[DUPLICATE] [Hunter][PvP]Deterence

[Maladoi]

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=19263&&name=deterrence (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Stealth abilities si cele care necesita pozitionarea in urma targetului ar trebui sa penetreze deterrencul la hunter ceea ce nu se petrece. Pentru rogi si ferali e inervant cind dai berserk/dance + on use si hunterul foloseste detter si te face inutel din cauza ca nu lucreaza cum trebuie spelul.
Dovada / Proof:
ArenaJunkies quote:''All attacks that require you to be behind your target or stealth work through detterance , feral shred works too, p ; cheapshot/Pounce/Ambush/Ravage/Garrote are all moves preformed from stealth, which means they cannot be dodged/blocked/parried."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&&v=3z_XozRwEGA#! - 12:59, hunterul utilizeaza detter si primeste un 12k backstab prin el urmat de waylay.

P.S. Am reportat acest bug jumate de an in urma si nu am primit nici un raspuns, il mai raportez inca odata, le acorda hunterilor un avantaj enorm.

[Chwchwlwlz]

rogue/druid inca da dodge cu shred/backstab/ambush cand e in spatele targetului... fara ca adversaru sa aiba deterence...

[Maladoi]

Chwchwlwlz wrote:

rogue/druid inca da dodge cu shred/backstab/ambush cand e in spatele targetului... fara ca adversaru sa aiba deterence...

Shit happens, da macar sa le fixeze deterru ar fi perfect.

[Incarnate]

That quote u posted there is from when Deterrence was still giving parry chance lol. I said this in another topic about the same shit.
And despite this video can u actually provide some "black on white" proof?

[Aaviciisback]

Maladoi wrote:

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=19263&&name=deterrence (wowhead link) Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Stealth abilities si cele care necesita pozitionarea in urma targetului ar trebui sa penetreze deterrencul la hunter ceea ce nu se petrece. Pentru rogi si ferali e inervant cind dai berserk/dance + on use si hunterul foloseste detter si te face inutel din cauza ca nu lucreaza cum trebuie spelul. Dovada / Proof: ArenaJunkies quote:''All attacks that require you to be behind your target or stealth work through detterance , feral shred works too, p ; cheapshot/Pounce/Ambush/Ravage/Garrote are all moves preformed from stealth, which means they cannot be dodged/blocked/parried." https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&&v=3z_XozRwEGA#! - 12:59, hunterul utilizeaza detter si primeste un 12k backstab prin el urmat de waylay. P.S. Am reportat acest bug jumate de an in urma si nu am primit nici un raspuns, il mai raportez inca odata, le acorda hunterilor un avantaj enorm.

Daca te-ai fi uitat mai bine in video ai fi observat ca activeaza Deterrence abia dupa ce a primit acel Backstab.Ceea ce vorbesti tu pe aici sunt doar aberatile unui player frustrat de un anumit spell, la fel cum era intr-o vreme cu flare si intrebarea fireasca "de ce nu pot steahtleri sa umbe liberi prin flare fara sa fie detectati" -_-

[dannyb]

Maladoi wrote:

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=19263&&name=deterrence (wowhead link) Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Stealth abilities si cele care necesita pozitionarea in urma targetului ar trebui sa penetreze deterrencul la hunter ceea ce nu se petrece. Pentru rogi si ferali e inervant cind dai berserk/dance + on use si hunterul foloseste detter si te face inutel din cauza ca nu lucreaza cum trebuie spelul. Dovada / Proof: ArenaJunkies quote:''All attacks that require you to be behind your target or stealth work through detterance , feral shred works too, p ; cheapshot/Pounce/Ambush/Ravage/Garrote are all moves preformed from stealth, which means they cannot be dodged/blocked/parried." https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&&v=3z_XozRwEGA#! - 12:59, hunterul utilizeaza detter si primeste un 12k backstab prin el urmat de waylay. P.S. Am reportat acest bug jumate de an in urma si nu am primit nici un raspuns, il mai raportez inca odata, le acorda hunterilor un avantaj enorm.

iti recomand sa intri pe wowhead si sa citesti patch notes de pe 4.0.6

[Flatlined]

Si-a luat backstab din cauza delay-ului, cel mai probabil.

Patch 4.0.6 (2011-02-08): Now provides 100% chance for melee attacks to miss instead of 100% parry chance. This means that attacks that cannot be parried, notably some rogue abilities, can now be prevented by Deterrence, and the hunter will gain the benefit of Deterrence even if disarmed.

