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Post Posted: 01-04-2020, 21:38:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Logs: https://i.imgur.com/PiupGoJ.png
UA Damage: https://i.imgur.com/EU2BBUF.jpg - https://i.imgur.com/ZwyQPme.png - https://i.imgur.com/EX0UcHo.jpg
Agony damage: https://i.imgur.com/BjvZYYH.jpg
Drain soul: https://i.imgur.com/PB1GCdb.jpg
Corruption damage: https://i.imgur.com/n6qmyfL.jpg

Is legit that unstable affliction (and the dots) is/are doing way less damage than the days before? I mean I was doing around 2.5m with UA and now the max damage is 1.5-1.7m (991 ilvl lock)
I would like if you can check this out..



We did some mythis tos bosses yesterday, if you can check this also (for some damage before/after compare):

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yY72cN1MwdFvA4bp/#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=6
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yY72cN1MwdFvA4bp/#fight=15&type=damage-done&source=6
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yY72cN1MwdFvA4bp/#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=6
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yY72cN1MwdFvA4bp/#fight=6&type=damage-done&source=6
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yY72cN1MwdFvA4bp/#fight=4&type=damage-done&source=6

Edit: keep playing tos mythic, max UA damage is now 2M. Yesterday and the other days the damage was 2.5m

Some new proof:

Raids with 4 warlocks (with different ilvl):
https://i.imgur.com/kRqnKq3.png
https://i.imgur.com/Yra3P7W.png

Last night (with 991 ilvl all):
https://i.imgur.com/gE5xgLu.png



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Post Posted: 01-04-2020, 21:42:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I can confirm. 65k intellect- 137 mastery and dont do damage!
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Post Posted: 01-04-2020, 21:51:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i'm also a affliction warlock i noticed this today i have 27% crit and 144% mastery and now i deal no damage ... i just wanna know what happened
i can confirm it too



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Post Posted: 02-04-2020, 00:08:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Some new proof:

Today some raids with 4 warlocks (with different ilvl):
https://i.imgur.com/kRqnKq3.png
https://i.imgur.com/Yra3P7W.png

Last night (with 991 ilvl all):
https://i.imgur.com/gE5xgLu.png

I've read somewhere that the damage was fixed, it is not.
The damage compare to the last night is so low.



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Post Posted: 02-04-2020, 00:12:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

at the moment the class is somewhat unplayable. sometimes i do not exceed 700k dps. fix as soon as possible for pleasure


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Post Posted: 02-04-2020, 11:42:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yea, i noticed that too, besides that, stats doesnt scale right. The spec gets worse every passing day!


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Post Posted: 02-04-2020, 11:49:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirm, dmg is somehow often lower than it was before new patch. Reason? no idea, wrong scaling/sp values

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If you are comparing the dmg from 7.2.5 to 7.3.5, Keep in mind there were some hotfixes to Corruption/Agony/UA dmg. The only thing which i noticed so far is the talent Death's Embrace not working which is already reported.

Here is some proof for the hotfixes.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21025532/hotfixes-december-1

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21365424/hotfixes-june-26



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Post Posted: 02-04-2020, 21:07:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Jasim wrote:
If you are comparing the dmg from 7.2.5 to 7.3.5, Keep in mind there were some hotfixes to Corruption/Agony/UA dmg. The only thing which i noticed so far is the talent Death's Embrace not working which is already reported.

Here is some proof for the hotfixes.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21025532/hotfixes-december-1

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21365424/hotfixes-june-26


https://i.imgur.com/mjqYjim.jpg
(https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NWxCFMwc1jDrPvg6#fight=11&type=damage-done&source=5)

This guy is 980, that's a random log from offy (7.3.5). The max damage of unstable affliction is 2.9m
Here ppl full shopped 991 are doing max 1.5m-2m (you can check it in the previous posts). Also we are not comparing the damage with the previous patch, but 2-3 days ago where the UA damage was fine.



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Have a question to experts -
Wowhead:


Wow-Freakz:


Does this mean the formula is bad? It's 4 times weaker. 370.8 / 92.7 = 4. BTW. This is one confirmed thread about dots (https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warlock-Dots-Damage-t574773.html) but it's locked, so i can not ask there.
/edit2: Now I noticed that 92.7 SP% is taken from "dispell case", should be normally 370.8 SP% :D

//down: Let's check.
Corruption
Wowhead: Corrupts the target, causing (226.8% of Spell power) Shadow damage over 14 sec.
Wow-Freakz: Corrupts the target, causing 0 (+32.4% SP) Shadow damage over 14 seconds.

226.8 / 32.4 = 7 times weaker.

Agony
Wowhead: Inflicts increasing agony on the target, causing up to [(6.75% of Spell power) * 6] Shadow damage over 18 sec. Damage starts low and increases over the duration. Refreshing Agony maintains its current damage level.
Wow-Freakz: Inflicts increasing agony on the target, causing up to 9 (+3.54% SP)*6 Shadow damage over 18 seconds. Damage starts low and increases over the duration. Refreshing Agony maintains its current damage level.

