[EN] Shaman Restoration PvE Guide

[Macedo931]

gamer4life wrote:

pe ce planeta traiesti?! Primu tick pune un stack la toti cei afectati. PLS STOP blowing up the players

Name of the topic is "[EN]Shaman Restoration PvE Guide", so keep it English please.

I think you're on the wrong forum, this isn't Blizzard, this is Freakz. Healing rain DOES NOT GIVE STACKS, even if you leave and re-enter the AoE. I spam healing rains through the WHOLE fight and I don't run OOM (except on the first blue globule). I do know to play my class on this server, do you?

[Roshkatul]

gamer4life wrote:

Roshkatul wrote: gamer4life wrote: Macedo931 wrote: gamer4life wrote: ps: we don't use your strategy. In Yor'sahj in black phase with purple, i use healing rain when raid starts to fall under 80% HP (one stack on all) and then we use greater healing wave on different players (you can see the number of stack on raid frame, so no blind heal. When someone in the raid starts to fall under 50% HP and already has 4 stacks, i use earthshield on him, or spirit link totem. Healing rain doesn't give stacks. pe ce planeta traiesti?! Primu tick pune un stack la toti cei afectati. PLS STOP blowing up the players He lives on freakz, where Healing rain doesn't add stacks at your'sahj. Get your info right. good then, i hope you both get in the same raid and spam healing rain together in purple... is sure going to be a blast . (use mana potions for a better effect) If u cast healing rain and everybody gets one stack, that dosent mean the next healing rain is not going to ad another stack.. is just that that raid is mana dry so probably u can cast another healing rain after 2-3 LB when u get enough mana for it..or for spirit link totem or for 2-3 greater healing wave to save some player without class rezistance ability knowledge. Quote: Healing Rain gives 1 stack, and 1 extra stack each time a player leaves and re-enters the AoE heal. http://www.wowhead.com/npc=55312#comments

FFS, you can't understand one simple thing? IT ISN'T WORKING properly on freakz, so stop coming with coments from wowhead or any retail website, since this isn't RETAIL. Stop talking if you have no idea what are you talking about.


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[gamer4life]

Macedo931 wrote:

gamer4life wrote: pe ce planeta traiesti?! Primu tick pune un stack la toti cei afectati. PLS STOP blowing up the players Name of the topic is "[EN]Shaman Restoration PvE Guide", so keep it English please. I think you're on the wrong forum, this isn't Blizzard, this is Freakz. Healing rain DOES NOT GIVE STACKS, even if you leave and re-enter the AoE. I spam healing rains through the WHOLE fight and I don't run OOM (except on the first blue globule). I do know to play my class on this server, do you?

Maybe if you didn't notice this, the fact that there is a red or a blue ooze with purple is the most life saving thing at yorsahj. If there is red, i dare you to leave the healing aoe area and re-enter (probably you will definitly die from searing blood). The fact that there is mana shortage is also abonus because nobody can spam heal.

[Macedo931]

gamer4life wrote:

Macedo931 wrote: gamer4life wrote: pe ce planeta traiesti?! Primu tick pune un stack la toti cei afectati. PLS STOP blowing up the players Name of the topic is "[EN]Shaman Restoration PvE Guide", so keep it English please. I think you're on the wrong forum, this isn't Blizzard, this is Freakz. Healing rain DOES NOT GIVE STACKS, even if you leave and re-enter the AoE. I spam healing rains through the WHOLE fight and I don't run OOM (except on the first blue globule). I do know to play my class on this server, do you? Maybe if you didn't notice this, the fact that there is a red or a blue ooze with purple is the most life saving thing at yorsahj. If there is red, i dare you to leave the healing aoe area and re-enter (probably you will definitly die from searing blood). The fact that there is mana shortage is also abonus because nobody can spam heal.

Usually I try finishing the Healing Rain cast before all of my mana disappears, that way I have whole duration the Healing rain and just enough time to either cast a few Lightning Bolts or wait until the previous Mana Void is killed.
I tested Healing rain some time ago on a normal raid, with just purple and blue oozes present. I left the Healing Rain AoE, waited a second, came back in - no stacks gained.

The fact that you're taking this to the extremes, saying that no one has mana after the blue ooze means that either you are forgetting about the awesome talent / totem called Mana Tide Totem (+ T13 2p bonus) which gives you enough mana to continue healing even after your mana has drained OR that you or your group still don't know the tactics involving blue ooze on Yor'sahj.

Also, Healing Rain is, on my healing done recount, the 1st spell with 30-40% of my healing on the first 3 bosses in DS 10h (Morchok, Zon'ozz and Yor'sahj). Only on Hagara I don't have that many chances to use it properly, except the start of the fight or end of each phase when most of us are stacked.

[soulkreep]

Man as the other people just said ground based healing effects such as heaing rain or power word sanctuary are bugged on freakz and do not add stacks so you can spam them if you want (and you usually want to) .If you do not beliave us you can test it out next time you do yor'shaj .

Resto shaman PVE

[gamer4life]

soulkreep wrote:

Man as the other people just said ground based healing effects such as heaing rain or power word sanctuary are bugged on freakz and do not add stacks so you can spam them if you want (and you usually want to) .If you do not beliave us you can test it out next time you do yor'shaj .

I actualy did a test a while ago... in 25 hc, 4 shamy in raid.. we spammed 3 healing rain after another and it was the fastest wipe in my history. The raid HP started to drop really fast, i used spirit link...to many players nuked the raid. HPS in recount was like ~50 k. Good news, mastery works (healing stream had like 8 k hps from 2,5-3k usualy has).