Maladoi wrote:

ArenaJunkies quote:''All attacks that require you to be behind your target or stealth work through detterance , feral shred works too, p ; cheapshot/Pounce/Ambush/Ravage/Garrote are all moves preformed from stealth, which means they cannot be dodged/blocked/parried."

Quote-ul al e din wrath/inceputurile lui cata, aia mergea doar pana in 4.0.3 dupa cum vezi si in patch notes a fost modificat in 4.0.6



http://old.wowhead.com/spell=19263#comments

"Shiroikage (223 – 2) on 2011/01/12 (Patch 4.0.3)
Note that attacks made to you while your targets are stealthed will still hit you.(cheapshot pounce ambush garrote etc.)
The same Principle applies to shadow dance. While the rogue is in shadow dance he can ambush cheapshot or even garrote you."

La care i s-a raspuns:

"Shageki on 2011/01/14 (Patch 4.0.3)
Which is thankfully being fixed in a coming patch, with the 100% chance to parry being changed to a 100% chance for melee attacks to miss."


Bug report invalid. Singurul spell care trece prin deter ii Chaos Bolt.

[scarr]

fail post dett now dodges all attacks so QQ altundeva. Nici warru nu a postat ca nu trece bladestorm-ul prin el si postezi tu asa ceva ))

[Incarnate]

What's rly funny in this topic is that there is a similar one about the same thing in the Confirmed section of the forum.
Both should get Rejected.

[Maladoi]

Incarnate wrote:

What's rly funny in this topic is that there is a similar one about the same thing in the Confirmed section of the forum. Both should get Rejected.

It was confirmed but not rejected/fixed and i was too selfish to check out the patch notes, my bad...you are right.

[GhiciCine]

Rogues/ferals could actually ambush/backstab/cheap shot and that other thingy from feral....but that was in WOTLK.The only things i'm aware that can actually go though deterrence at the moment are still Chaos Bolt/overpower & maybe i don't know for sure..Shattering Throw.

Si a doua la mana @Avicii ...rogii chiar pot trece prin flare atata cat au COS Up....altfel nu pot merge prin flare.Inteleg ca esti defensiv din cauza ca esti hunter..ca si mine but srsly chill out.


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/magtheridon/Ghicicine/simple
http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&n=Gc

[Aaviciisback]

GhiciCine wrote:

Rogues/ferals could actually ambush/backstab/cheap shot and that other thingy from feral....but that was in WOTLK.The only things i'm aware that can actually go though deterrence at the moment are still Chaos Bolt/overpower & maybe i don't know for sure..Shattering Throw. Si a doua la mana @Avicii ...rogii chiar pot trece prin flare atata cat au COS Up....altfel nu pot merge prin flare.Inteleg ca esti defensiv din cauza ca esti hunter..ca si mine but srsly chill out.

Din moment ce nu ai vazut topicul facut de un anumit domn patchul trecut, sa vezi aberatiile scoase de el, ma indoiesc ca ai fi ramas la aceeasi concluzie.

Legat de Detterce nici Chaos Bolt/Overpower sau Shattering Throw nu trec, respectiv nu au nicio legatura cu trecerea prin acesta.Citeste bine ce face acel spel inainte de a mai reporta aberatii.

Crede-ma ca nu imi apar clasa, nici macar nu sunt interesat de PvP, dar daca jucam pe un privat ce are in vedere ca si clasele sa functioneze Blizzlike, asa sa fie, nu sa ne trezim fiecare "vreau nerf la hunter/dk/warr/priest/paladin".

[GhiciCine]

Yea i guess ca ai dreptate treceau inainte...acuma numai.M-am interesant si in mare parte Deterrence e pretty op facut in ultimele patchuri acuma.


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/magtheridon/Ghicicine/simple
http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&n=Gc

[Tzopaluca]

In tooltip la Deterrence scrie ca da DEFLECT(miss) la orice meele, range sau spell indiferent de pozitia hunterului.In cazul in care hunterul e survival si are talent in https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=83495&&name=mirrored-blades , nu doar ca da deflect la orice spell, dar il si reflecteaza catre caster(inca nu s-a reparat).
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Hunter-PvP-Deterrence-t199530.html
Puteti da close la topic, e inutil.

[ShiftFTW]

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