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Post Posted: 23-08-2012, 22:32:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

As vrea sa adun cateva pareri despre spec-ul elemental de la shaman. Ce spuneti, e viabil patch-ul asta? Da/nu. Daca foloseste careva spec-ul si se descurca bine, poate vine si cu un printscreen cu un recount la DPS din raiduri.
Edit:[Sunt interesant in principal de aspectul PVE al spec-ului]
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Post Posted: 23-08-2012, 22:35:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pvp merge super
pve este foarte slab..peste 15k in bis items nu poti

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Post Posted: 23-08-2012, 22:44:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ai rabdare sa ii repare masteryu sa vezi cum rasar shamanii elemental.Este un spec ok .
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Post Posted: 23-08-2012, 22:57:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mastery stiu ca merge bine.
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Post Posted: 23-08-2012, 23:18:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hurricane Jack wrote:
Mastery stiu ca merge bine.

nope , no way , merge ca dracu

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Post Posted: 23-08-2012, 23:23:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Loveheal wrote:
Pvp merge super
pve este foarte slab..peste 15k in bis items nu poti


Sheeva noastra scotea peste 20k ca enchantament (offspec) la atramades si am mai vazut vre'o 2 shamani care scoteau peste 25k dps de ma chinuiam sa ii prind din urma cu hunteru, nu am screens la un recount cu ele shaman in raid sa postez.


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Post Posted: 23-08-2012, 23:25:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hurricane Jack wrote:
Mastery stiu ca merge bine.

singuru lucru care merge la mastery este spelu suplimentar de la lighning bolt (probabil si de la lava burst) dar aceste buffuri nu beneficiaza de talente, nu produc stacuri pe lighning shield cum ar trebuii si da 75% din spell dmg fara crit, talente etc.

Cu alte cuvinte nu renteaza.
io scot 18 k dps cu iteme bis (defapt oscileaza intre 22 si 12 k dps dar cel mai mult am reusit sa il mentin la 18 k cu buffuri de raid)

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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 00:20:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

La pvp, elementalul e slab patchul asta. De pe 4.1 incolo shamanul o sa fie foarte bun (mai ales ca resto).


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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 08:28:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Necris wrote:
Loveheal wrote:
Pvp merge super
pve este foarte slab..peste 15k in bis items nu poti


Sheeva noastra scotea peste 20k ca enchantament (offspec) la atramades si am mai vazut vre'o 2 shamani care scoteau peste 25k dps de ma chinuiam sa ii prind din urma cu hunteru, nu am screens la un recount cu ele shaman in raid sa postez.


ma refeream la Elemental nu la enhancement -

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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 10:00:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Elemental merge destul de ok, va bate pe voi Fulmination :p
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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 10:41:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Elemental merge binisor si daca stii juca poti sa dai dps foarte mare (nu 15k cum ziceau unii) ce-i drept nu l-am vazut decat pe Hrn cand jucam impreuna in ENS ca era in top 5 alti elementali nu am vazut sa rupa norma. Cat despre Enha si ala da foarte bine (24-25k ceea ce e bine pt shaman).




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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 12:36:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

-STORMLORD- wrote:
La pvp, elementalul e slab patchul asta. De pe 4.1 incolo shamanul o sa fie foarte bun (mai ales ca resto).


10 k absorb (stoneclaw totem) roots, slow, best burst crit - , party spell reflect.
..dap ..elementalul e foarte slab in pvp. (sarcasm)

in pve e imposibil sa mentii un dps constant indiferent de gear pentru ca mastery nu merge deloc iar chargeurile de lighning shield se fac foarte greu.

dar in pvp burst e tot ce conteaza

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boscodeala wrote:
Elemental merge binisor si daca stii juca poti sa dai dps foarte mare (nu 15k cum ziceau unii) ce-i drept nu l-am vazut decat pe Hrn cand jucam impreuna in ENS ca era in top 5 alti elementali nu am vazut sa rupa norma. Cat despre Enha si ala da foarte bine (24-25k ceea ce e bine pt shaman).


dai si 30 k ..pentru 10 secunde (cu burst logic) ..dupa aia scade rau de tot. Lighningbolt da prea putin dmg iar mastery nu adauga stacuri la lighning shield dar odata la 30 - 50 de secunde poti sa dai cate un fulmination de 50 - 200 k.
30 de secunde iti ia in mod normal sa faci destule chargeuri pe un boss, dar daka ai mobi si castezi chainligning, poti sa faci chargeurile in 10 secunde.(depinde cati mobi lovesti deodata cu lighning bolt)

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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 12:37:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

laanah wrote:
-STORMLORD- wrote:
La pvp, elementalul e slab patchul asta. De pe 4.1 incolo shamanul o sa fie foarte bun (mai ales ca resto).


