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[FIXED] [Druid][Feral][Spell] Ferocious Bite

 
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Post Posted: 24-05-2015, 22:04:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=22568&&name=ferocious-bite
Bug description: A while ago there was a post about Ferocious bite and you confirmed it is fixed. Actually the bonus effects work. The damage tho is wrong making the ability more useless than maim in damage and there is no burst potential.
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Finishing move that causes damage per combo point and consumes up to 25 additional Energy to increase damage by up to 100%.

What I understand is if I use the ability with 50 energy it should deal double the tooltip damage.
I tested it a lot of times with 50-100 energy and with 25 energy - the damage difference is almost none even if it crits. The damage increase part is not working properly or the tooltip is wrong.
Proof: http://i.imgur.com/XBjnGKT.jpg - with 25 energy - 21k damage when it is saying 30k damage on tooltip. (also i have my Bloody Dancing Steel proc accidently)
http://i.imgur.com/ng0ibQG.jpg - with 50 energy - 36k when it should deal 2x30k according the tooltip and the bonus effect.
http://i.imgur.com/r9Mj4LF.jpg?1 - Tooltip ingame with my gear.
The Dummy is PVP one with no resilence and no armor. And is affected by pvp power(confirmed by gm).
Tell me what I'm doing wrong. -

Edit:
Well i found two formulas for Ferocious Bite and it seems both should work.
First, the formula on your database is:
(500 + (A value between 315 and 685) * CP + 0.196 * CP * AP-30 + (A value between 315 and 685) * CP + 0.196 * CP * AP) damage (Where CP is combo points on target and AP is your current attack power)
For my attack power 26644 it should deal between 55842.24-59542.24 (with 5 combo points). (Damage should be doubled with 50 energy)
And I barely hit 36k with 50 energy ingame...

Also I found another one from another source which also seems to work (dunno what is the range tho):
316+762*CP+0.196*CP*AP-685+762*CP+0.196*CP*AP damage (Where CP is combo points on target and AP is your current attack power)
For my attack power 26644 it should deal 59473.24 damage (with 5 combo points).
http://pokit.org/get/img/5f3a37255934d36d48b676c349b4e1c1.jpg

Edit 2:
Just tested it again multiple times and still same low damage.
Also just figured out that pvp power also affects the calculations since the dummy is PVP and the current damage of FB is even lower without pvp power.
And when you add the pvp power bonus to the formula the numbers should go even higher than 57512.24-59542.24.
Another thing is FB deals less damage then Mangle and Shred. That is totally wrong for sure.
Tried all formulas on wowhead still higher damage than ingame. I found the old post and the blue clearly confirmed that the damage is wrong. And even with that formula (minimum damage with 25 energy is 35k) damage is still higher than ingame.
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Druid-Feral-Spell-Ferocious-Bite-t348148.html
Can i get a response?

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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 10:29:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Your formula is wrong but the statement is true. FB does way lower dmg than it should. The 3d point of the bug report you mentioned is still buggy:

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3. The dmg formula is wrong. The max dmg that it does now should be the minimum damage done with 25 energy and any extra energy should increase this damage upt to 100% using up to 25 extra energy.
Base formula is: [(336 to 778) + 886*CP + 0.223*CP*AP]*[EN/25] where CP= the number of combo points, AP=Attack Power and EN = the energy used.


This is the formula that worked on blizz untill WOD and is the formula that can be found in various feral addons.
The other problem is that it's not taking in consideration the extra amount of energy used when above 25 energy.




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Post Posted: 12-06-2015, 15:06:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

EnjoyTheFun wrote:

First, the formula on your database is:
(500 + (A value between 315 and 685) * CP + 0.196 * CP * AP-30 + (A value between 315 and 685) * CP + 0.196 * CP * AP) damage (Where CP is combo points on target and AP is your current attack power)
For my attack power 26644 it should deal between 55842.24-59542.24 (with 5 combo points). (Damage should be doubled with 50 energy)
How the hell did you get to 55842 - 59542 damage? The formula has MIN-MAX value, you're adding the MIN + MAX values together (or you already doubled the damage because of energy?)

madau wrote:
The other problem is that it's not taking in consideration the extra amount of energy used when above 25 energy.

Yes it does, but end results are wrong because of wrong formula

madau wrote:
madau wrote:
3. The dmg formula is wrong. The max dmg that it does now should be the minimum damage done with 25 energy and any extra energy should increase this damage upt to 100% using up to 25 extra energy.
Base formula is: [(336 to 778) + 886*CP + 0.223*CP*AP]*[EN/25] where CP= the number of combo points, AP=Attack Power and EN = the energy used.

This is the formula that worked on blizz untill WOD and is the formula that can be found in various feral addons.
Where are you getting this formula from exactly?
wowhead (and freakz spell reader) show 0.196 * AP (19.6% AP bonus), not 0.223 * AP (22.3% AP bonus).

I made some changes to the formula, retest now (with 0.196 AP coeff, not 0.223 AP coeff)


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Post Posted: 13-06-2015, 12:04:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker wrote:
Where are you getting this formula from exactly?
wowhead (and freakz spell reader) show 0.196 * AP (19.6% AP bonus), not 0.223 * AP (22.3% AP bonus).

I made some changes to the formula, retest now (with 0.196 AP coeff, not 0.223 AP coeff)

Now it works fine.
The formula I mentioned was on a previous build posted by wowhead on the same day and was taken by various feral druid addons as the good one, but the formula that you mentioned and implemented now matches the numbers on the tooltip of the spell so it's ok.




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