 8 . same, the UA from spell website is getting the wrong Spell Power. But this is a different bug.

it's not wrong,it just displays the value/tick instead of the full amount.
Edit:I just tested the spell on blizz(the mechanic is the same) and guess what,the tooltip for the total value is wrong.
So,the formula is 43.5456%sp*10.We divide 43.5456 by 12 and we get 3.6288(sp coefficient for each tick).
On our patch it's 324+30.6%,so 27+2.55%sp for each tick.
Let's calculate the first tick for 3839(my sp on wod).
3.6288*3839/100=139.30.....
We multiply it by 2(to get the value of the first tick) and we get 278.61.....
Adding mastery(50.92%)=>420.49.....
Adding versatility(2.57%)=>431.29.....
Value obtained in game-434.
So,if we calculate the total damage dealt by agony for 1000 spellpower and 0 mastery/versatility using the formula for each tick,it will be 3.6288*1000/1000*(2+.....+11+11+11)=2975.
If we check the tooltip,the damage will be 43.5456*1000/100*10=4354,56(which is definetly wrong proved by the screenshot).
So,to conclude,I don't have any idea what blizzard wanted to tell us with that tooltip(except for giving us the posibility to find the base dmg before being multiplicated by stacks),but the same formula used here is also used on retail:
http://imgur.com/vnrrl7G

[Shodan]

Agony ticks : In the screen we can see the first and last tick . Now i'm going to do the math with his stats and calculate the damage of each stack of Agony and at the end you will see the "difference" between the formula and the ingame damage

First tick((324 + (0.306*16726))/12)*2*1.71(mastery) = 1551 First tick ... Error from screen 47
2 : 2326
3 : 3102
4 : 3877
5 : 4653
6 : 5428
7 : 6204
8 : 6979
9 : 7755
10 : 8530 Error from screen 258

So at the end of the day the difference from the formula at 10 stacks is a mere 258 dmg ... WOW !

We done ? Can we T/C now ? Can we stop flaming and accept the fact that it works fine now ? @ Shocker

Or if you have any idea where that error comes from feel free to respond but for ***'s sake stop "confirming" or just flaming cause you got fixed ....



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[Seyrox]

258 damage O.o no no no close fix fix
Close this
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[Nemoboyz]

Nytrox wrote:

Nemoboyz wrote: UA 's formula is 2170 (+203% of Spell Power) over 14 seconds. For the dispell part the formula is [310 ( +29% of Spell Power ) * 8 . same, the UA from spell website is getting the wrong Spell Power. But this is a different bug. it's not wrong,it just displays the value/tick instead of the full amount. Edit:I just tested the spell on blizz(the mechanic is the same) and guess what,the tooltip for the total value is wrong. So,the formula is 43.5456%sp*10.We divide 43.5456 by 12 and we get 3.6288(sp coefficient for each tick). On our patch it's 324+30.6%,so 27+2.55%sp for each tick. Let's calculate the first tick for 3839(my sp on wod). 3.6288*3839/100=139.30..... We multiply it by 2(to get the value of the first tick) and we get 278.61..... Adding mastery(50.92%)=>420.49..... Adding versatility(2.57%)=>431.29..... Value obtained in game-434. So,if we calculate the total damage dealt by agony for 1000 spellpower and 0 mastery/versatility using the formula for each tick,it will be 3.6288*1000/1000*(2+.....+11+11+11)=2975. If we check the tooltip,the damage will be 43.5456*1000/100*10=4354,56(which is definetly wrong proved by the screenshot). So,to conclude,I don't have any idea what blizzard wanted to tell us with that tooltip(except for giving us the posibility to find the base dmg before being multiplicated by stacks),but the same formula used here is also used on retail: http://imgur.com/vnrrl7G

You cannot calculate the formula from WoD here man. It was changed since patch 6.0.1
We are in Mist of Pandaria.

[Nytrox]

Nemoboyz wrote:

