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[FIXED] [Druid][Resto][Balance] Feral Affinity/Guardian Affinity snapshoting exploit

 
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Post Posted: 04-05-2020, 23:29:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=197490&&name=feral-affinity
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=197491&&name=guardian-affinity

Bug description: Biggest culprit would be Feral Affinity. So if you apply bleeds in feral form and then swtich back to your Intellect form that doesnt give you Agility boost. Bleeds will carry on doing same damage they were doing when you were in full burst cat mode.

A lot of druids exploit this in arena atm.

This is linked to previous report by @raven3

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Multiple-Bleeds-and-Poisons-are-snapshotting-t578485.html

I am just providing an example of how exploitable this is.

Freakz demo:

You see me apply bleeds in feral form, and when i switch back to my resto elf form. My bleeds carry on doing full damage.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=seco8icXvho:



Retail Proof:
See his bleed dmg in cat form and out of cat form 5:18
https://youtube.com/watch?v=taGWL-RZ_aI&t=318:




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Post Posted: 05-05-2020, 02:14:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Are you talking about resto druids right? Because the title in the topic is "druid all". As feral you have the same stats in/out cat form, and tiger's fury should increase the bleeds damage for the entire duration.
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Post Posted: 05-05-2020, 02:16:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Iplayferal wrote:
Are you talking about resto druids right? Because the title in the topic is "druid all". As feral you have the same stats in/out cat form, and tiger's fury should increase the bleeds damage for the entire duration.


For feral it is Balance Affinity that is broken. Cuz Moonfire ticks at Intellect of an Owl King form even though you have shifted back to kitty form.

I described Feral Affinity as major one cuz it is most exploitable. Hardly anyone using Balance affinity

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Post Posted: 05-05-2020, 02:18:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

zeakey wrote:
Iplayferal wrote:
Are you talking about resto druids right? Because the title in the topic is "druid all". As feral you have the same stats in/out cat form, and tiger's fury should increase the bleeds damage for the entire duration.


For feral it is Balance Affinity that is broken. Cuz Moonfire ticks at Intellect of an Owl King form even though you have shifted back to kitty form.

I described Feral Affinity as major one cuz it is most exploitable. Hardly anyone using Balance affinity



Wrong.




The problem as you said is with snapshot, as soon as they fix that, this should be fixed as well. And this affects resto druids in arenas good catch.



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Post Posted: 05-05-2020, 02:24:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ye I was wrong about Ballance affinity. Seems like spell power is static on feral. I'll amend that. -
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Post Posted: 08-05-2020, 19:01:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yep a lot of resto druids exploiting that in 7.2.5 too
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Post Posted: 11-05-2020, 14:41:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Thanks for taking your time for reporting this issue.

Leaving aside the current issue with some effects been able to be snapshot-able by some Bleed/Poison effects that should be capable off, as listed above by Zaeky, where more information could be found in the next link: Clicky!, this is a standalone issue with the behaviour of Feral/Guardian affinity, which allow for bleeds to be snapshotted by either Restoration/Balance druids, regardless if they shapeshift out of the respective forms.

Indeed this is an issue where if a Restoration/Balance druid affected by Feral/Guardian affinity will be able to snapshot said affinities benefits and then go back to their usual rotations while keeping the bleeds at maximun efficiency.

More info about the problem at: https://trello.com/c/gG7ha3LW/748-druid-feral-guardian-affinity-vs-restoration-balance-druids-and-bleeds

Confirmed

The reason why im leaving aside the issue with bleed/poison snapshotting is because thats a different subject, plus, eitherway you look at it feral bleeds are meant to snapshot from most effects that modify the % dmg output of the abilities, yes there are 2 issues there that im working on atm, but mostly the report about bleed/poisons is quite irrelevant in this field, since the behaviour of the abilities and spec is completely different. But again, we are not talking about feral here, rather Feral and Guardian affinities and their incorrect behaviour.

*Apologies for the tardiness in a reply for such an important matter.


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Post Posted: 30-09-2020, 14:00:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Issue is now fixed and moved to Fixed Bugs.

Trello Card Link : https://trello.com/c/gG7ha3LW/748-druid-feral-guardian-affinity-vs-restoration-balance-druids-and-snapshotting

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