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Post Posted: 21-09-2013, 13:28:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Daca se poate verifica dupa cat dmg se sparge sau daca problema e la sacred shield de la paladin, pentru ca mi s-a activat sacred shieldu' la 45k hp, mi l-a dat jos , am si murit , fara ca fearu sa se sparga.

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@ Piryn , nu te mai lua dupa x,y.... este un mare BUG ca nu te scoate din dots, trebuie sa te scoata fix dupa acelasi dmg ca si la instant dmg..... Ce spui tu ar insemna ca ai o sansa, sa mori in fear de la 100k HP -




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Post Posted: 21-09-2013, 13:38:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Adu dovezi de pe blizzard ca trebuie sa te scoata din fear si de la dots (de la acelasi damage ca si la direct spells) si mai vb. Pana atunci nu vad nici un bug aici.

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http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6160656225

http://wowpedia.org/Psychic_Scream#Psychic_Scream_in_PvP

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While direct damage will almost always break the effect, by placing several DoTs upon a target before fearing them and using Mind Flay, Shadow priests can cause significant amounts of damage while the enemy is helpless to respond, or escape.


Mai vrei si alte dovezi?




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Post Posted: 21-09-2013, 13:55:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Threshold la fear effects este o suma de damage dintr-un anume procentaj al targetului afectat de fear (20% din BASE health-ul targetului) nu conteaza pe ce cale e administrata, fie dot sau direct damage...

Iata si un wowhead comment din patch 4.0.3 relevant, aceasta mecanica nu s-a mai schimbat pe parcursul patchurilor pana in 4.3.4 inclusiv:

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By Withambomb on 2010/12/06 at 3:38 PM (Patch 4.0.3)
http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=218761

20% of base health, key word being "base". Overall, it's not much damage at all and maybe just enough time get your full row of DoTs up or unglyphed to get them to run into a bad place with nowhere to hide (cross your fingers that they don't take a U turn right behind LoS from you).

Due to extremely long cast time, everyone and their brother being able to dispel, tremor totem (WTF, this needs to be nerfed/removed), WotF, and the low damage threshold, I'm going to be CC'ing with damage and not fear, i.e. only casting fear when it's key to the fight. I'll be using fear to either peel when a teammate is in trouble or to chain a cc on a healer. If not, those casts where I would've cast fear for control will instead be replace with good old fashioned damage.


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Concluzia? Trebuie sa se sparga dupa ce s-a facut dmg pe target in valoare de 20% din base health-ul lui, nu conteaza ca e dot sau direct damage, evident cu dots se sparge mai greu ca si damage-ul e mai mic si lent.

Corectati-ma daca gresesc cu alte surse valide.

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Post Posted: 21-09-2013, 14:04:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Aici : http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/176571-fear-and-cata/

Aratami unde scrie ce ai zis tu




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Post Posted: 21-09-2013, 14:15:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Aici, scuze am pus linku gresit mai sus, defapt nu e gresit dar nu e cel de unde e luat quote :p

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Post Posted: 21-09-2013, 14:22:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=5782 (wowhead link)

By ExQR (842 – 2·7) on 2011/01/07 (Patch 4.0.3) Report
Now fear break's on 8000-8400 dmg or near it.
Test it some times with direct dmg and dots. Bane of agony with 760 dmg tick break fear on 11 tick. Fel flame with average dmg 2100 break fear on 4 use.




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Post Posted: 21-09-2013, 14:23:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nerd wrote:
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=5782 (wowhead link)

By ExQR (842 – 2·7) on 2011/01/07 (Patch 4.0.3) Report
Now fear break's on 8000-8400 dmg or near it.
Test it some times with direct dmg and dots. Bane of agony with 760 dmg tick break fear on 11 tick. Fel flame with average dmg 2100 break fear on 4 use.


Dap, pai cam ala e 20% din base health - de asemenea, ROFL

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Post Posted: 10-10-2013, 20:58:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Se intampla sa nu se sparga fearul de la dots doar daca ai sacred shield pe tine.

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Post Posted: 29-10-2013, 05:06:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am testat si nu e cum ziceti, si la direct damage si la dots se scade damage pe care il va mai absorbi fear-ul
In primul rand, ca sa lamuresc odata pentru totdeauna: fearul absoarbe EXACT 10% din maxhp-ul targetului (nu base hp, nu 20%, nu etc)

Faceti niste teste... castati fear ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=8122&&name=psychic-scream ) pe target apoi dati .aurainfo 8122 (am activat comanda si pentru playeri pana faceti testele), o sa arate ceva de genul
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[05:01:12] #1> duration: 7601/8000, caster = Shockeru, stack = 1, charges = 0
[05:01:12] -- eff0: amount = 10000, amplitude = 0
[05:01:12] -- eff1: amount = 25, amplitude = 0

amountul de la eff0 e valoarea care o absoarbe fearul, eu am castat fear pe un player cu 100.000 HP, deci 10% vine 10k, exact cat arata acolo.
Dati niste damage, apoi dati iar .aurainfo si o sa vedeti cat a mai ramas de absorbit pana sa se sparga fearul... faceti teste cu shielduri, dots, etc sa vedeti daca scade cum trebuie


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Post Posted: 15-11-2013, 23:10:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Multiple-Fear-Freeze-hex-etc-t231428-15.html
Duplicate, puneti aici ce teste ati facut si cum. ( explicatii concrete ) daca vreti puteti sa testati si restul.

O sa postez si eu in noaptea asta sau maine dimineata cred ( depinde daca adorm sau nu ) ce am testat pentru toate spells din lista aia.

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