10 k absorb (stoneclaw totem) roots, slow, best burst crit - , party spell reflect.
..dap ..elementalul e foarte slab in pvp. (sarcasm)

in pve e imposibil sa mentii un dps constant indiferent de gear pentru ca mastery nu merge deloc iar chargeurile de lighning shield se fac foarte greu.

dar in pvp burst e tot ce conteaza


Eram absolut sigur cand am dat click pe postul tau ca o sa gasesc iar un ratatism Dreaming. Atat de previzibil.

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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 12:49:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Zohlomg wrote:
laanah wrote:
-STORMLORD- wrote:
La pvp, elementalul e slab patchul asta. De pe 4.1 incolo shamanul o sa fie foarte bun (mai ales ca resto).


10 k absorb (stoneclaw totem) roots, slow, best burst crit - , party spell reflect.
..dap ..elementalul e foarte slab in pvp. (sarcasm)

in pve e imposibil sa mentii un dps constant indiferent de gear pentru ca mastery nu merge deloc iar chargeurile de lighning shield se fac foarte greu.

dar in pvp burst e tot ce conteaza


Eram absolut sigur cand am dat click pe postul tau ca o sa gasesc iar un ratatism Dreaming. Atat de previzibil.


Hai nu fi asa rau... omul poate a facut teste si chiar nu merge.... j/k


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Edit: Disclamer: cuvintele de mai sus nu trebuie interpretate in mod absolut. Este doar o estimare personala bazata pe calcule statistice la care am adaugat 60 de minute marja de eroare.[/quote]
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Post Posted: 24-08-2012, 13:06:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

sincer zohl nu inteleg de ce nu il expediati pe asta din comunitate, am mai intalnit oameni care sa aiva si posturi/pareri/conceptii gresite, dar asta intrece orice limita

in alta ordine de idei, indiferent de ce au spus baietii mai sus specul de elemental pe 4.0.6 a fost unul dintre cele mai slabe specuri din joc pe retail, atat in pve cat si in pvp, in pvp chiar fiind cel mai slab spec de pe patch dintre toate clasele
-cu toate astea, avand in vedere cati underachieveri sunt in jocul asta, un shaman elemental care stie ce are de facut si scoate tot ce se poate din clasa lui putea sa faca fata in pve si pe retail, si poate si acum sa faca fata si pe freakz, dar daca nu iti place intradevar specul foarte mult, vei fi dezamagit de dps-ul scos

@iannah, fulmination >120k o sa prinzi doar pe bossi cu increased damage recieved, pe alt boss normal nu o sa prinzi niciodata asa ceva, si lightning bolt da exact cat trebuie sa dea, nu da deloc damage putin, overloadurile despre care vorbesti merg foarte bine, este normal sa dea 75% din base damage cu sansa separata de crit, singurele probleme la ele sunt ca nu iau bosnu din talente/alte spelluri, de aici reiesing ca overloadul de lava burst are 20-25% sansa de crit(in functie de cat crit ai tu pe tine) in loc sa aiva 100% cand e flame shock pe target cum ar trebuii, si procurile de la light bolt/chain light nu pun stacks de lightning shield

in legatura cu enha shaman, am vazut ceva de genul "24-25k ceea ce e bine pentru shaman" ceea ce e o tampenie, la cat de buguit e enha in mom asta nu e deloc bine 25k, pe enha nu trebuie sa existe vreun boss la care in raid de 25 sa scoti sub 30k dps(evident nu luam in calcul cazurile speciale, la bossi cu movement mult, care sunt cancerul enha shamanului)

a cerut omu poze, filme ceva cu recount, uite aici raid facut mai demult pe freakz, cel mai bine e evidential potentialul in baradin hold, care incepe undeva la 1:50 (dupa o ora si 50 de min adica), nu este din elemental pov, dar urmareste Hrn in recount:
http://ro.twitch.tv/gufy94xfire/b/317119045



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