6.75 / 3.54 =~1.9 almost 2 times weaker.

Seed of Corruption
Wowhead: Embeds a demon seed in the enemy target that will explode after 18 sec, dealing (172% of Spell power) Shadow damage to all enemies within 10 yards and applying Corruption to them.
Wow-Freakz: Embeds a demon seed in the enemy target that will explode after 18 seconds, dealing 0 (+172% SP) Shadow damage to all enemies within 10 yards and applying Corruption to them.

Correct -

Drain Soul
Wowhead (7.2.0 last change-log): Drains the target's soul, causing 6 Shadow damage over 6 sec, and healing you for 200% of the damage done.
Wow-Freakz: Drains the target's soul, causing 6 (+120% SP) Shadow damage over 6 seconds, and healing you for 200% of the damage done.

This is more complicated, because:
Wowhead doesn't show % SP; guys in comment section wrote it was 777% on 7.2.0 (last change for this spell); checked internet archive, but nothing on Wowhead - just here (https://web.archive.org/web/20171224095624/https://www.wowdb.com/spells/198590-drain-soul) is information from 24 Dec 2017 - 7.3.0 patch and it's 720% SP. And this 120% SP it's just for Aura/Buff.



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Post Posted: 02-04-2020, 21:57:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Prezes wrote:
Have a question to experts -
Wowhead:
IMG: https://i.imgur.com/CK6pACZ.png


Wow-freakz:
IMG: https://i.imgur.com/1X052va.png

Does this mean the formula is bad? It's 4 weaker. 370.8 / 92.7 = 4. BTW. This is one confirmed thread about dots (https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warlock-Dots-Damage-t574773.html) but it's locked, so i can not ask there.



the damage of agony, corruption and unstable affliction is somewhat embarrassing. today in raid I made 900k DPS less than 3 days ago at first boss of antorus raid. I think I can quit WoW.
R.I.P Warlock Affliction in his best legion patch! -

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Post Posted: 03-04-2020, 11:00:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Already confirmed before this post ..
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warlock-Dots-Damage-t574773.html ;



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Post Posted: 03-04-2020, 13:43:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Apparently some important problems like Ph3no says are under private mode for unknown reasons, so we cant see the progress or its state. -


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Prezes wrote:
Have a question to experts -
Wowhead:


Wow-Freakz:


Does this mean the formula is bad? It's 4 times weaker. 370.8 / 92.7 = 4. BTW. This is one confirmed thread about dots (https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warlock-Dots-Damage-t574773.html) but it's locked, so i can not ask there.
/edit2: Now I noticed that 92.7 SP% is taken from "dispell case", should be normally 370.8 SP% -

//down: Let's check.
Corruption
Wowhead: Corrupts the target, causing (226.8% of Spell power) Shadow damage over 14 sec.
Wow-Freakz: Corrupts the target, causing 0 (+32.4% SP) Shadow damage over 14 seconds.

226.8 / 32.4 = 7 times weaker.

Agony
Wowhead: Inflicts increasing agony on the target, causing up to [(6.75% of Spell power) * 6] Shadow damage over 18 sec. Damage starts low and increases over the duration. Refreshing Agony maintains its current damage level.
Wow-Freakz: Inflicts increasing agony on the target, causing up to 9 (+3.54% SP)*6 Shadow damage over 18 seconds. Damage starts low and increases over the duration. Refreshing Agony maintains its current damage level.

6.75 / 3.54 =~1.9 almost 2 times weaker.

Seed of Corruption
Wowhead: Embeds a demon seed in the enemy target that will explode after 18 sec, dealing (172% of Spell power) Shadow damage to all enemies within 10 yards and applying Corruption to them.
Wow-Freakz: Embeds a demon seed in the enemy target that will explode after 18 seconds, dealing 0 (+172% SP) Shadow damage to all enemies within 10 yards and applying Corruption to them.

Correct -

Drain Soul
Wowhead (7.2.0 last change-log): Drains the target's soul, causing 6 Shadow damage over 6 sec, and healing you for 200% of the damage done.
Wow-Freakz: Drains the target's soul, causing 6 (+120% SP) Shadow damage over 6 seconds, and healing you for 200% of the damage done.

This is more complicated, because:
Wowhead doesn't show % SP; guys in comment section wrote it was 777% on 7.2.0 (last change for this spell); checked internet archive, but nothing on Wowhead - just here (https://web.archive.org/web/20171224095624/https://www.wowdb.com/spells/198590-drain-soul) is information from 24 Dec 2017 - 7.3.0 patch and it's 720% SP. And this 120% SP it's just for Aura/Buff.


The damage coefficient shown in feakzDB, shows the dots dmg per ONE TICK.
All of the dots have been checked multiple times and there is no issue with scaling or stat weigts.

Just as an example.
UA has 4 ticks. 92,7*4=370,8

Please take in mind that in order to do the maximum amount of damage, you need to use simcraft in Legion. You cant just buy a full set of max gear and expect good results, since there is no such thing as a best in slot item.

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