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Nu prea ma ajuta ca nu pot sa repar eu aia, era reparata de mult daca puteam
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Nu prea ma ajuta ca nu pot sa repar eu aia, era reparata de mult daca puteam


Nici https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53592&&name=guarded-by-the-light la Protection ,ca partea inca care primesti 50% spell power din atack power nu merge...-

E usor de verificat de ex eu pe retri cu selfless heal cu buffele mele dau crituri de 100-120k cu flash ,dar pe protection dau maxim crit de 55-56k cu flash,iar pe prot ajung la mult mai mult atack power decat pe retri ,vreau sa joc cu eternal flame ,dar nu isi ia procentul de spell power ca nu este de unde..si primesc numa hots gen 1,7k pe tick ceea ce este foarte putin



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Eternal Flame is so overpower. Când am vãut prima datã video-ul acesta abia așteptam sã vina Pandaria. Dar atunci când am vãzut cã nu merge EF pe Freakz am fost foarte dezamagit. Da, știu cã noi avem low gear, dar totuși, Guarded by Light, Sanctity of Battle și Mastery sunt foarte importante si nu merg deloc.
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Perusing through the logs for that attempt, the highest tick found was spiking from 249k normals, to 165k, to .. ""Sparklefever Eternal Flame Sparklefever +*508437* (O: 492400)".


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Amazing, I had it ticking for 298k on Malkorok haha, do you know what the HoT was actually ticking for there?


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Actually, allow me to correct myself. That massive 500k+ was the instant heal application of EF. However, the 250k ticks were the HOT at the end of the fight with 300k+ Vengeance.



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Eternal Flame is so overpower. Când am vãut prima datã video-ul acesta abia așteptam sã vina Pandaria. Dar atunci când am vãzut cã nu merge EF pe Freakz am fost foarte dezamagit. Da, știu cã noi avem low gear, dar totuși, Guarded by Light, Sanctity of Battle și Mastery sunt foarte iimportante si nu merg deloc.
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Perusing through the logs for that attempt, the highest tick found was spiking from 249k normals, to 165k, to .. ""Sparklefever Eternal Flame Sparklefever +*508437* (O: 492400)".


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Amazing, I had it ticking for 298k on Malkorok haha, do you know what the HoT was actually ticking for there?


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Actually, allow me to correct myself. That massive 500k+ was the instant heal application of EF. However, the 250k ticks were the HOT at the end of the fight with 300k+ Vengeance.


In principal Vengeance ,guarded (care odata fixat repara si heals si damage la avenger shield etc.) si SotR si ar fi super te simti intr-un final tank si nu stiu daca seal of insight este afectat de spell power ,dar acuma imi da mult mai putin fata de acum 1 sapt si cv ,de ex la stone cand am facut prima data seal of insight imi daduse vreo 3 mil heal pe 10n acuma daca imi da 700k heal

Am vaz si video acuma...intradevar e super bun eternal flame fata de sacred si selfless ,dar din pacate nu merge partea cu spell power si vengeance ,ne batem la 1,7k pe tick si 20k heal cand dai prima data -



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bnjm wrote:
Eternal Flame is so overpower. Când am vãut prima datã video-ul acesta abia așteptam sã vina Pandaria. Dar atunci când am vãzut cã nu merge EF pe Freakz am fost foarte dezamagit. Da, știu cã noi avem low gear, dar totuși, Guarded by Light, Sanctity of Battle și Mastery sunt foarte iimportante si nu merg deloc.
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Perusing through the logs for that attempt, the highest tick found was spiking from 249k normals, to 165k, to .. ""Sparklefever Eternal Flame Sparklefever +*508437* (O: 492400)".


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Amazing, I had it ticking for 298k on Malkorok haha, do you know what the HoT was actually ticking for there?


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Actually, allow me to correct myself. That massive 500k+ was the instant heal application of EF. However, the 250k ticks were the HOT at the end of the fight with 300k+ Vengeance.