Nytrox wrote: Nemoboyz wrote: UA 's formula is 2170 (+203% of Spell Power) over 14 seconds. For the dispell part the formula is [310 ( +29% of Spell Power ) * 8 . same, the UA from spell website is getting the wrong Spell Power. But this is a different bug. it's not wrong,it just displays the value/tick instead of the full amount. Edit:I just tested the spell on blizz(the mechanic is the same) and guess what,the tooltip for the total value is wrong. So,the formula is 43.5456%sp*10.We divide 43.5456 by 12 and we get 3.6288(sp coefficient for each tick). On our patch it's 324+30.6%,so 27+2.55%sp for each tick. Let's calculate the first tick for 3839(my sp on wod). 3.6288*3839/100=139.30..... We multiply it by 2(to get the value of the first tick) and we get 278.61..... Adding mastery(50.92%)=>420.49..... Adding versatility(2.57%)=>431.29..... Value obtained in game-434. So,if we calculate the total damage dealt by agony for 1000 spellpower and 0 mastery/versatility using the formula for each tick,it will be 3.6288*1000/1000*(2+.....+11+11+11)=2975. If we check the tooltip,the damage will be 43.5456*1000/100*10=4354,56(which is definetly wrong proved by the screenshot). So,to conclude,I don't have any idea what blizzard wanted to tell us with that tooltip(except for giving us the posibility to find the base dmg before being multiplicated by stacks),but the same formula used here is also used on retail: http://imgur.com/vnrrl7G You cannot calculate the formula from WoD here man. It was changed since patch 6.0.1 We are in Mist of Pandaria.

Of course you can if the mechanic remained the same.I wanted just to explain you how to calculate the danage even if the numbers are changed.

You told me that tooltip shows a different formula from what we're using here.It also shows a different formula on wowhead than the one it's used in game on retail.

If you still think that I used a formula as sometging else than a parallel between patches please read my post again.

And if you're stll saying that the damage is low,this section of the forum is not for you.

[Nemoboyz]

I think i have found the problem. In the formula above, with my stats (211 sp and 24.80% mastery) ,we have (324+(0.306 *211))/12*2*1.24=80. If that would be the case I should hit for ~ 80 shadow damage.
BUT i deal ~45 damage which means that the approximate formula is (324+(0.306*211))/12*1.1*1.24=44 . As we can see is not 2 its 1.1 ( i don't care about the difference as long as is not the right one) or there is some spell power scale problem. In the video that I've posted you can see the damage I do with each tick. So let's begin:

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Tick    1    2    3    4     5      6      7      8      9     10     11    12  DMG   45   66   88   110   132    154    176    198    220   242    242   242

so first tick is (324+(0.306*211))/12*1.1*1.24=44 (44.05 to be precise)
2) 44+ 1/2 of first tick= 66
3) 66+ 1/2 of first tick= 88
4) 88+ 1/2 of first tick= 110
5) 110+ 1/2 of first tick= 132
6) 132+ 1/2 of first tick= 155
7) 155+ 1/2 of first tick= 177
8) 177+ 1/2 of first tick= 199
9) 199+ 1/2 of first tick= 221
10) 221+ 1/2 of first tick= 243 (here the increase stops)
11) 243
12) 243
the numbers are not exactly as the ones from video because they are rounded.
If we gather the lost numbers from the first tick until the second we see that we lose ~ 264 damage (if i am not mistaken)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DcLXr4PDx44:

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ps:sorry for the awful music in the background
pss: Apologies if i've made some math mistakes.

[Nytrox]

It seems that there's still a small difference,at 22k sp the last tick hit for 200 dmg lower than it should(2%lower).That's irrelevant for me,but shocker may have an answer.

[Nemoboyz]

Imagine the higher your spell power is, the higher is the loss you will have in dps. At least this is my opinion...

[mm00444]

Shodan wrote:

Agony ticks : In the screen we can see the first and last tick . Now i'm going to do the math with his stats and calculate the damage of each stack of Agony and at the end you will see the "difference" between the formula and the ingame damage First tick((324 + (0.306*16726))/12)*2*1.71(mastery) = 1551 First tick ... Error from screen 47 2 : 2326 3 : 3102 4 : 3877 5 : 4653 6 : 5428 7 : 6204 8 : 6979 9 : 7755 10 : 8530 Error from screen 258 So at the end of the day the difference from the formula at 10 stacks is a mere 258 dmg ... WOW ! We done ? Can we T/C now ? Can we stop flaming and accept the fact that it works fine now ? @ Shocker Or if you have any idea where that error comes from feel free to respond but for ***'s sake stop "confirming" or just flaming cause you got fixed ....

why my dmg is very low than you?
why your mastery is 71.64% and my mastery is 57% ?(OMG 14% + mastery is GOD)

i think Verdictus says true . i think you done this dmg with your HC items and tr like this Armory https://armory.freakz.ro/character/genesis/seyrox
and after you changed your items And say at all OMG Agony have BIG DMG

agony is powerful Dot is affliction and 1st Dps in this talent and i think it after decrease Agony,now agony have Very Low Dmg (decrease from 1st dmg in affliction in last fight to 3th dmg in affliction in last fight)