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Post Posted: 15-09-2015, 19:59:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=55090 (wowhead link) / https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=55090
Bug description:Dmg in PvE (Este prea mic)
Proof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=173A3T8QtQ0:


Formula:((((AP/14)*3.3+AvgWpnDmg)*1.35)+838)*.6791*1.04*(1+(1+Mastery)/2)

AP = Attack Power
AvgWpnDmg = Average Weapon Damage (on your actual weapon's tooltip, not on your character sheet. A weapon with ilvl 543 would have 24924 avg wpn dmg)
Your percentage mastery should be in its decimal form, so if you have 40% Mastery, you would use 0.4.

Assumes you're attacking a raid boss from behind with the Weakened Armor debuff and both diseases up. If you don't have Weakened Armor in your raid, change .6791 to .6507.

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Post Posted: 16-09-2015, 10:58:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pune, te rog, un link de unde ai luat formula si ps cu charsheet si dmg care il dai fara procs + un calcul de cum ar trebui sa fie dmg si cum e ca sa se vada diferenta



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Post Posted: 16-09-2015, 18:05:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Link:http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1344147-How-to-calculate-Scourge-Strike-damage
Acest calcul este pentru ilvl meu (501 Am Shin´ka pe Normal si joc la crit am bagat si full Mastery dar nu este diferenta decat la diseas)
Minim Dmg Scourge Strike-45.027,312(13.864(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery)
Maxim Dmg Scourge Strike-68.536,512(20.796(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery)
Minim Dmg Scourge Strike Shadow-69.863,904(13.864(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery) (+50% Dmg increases de la Diseasurile de pe target)
Maxim Dmg Scourge Strike Shadow-102.804,768(20.796(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery) (+50% Dmg increases de la Diseasurile de pe target)
Daca ar merge corect putem juca si la mastery si avem increas dmg mai mare pe Scourge Strike care este pilaru.(Joc de ceva ani clasa dar nici o data nu am fost asa de dezamagit de dk...)
Se vede si in acel video postat de mine ce Dmg am dat cu tot cu procuri pe mine si tot este sub minimu calculat + ca ar trebui Shadow Dmg dublat daca Scourge Strike da crit.

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Post Posted: 16-09-2015, 21:09:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Rizee wrote:
Link:http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1344147-How-to-calculate-Scourge-Strike-damage
Acest calcul este pentru ilvl meu (501 Am Shin´ka pe Normal si joc la crit am bagat si full Mastery dar nu este diferenta decat la diseas)
Minim Dmg Scourge Strike-45.027,312(13.864(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery)
Maxim Dmg Scourge Strike-68.536,512(20.796(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery)
Minim Dmg Scourge Strike Shadow-69.863,904(13.864(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery) (+50% Dmg increases de la Diseasurile de pe target)
Maxim Dmg Scourge Strike Shadow-102.804,768(20.796(WPNDMG) + 838 + 140%(WPNDMG) (+32% Mastery) (+50% Dmg increases de la Diseasurile de pe target)
Daca ar merge corect putem juca si la mastery si avem increas dmg mai mare pe Scourge Strike care este pilaru.(Joc de ceva ani clasa dar nici o data nu am fost asa de dezamagit de dk...)
Se vede si in acel video postat de mine ce Dmg am dat cu tot cu procuri pe mine si tot este sub minimu calculat + ca ar trebui Shadow Dmg dublat daca Scourge Strike da crit.

50% damage in plus la disease nu se aplica la dmgu shadow, pt ca damageu shadow e cauzat de diseaseuri.
Spellul spune ca pt fiecare disease da shadow damage 25% din cat a dat physical damage. Deci cu 2 diseaseuri trb sa dea jumate din physical damageul de la scourge strike x mastery percentage (daca il testezi pe dummy 0 armura 0 rezil)

Posturi unite automat, 16-09-2015, 22:09:29

Pe de alta parte cu statsurile mele: http://imgur.com/Dn43L63
(((11699/14)x3.3+4052)x1.35+806) x (1+(1+29%)x0.5x1.05) x1.04=17441.636 Ar trb sa fie minim dmg pe scourge strike.
In game: http://imgur.com/Q9xycZa
Asta considerand ca formula data de el e corecta(ceea ce pare a fi).
Testele la shadow part mi-au rezultat ca partea aia merge bine. Ce e bugat trb sa fie partea physical (care dicteaza shadow dmg oricum)

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Post Posted: 16-09-2015, 21:27:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da ai dreptate in legatura cu Diseasurile am scris gresit trebuia sa specific, Din Scourge Strike Physical dmg.(Frost Fever 25% +Blood Plague 25% = 50 % Physical dmg done as Shadow Dmg.
Se ajunge la 50% Physical dmg dat ca shadow dmg de la cele 2 disease

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Post Posted: 17-09-2015, 14:39:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

meowmix wrote:
Pe de alta parte cu statsurile mele: http://imgur.com/Dn43L63
(((11699/14)x3.3+4052)x1.35+806) x (1+(1+29%)x0.5x1.05) x1.04=17441.636 Ar trb sa fie minim dmg pe scourge strike.
In game: http://imgur.com/Q9xycZa
Asta considerand ca formula data de el e corecta(ceea ce pare a fi).


Ce ai postat tu, e physical dmg, deci nu e influentat de mastery. Scoate mastery din formula si o sa vezi ca iti da alta valoare.