In principal Vengeance ,guarded (care odata fixat repara si heals si damage la avenger shield etc.) si SotR si ar fi super te simti intr-un final tank si nu stiu daca seal of insight este afectat de spell power ,dar acuma imi da mult mai putin fata de acum 1 sapt si cv ,de ex la stone cand am facut prima data seal of insight imi daduse vreo 3 mil heal pe 10n acuma daca imi da 700k heal

Am vaz si video acuma...intradevar e super bun eternal flame fata de sacred si selfless ,dar din pacate nu merge partea cu spell power si vengeance ,ne batem la 1,7k pe tick si 20k heal cand dai prima data -


1. Guarded by the light merge. Acuma am testat pe GM , cu 100k AP am dat heal de WOG de 50K fata de 18K cu 2k AP (inca nu e live fixul de heal la WOG deaia a dat asa putin )
2. Seal of insight ia si el increase la heal de la SP . cu 100k AP am dat 24672 heal fata de 672 cu 2k AP
3. Vengeance o mai ramas, Haste effects , si Eternal Flame si eu zic ca ii OK ca si tank

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1. Guarded by the light merge. Acuma am testat pe GM , cu 100k AP am dat heal de WOG de 50K fata de 18K cu 2k AP (inca nu e live fixul de heal la WOG deaia a dat asa putin )
2. Seal of insight ia si el increase la heal de la SP . cu 100k AP am dat 24672 heal fata de 672 cu 2k AP
3. Vengeance o mai ramas, Haste effects , si Eternal Flame si eu zic ca ii OK ca si tank


Am vazut ca seal of insight si-a revenit ,e ok mometan
WOG nu prea am cum sa vad mare dif odata ce vengeance nu e fixat si nu pot obtine cine stie ce atack power,dar aseara am facut un stone guard si la 15k atack power in plus adica aveam undeva la aprox 40k atack power imi dadea 16k maxim 20k heal la wog (apoi am renuntat la selfless healer ca nici flash nu-mi da mai mult de 58k crit,iar cum ziceam pe retri primesc si heals de 140k crit cu flash,de asta continui sa spun ca acel 50% procent de atack power nu se baga ca spell power pe protection)



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Post Posted: 07-05-2015, 07:35:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

100% se baga ca si SP , o sa fac si niste prints azi sa vedeti si voi, ca nu am mai avut timp ieri sa fac si printuri.

Au ramas ceva Glyphs importante de reparat pentru Protection ?
Din cate m-am uitat eu, cred ca is reparate toate care ne afecteaza pe protection. Daca au ramas lasati un link si o sa ma uit



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100% se baga ca si SP , o sa fac si niste prints azi sa vedeti si voi, ca nu am mai avut timp ieri sa fac si printuri.

Au ramas ceva Glyphs importante de reparat pentru Protection ?
Din cate m-am uitat eu cred ca is reparate toate care ne afecteaza pe protection. Daca au ramas lasati un link si o sa ma uit


Ok ,raman haste effects,vengeance,eternal flame ...la glyphe nu ma bag ,tin doar 3 si par sa fie ok



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Glyph of Hand of Sacrifice este important.


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@Pirinush cum adica sa reparat mai tot ? hmmm..sa fie asa
@Flashmoo Poti face o verificare? eu sunt momentan la munca si nu pot testa



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Ma refer la Glyphs pentru protection paladin. Alea sunt reparate aproape toate care ne afecteaza
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Glyph of Hand of Sacrifice am testat eu zilele astea si nu mergea.

Da,acum merge mai ok SoI,dau cate 5k nu 1.2k cat dadeam inainte.

Legat de ce mai trebe rezolvat o oridine dupa mine ar fi urmatoarea:

  1. Haste Talent - https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=25956 (wowhead link)
  2. Vengeance
  3. Shield of the Righteous & mastery
  4. Eternal Flame



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bnjm wrote:
Glyph of Hand of Sacrifice am testat eu zilele astea si nu mergea.

Da,acum merge mai ok SoI,dau cate 5k nu 1.2k cat dadeam inainte.

Legat de ce mai trebe rezolvat o oridine dupa mine ar fi urmatoarea:

  1. Haste Talent - https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=25956 (wowhead link)
  2. Vengeance
  3. Shield of the Righteous & mastery
  4. Eternal Flame


Si eu imi luam 10k heal de la seal cu vreo 20k vengeance deci merge ok



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[*]Shield of the Righteous & mastery


Ce nu merge aici ? Ca nu am vazut post pe forum

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[*]Shield of the Righteous & mastery


Ce nu merge aici ? Ca nu am vazut post pe forum

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=76671&&name=mastery-divine-bulwark

Nu se aplica la toate ,damage reduction pare sa mearga dar inca mai sunt niste fix de facut si aici ,nu stiu daca restu merg https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=114637&&name=bastion-of-glory

Deci de aici daca mergea mastery din nou heal mai mare ,block chance marit

Tin sa precizez ca wog mie nu imi heal mai mare de 20k cu 5 stack de bastion..la fel mareste heal la eternal flame cu x % per stack

Momentan cum ai spus ca ai testa cu 100k ap apoi 2k pare sa fie ok ,dar inca nu isi ia increase din mastery





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