SoulKreep if u spam healing rain and the others dont, that means that someone in your raid is smart enough to wait for stacks to drop. If u say AOE healling dosent add stacks on freakz, why not get your dudu use tranquility. ..

PS: This is a SHAMAN PVE Restoration GUIDE so probably is not wise to encourage the use of exploits or bugs, because when they get fixed..all your readers will go like " This boss is made imposible to raid, etc" Remember last fix on Valiona in 4.0.6.

[Macedo931]

gamer4life wrote:

I actualy did a test a while ago... in 25 hc, 4 shamy in raid.. we spammed 3 healing rain after another and it was the fastest wipe in my history. The raid HP started to drop really fast, i used spirit link...to many players nuked the raid. HPS in recount was like ~50 k.

Did you test this on retail or Freakz? On which realm are you?

gamer4life wrote:

If u say AOE healling dosent add stacks on freakz, why not get your dudu use tranquility. ..

Tranquility is a "smart heal" - it doesn't heal all people in it's range, just 5-12 people with lowest % of hp, and applies a HoT to the healed targets. That is why it gives stacks.

gamer4life wrote:

PS: This is a SHAMAN PVE Restoration GUIDE so probably is not wise to encourage the use of exploits or bugs, because when they get fixed..all your readers will go like " This boss is made imposible to raid, etc" Remember last fix on Valiona in 4.0.6.

When that "fix" goes live, I believe players will manage to live with it, just like the last Valiona fix on 4.0.6.

[Roshkatul]

Excuse us gamer4life, I guess when 4 people tell you something, we are all wrong.

Healing Rain does not add stacks.

Shaman is very versatile, and this guide teaches you that, so even if it will get fixed, I'm sure everyone will be fine with it. You don't know the mechanics of this class/spec on freakz, so I guess you don't have the right to talk atm.


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[gamer4life]

Roshkatul wrote:

Excuse us gamer4life, I guess when 4 people tell you something, we are all wrong. Healing Rain does not add stacks. Shaman is very versatile, and this guide teaches you that, so even if it will get fixed, I'm sure everyone will be fine with it. You don't know the mechanics of this class/spec on freakz, so I guess you don't have the right to talk atm.

I'm not the type of person who likes to wipe the raid every time he wants to test something. When i tested, it wiped the raid and i never tested again since then. Is not that me and my teammates are smart enough not to do this or that because is not ment to work like that, is just that yorsahj now is not a very big challenge. One healing spell is more then enough to keep the raid alive even with purple ooze (mana or no mana)

The weird thing about exploits is that once they are fixed, you realize you cant play proper anymore and then you wonder ..do you really know how to play?!

[Macedo931]

gamer4life wrote:

Roshkatul wrote: Excuse us gamer4life, I guess when 4 people tell you something, we are all wrong. Healing Rain does not add stacks. Shaman is very versatile, and this guide teaches you that, so even if it will get fixed, I'm sure everyone will be fine with it. You don't know the mechanics of this class/spec on freakz, so I guess you don't have the right to talk atm. I'm not the type of person who likes to wipe the raid every time he wants to test something. When i tested, it wiped the raid and i never tested again since then. Is not that me and my teammates are smart enough not to do this or that because is not ment to work like that, is just that yorsahj now is not a very big challenge. One healing spell is more then enough to keep the raid alive even with purple ooze (mana or no mana) The weird thing about exploits is that once they are fixed, you realize you cant play proper anymore and then you wonder ..do you really know how to play?!

As I said, when that fix comes live, I believe players will be able to go around and live with it.

Also here, my guild's Yor'sahj 10h run, with me healing as a shaman. You can see that I used healing rain before the purple, and once again, during the purple phases, and it didn't give stacks.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8JSgr35Tgj8:

[soulkreep]

When in Rome do as the the romans do .When on Freaks ... do as the people on blizzard do? Hell no you play to your class's maximum potential .

When spirit link totem was bugged and was affected by nature resist what did you do ?Did you stop using it because it wasn't like on the official server ?

gamer4life wrote:

The weird thing about exploits is that once they are fixed, you realize you cant play proper anymore and then you wonder ..do you really know how to play?!

[FIXED] Healing rain Purple stacks
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[retarded shaman]: OMFG they fixed healing rain I don't know how to play anymore my world is falling apart:((
[normal shaman]: Oh they fixed healing rain ... well I just have to use my normal purple ooze healing style without healing rain .No prob .

Resto shaman PVE

[Roshkatul]

Exactly as soulkreep said. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have used lava lash when it was bugged at hagara/majordomo/zon'ozz.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I do know how to play my class. I'm using all of shaman's spell depending on situation, while my overhealing is around 15-20%, maybe even less.

I repeat, and again I repeat, you're on freakz, you adapt yourself and you create your own play style (without using blizzard guides, since they're not accurate compared to freakz).


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[gamer4life]

soulkreep si roshkatul, eu nu am aratat cu degetul dar daca va simtiti.. oricum ma bucur pentru voi 2 ca nu dati delete la shaman pentru ca nu mai puteti sa spamati healing rain in purple.

[Macedo931]

gamer4life wrote:

soulkreep si roshkatul, eu nu am aratat cu degetul dar daca va simtiti.. oricum ma bucur pentru voi 2 ca nu dati delete la shaman pentru ca nu mai puteti sa spamati healing rain in purple.

Wasn't the video I posted enough to prove your wrong?

[Roshkatul]

Gamer4life, we allready prooved you that you're wrong, and now you're aiming at insulting us, claiming that we won't be able to play shaman without using freakz mechanics. Please leave this topic (if you don't have anything productive to say about the guide) before you'll insult us any longer..


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