Foarte dubios. Am calculat dupa caracterul asta, formula care am gasit-o mai sus, si apare ca omul asta a dat dmg peste dmg-ul maxim din formula. Ia verificati putin -



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Post Posted: 17-09-2015, 17:25:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Sereth wrote:
meowmix wrote:
Pe de alta parte cu statsurile mele: http://imgur.com/Dn43L63
(((11699/14)x3.3+4052)x1.35+806) x (1+(1+29%)x0.5x1.05) x1.04=17441.636 Ar trb sa fie minim dmg pe scourge strike.
In game: http://imgur.com/Q9xycZa
Asta considerand ca formula data de el e corecta(ceea ce pare a fi).


Ce ai postat tu, e physical dmg, deci nu e influentat de mastery. Scoate mastery din formula si o sa vezi ca iti da alta valoare.

Foarte dubios. Am calculat dupa caracterul asta, formula care am gasit-o mai sus, si apare ca omul asta a dat dmg peste dmg-ul maxim din formula. Ia verificati putin -

Ambi tipi de acolo spun ca skillul principal e influentat de mastery deci asa am calculat si eu. Nu sunt expert la dk.
Edit: ai dreptate min dmg care l-am obtinut e undeva la 10k si atat am dat si eu, ce e acolo e formula totala adica physical + shadow. Deci skillul merge ok.

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Post Posted: 17-09-2015, 18:51:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu jucati nici unu din voi DK PVE, Este vorba de Scourge Strike Shadow ca da prea Putin in PVE nu in PVP asa ca nu mai vorbiti aiurea dak nu stiti nimic despre clasa e usor sa dai copy paste.
Incercati sa jucati DPS Frost sau Unholy da nu la RDF la raid sa veteti ca va chinuiti sa intrati in top 10 la raid de 25 si app uitate la video-ul postat de mine si uitate pe recount ca aiurea merge SS Shadow nu mai zic de SS hituri de 14k-respectiv 16 k cu procuri pe mine.
PS: Nu ma intereseaza de pvp vostru

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Post Posted: 18-09-2015, 01:22:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Prietene, tu stii sa-ti calculezi spelul?
1. Nu pui mastery la scourge strike dmg, pentru ca nu e shadow. Doar efectul de " 50% shadow" e shadow.
2. Formulele care le-ai dat tu sunt niste prostii. Formula pentru SS physical dmg e: ( ( ( AP / 14 ) * 3.3 + Avg_Wpn_Dmg ) * 1.35 + 806 )
Formula am gasit-o pe mmo-champion
Pentru a afla Shadow dmg-ul care ar trebui dat, faci urmatoarea chestie:

( ( ( AP / 14 ) * 3.3 + Avg_Wpn_Dmg ) * 1.35 + 806 ) * 0.5 * 1.X

0,5 inseamna acel 50% dmg daca ai cele 2 deseasuri pe target.
x insemnand mastery, daca ai 60% mastery, vine * 1,60

3. Cum ai ajuns tu la ideea ca Shadow part-ul de la scourge strike ar trebui sa dea mai mult decat physical-ul, cand scrie clar " 50% din dmg as shadow " Asta inseamna jumate, adica 50%, nu 150%.
4.(off) Ai vazut cum arata Sha HC? Daca nu, nu-mi zi mie sau altora ca suntem pvp-isti.

Cu formule inventate si QQ nu faci nimic. Incearca sa cauti formule calumea si vezi care e treaba de da putin. Nu poti veni sa spui, " Stii, 50% din dmg-ul X ar trebui sa fie aproape dublu fata de el "

Oh, abia acum am vazut in ce guilda esti. Daca ti-a facut Solastrian calculele, ia-te de mana cu el. Ca si lui i-am facut 100 de calcule la acelasi spel, si desi el dadea conform formulei, zicea ca da prea putin.



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Post Posted: 17-10-2015, 17:48:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

would be nice if you could post / translate it in english at least.
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Post Posted: 17-10-2015, 18:36:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

szeky wrote:
would be nice if you could post / translate it in english at least.


agree, This is your forum of your lang but we'll appreciate it if you try posting in English

forum translator doesn't work sometimes

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Post Posted: 17-10-2015, 19:34:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu uitati ca jucam cu speluri de 5.4 si cu gear (content) de 5.1.
Nici mie nu imi place dar mereu luati in considerare asta.
Uite ce schimbari a avut ScS din 5.0.1 pana pe 5.4

ScS changes:
patch 5.0.1: 155% + 340 si 18% din diseases
patch 5.0.4: 130% + 588 si 25% din diseases
patch 5.2: 135% + 597 si 25% din diseases
patch 5.3: 135% + 597 si 25% din diseases

Sursa wowhead: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=55090 (wowhead link)
(dati la changelog)


Probabil daca va luati dupa guides de pe youtube si vedeti un anumit standard la damage va ramane impresia ca atat trebuie sa fie. Nici vorba. Iar formulele de pe mmo-champion nu stiu cat de credibile sunt, daca nu stim de unde sunt preluate.

Nu vreau sa fac flame sau offtopic dar cat timp avem spells de 5.4 pe gear de 5.1 nu ai cum testa calumea si sa te iei dupa videos de pe youtube.

Iar Mastery pe Uholy DK creste ALL shadow damage done. Deci? Cum e corect?



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Post Posted: 19-11-2015, 17:04:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mastery isn't applied to the formula since the damage is Physical, not shadow.
That formula is wrong. The damage done by this spell is correct.




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