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[FIXED] [Druid] Feral Auto Attack

 
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Post Posted: 08-11-2017, 19:25:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=6603
Bug description: Does not scale the damage appropriate.
Proof:
1) https://imgur.com/a/KOhHp
>Itemlevel: 843
>Attack Power: 22,550
>Total Ranks Purchased: 19
>Normal hits: 11,417 - Critical hits: 22,707
2) https://imgur.com/a/PqBKA
>Itemlevel: 829
>Total Ranks Purchased: 25
>Normal hits: 10.933 - Critical hits: 21,818
3) https://imgur.com/a/tkKNg
>Itemlevel: 861
>Normal hits: 19,477 - Critical hits: 39,202
4) Druid feral Freakz: https://imgur.com/a/D2AlC
>Itemlevel: 869
>Attack Power: 24,811
>Normal hits: 5,095/7,928 - Critical hits: 14,865/16,124
>Total Ranks Purchased: 39


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Post Posted: 08-11-2017, 20:57:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The guy in the first image has 9% versatility which also increase damage from auto attacks.

I am not sure but as far as I remember some dummies had no armor on retail.



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Post Posted: 09-11-2017, 02:40:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://imgur.com/a/92cJS
The damage does not change as much, placing almost the same statistics https://imgur.com/a/KOhHpand bring more item leveland decreasing my agility 1,832p
the next image https://imgur.com/a/zdoLK using the trinket 'Horn of valor': increasing your primary stat by 2,831p. (increasing Agility). The damage increased little.
"Agility: Is your primary statistic. It provides you with Attack Power, which determines the damage your abilities do."
So, i want to say that if I have more agility my attack power increases.
https://imgur.com/a/KOhHp Attack Power: 22,550 Total Ranks Purchased:19 With less amount of traits does more melee damage (with a difference A.P 2,261)
https://imgur.com/a/D2AlC Attack Power: 24,811(Increasing damage with melee weapons by 7,088 damage per second. Increasing spell power by 29,773) Total Ranks Purchased: 39 my weapon has more traits, and it does not get to do the same amount of melee damage, each trait points increase an amount 'x' in agility and among others.
So, is the amount of attack power wrong for each point of agility obtained?


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Post Posted: 09-11-2017, 04:20:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

No.
The number of traits does not increase agility, it can increase auto-attacks if you have points in the last golden trait that increases damage. The weapon item level although increases your auto attack damage, as well as versatility and agility(attack power) does.

Formula for white damage is more complicated than this.



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Post Posted: 09-11-2017, 08:06:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

If true, it does not increase the points of the traits the agility, was my error.
I have been with the druid looking everywhere and I was curious to hit in the Bear Form the hits melee are high, https://imgur.com/a/xM5YA
Travel Form melee hits are high, https://imgur.com/a/PlYRH
without form melee hits are high, https://imgur.com/a/ML2Sc
Cat Form hits melee are no high as in its other forms, https://imgur.com/a/OMupq
I do not know if this should work in this way, but i have many doubts.


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Post Posted: 14-11-2017, 15:15:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Garn wrote:
Third, I am not sure but as far as I remember some dummies had no armor on retail, I might be wrong.

You are wrong, the dummy w/o armor was on Freakz not on retail.

Garn wrote:
The weapon item level although increases your auto attack damage, as well as haste, versatility and agility(atack power) does.

Haste does not increase auto attack dmg, you are from a different movie my friend.

Also cat form white dmg should do less dmg than bear form/out of forms white dmg because in cat form you hit twice per seconds (it has a different formula of calculation). About the actual numbers i will take a look if you are right later on.


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Post Posted: 14-11-2017, 19:49:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

You're right it uses normalized weapon damage. I edited.

Ok, I checked some retail sources here . And apparently at 32k AP he could keep between 20k and 30k normal auto attacks hits on boss.

With roughly the same amount of AP(31k) and versa and over 20 ilvl higher on weapon and full traits I sit around min 12k -15k maximum auto attacks. Talents are the same so the template is similar.



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Post Posted: 05-12-2017, 16:54:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I can confirm this with the following video of a druid hitting a training dummy where the gray normal damage is shown pretty well

https://youtube.com/watch?v=npovWpSxaSE:

Minute 5:53 on the video u will see hits between 23 and 60k normal gray damage on the dummy, meawhile one in the server barely deal a minimun of 8k to 16k normal gray damage non crit

The people who would like to deal some decent amount of damage as feral and make the class viable would like to see this fixed soon.




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Post Posted: 06-01-2018, 17:01:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

There at Agility: 33,730 Crit: 6,799 Haste: 5,007 Mastery: 8,327 Versatility: 5,440 the dmg from melee's are

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MBc7jDabpCWPJLQ3#fight=6&&type=damage-done&&source=26

Yea and vers increase dmg on melee atack.

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Post Posted: 11-01-2018, 21:57:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Can you please take a look into this @Quicksand? Doing 1/4 of the dmg that it should..

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Post Posted: 17-01-2018, 00:14:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Completely rewrote Animal Damage (cat and bear form). Spent around 8 hours doing so, I checked every possible combination of forms, weapons, etc on retail, found all the correct formulas. Now even the spells' damage are fixed (those that depend on melee damage, such as Swipe, Shred).

at 30k AP and my weapon is iLvl 925, with 54 traits my melee damage is 27-33k. The actual damage formulas are complicated as fuck, and as I said, I spent way too much time on them to make them public, but as I said, I've compared our results to retail values (human form - cat form - bear form, 2H, 1H, with/without pvp templates) and got the exact same results, so it should be fine now.

This also possibly fixes resto/balance hitting too hard with feral affinity

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