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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 07:11:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ahh. Vad ca de la 950 apare acolo.. si eu carecredeam ca e diferenta destul de mare..
Care e faza cu cei de la amd de fac placi video slabe pentru laptop?..




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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 11:02:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da, placile amd pe laptop au fost sa fie si nici nu au modele puternice pentru ca nu le permitea arhitectura. Anul asta cu Polaris o sa vedem placi video pe laptop de la AMD, si ma gandesc sa imi vand si eu 960-ul si sa trec iar la team red cand vor aparea gpu-urile de desktop, chiar mi-am luat o teapa majora sa dau 950 lei pe o placa video de 2gb vram, setarile pe care le duce placa nu le duce vram-ul si apeleaza la ramii normali, cand se intampla asta incepe sa iti sacadeze desi ai 70 fps.

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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 11:44:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am vreo sansa sa`mi pun w10 pe asta al meu Necris ? 3Gb rami,procesor 2.2,placa video Mobile Intel(R) de 1GB,HDD de 150.


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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 12:15:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Merge si pe tablete.

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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 12:47:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Necris wrote:
Merge si pe tablete.


De mers stiu ca merge,dar ma interesa cum se misca,daca se misca mai greu ca 7,o las balta.



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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 13:46:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ca optimizare windowsurile vin asa 10>8.1>7>8>others. Teoretic trebuie sa se miste mai bine.

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Dar 10 nu consuma mai mult ram decat 7? Stiu ca cel putin windows 8.1 se misca putin mai greu pe vechitura mea decat 7..



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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 15:52:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Asa stiam si eu,mananca mai multi rami ca 7.


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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 15:56:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

La mine rar ajunge in 4 gb utilizati in afara jocurilor, 1.4 normal in idle fara nimic deschis, meh, la mine se lafaie oricum in ei eu avand 8.

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Eu am 2GB ram pe actualul pc si nu ajunge la 2 GB ram in afara jocurilor.

Acum am 1,44 cu opera, steam si idle master deschis + AVG. Windows 7.
Sau tu ai pe 64 biti?




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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 17:47:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Necris sau cine se pricepe imi puteti explica cat de simplu posibil despre Report Rate (Hz) la mouse, influenteaza cumva gameplay ?
Am la mouse 125 Hz / 250 Hz / 500 Hz / 1000 Hz , folosesc 1000 asa mi-a recomandat cineva, de ce nici el nu stie :]]

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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 18:24:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Faywder am cautat acuma pe internet si aceste valori reprezinta numarul de informatii trimise catre pc.
Mouse-urile usb normale au 125 hz,iar acestea de gaming au valori mai mari iar aceasta valoare are un lag 8ms si cea de 1000hz are un lag 1ms.

Iar din cate am citit pe internet valorile mai mari ajuta la jocurile de tip fps.

Dar asteapta pareri,poate cineva stie mai exact



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De cate ori / secunda iti este actualizata pozitia mouse-ului, 500 e sweet-spot pentru un nivel competitiv sau daca ai monitor de 144hz. 1000 iti cam afecteaza cpu performance si e cam overkill, deschide task manager si incepe sa misti mouse-ul rapid sa vezi cat afecteaza procesorul, la mine e 20% la 500hz... pe un i5... daca ai ceva mai slab sugerez 250.

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Un monitor de 144hz poate sa redea un maxim de 144 fps presupunand ca placa video duce atatea, asta inseamna ca tie ti se schimba un frame odata la 1 / 144 = 6.99 milisecunde. Este ideal la un monitor sa ai undeva mai jos de jumatate din latenta asta pentru a evita acel motion blur cauzat schimbarea mult prea rapida a imaginilor.

Acum mouse-ul tau la 1000hz o sa aiba practic o latenta de 1ms, dar monitorul isi da refresh odata la ~ 7 ms ^^. Si nu te gandii ca monitorul ala face exceptie special pentru mouse -.
500hz = 2ms latenta, 250hz = 4 ms, 125hz = 8 ms.

La un monitor 1080p 60 hz nici nu are rost sa te stresezi; asta schimba imaginea odata la vreo 16-17 ms. Poti sa tii mouse-ul si pe 125hz ca nu o sa ai diferente vizibile.

Necris, ai 20% cpu cand misti mouse-ul pentru ca probabil se atinge de alea prin browser si incep sa ruleze scripturile din spatele panourilor -). Polling rate in cel mai rau caz iti aglomereaza bus-ul sistemului cu informatii si incepe sa apara o desincronizare de comunicatie intre device-uri gen placa de sunet/retea/etc si CPU. Si asta nici macar nu ti-o indica task manager, trebuie process explorer/hacker si cercetat cat % ia in servicii DPC/interrupts, apoi luat un analizer si vazut pe unde apare problema care poate fi driver related sau pur si simplu de la faptul ca pc-ul e prea slab sa suporte acel device care floodeaza bus-ul cu informatii.


A da, si nu va ganditi ca daca scoateti vsync si vedeti acolo 300 fps, monitorul reda acele 300 fps - E la 60 hz, 60 fps vezi, 120 hz 120 fps vezi, 140hz -> 140 fps.


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Post Posted: 12-01-2016, 20:16:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fara sa ating nimic se duce in 20% daca fac cerculete pe dekstop, bine, e un sandy-bridge care uneori se incarca aiurea cu procese dar asta ca sa explic ca mananca degeaba din resurse.

Oricum un imput atat de rapid face diferenta doar la un nivel competitiv si acolo in cazuri rare, in care sa zicem snip vs snip unde la tine ajunge comanda mai repede la server si asta doar in situatii de tip lan ca pe net influenteaza mai mult netu' and so on, marketing, 144hz la monitor face diferenta fata de 60, 1000hz la mouse nu, ggwp.


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