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Post Posted: 02-11-2011, 16:21:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: Elemental overload si Lava burst
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Orice overload de la shamanul elemental ia 100% bonus din absolut toate talentele si efectele adiacente ale shamanului, drept urmare overloadul de la lava burst trebuie sa aiva 100% crit chance atunci cand targetul este afectat de Flame shock
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se vede in ss ca flame shock era pe target, lava burst a prins crit, overloadu in schimb nu





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Well, first off, the Elemental Overload spells interact with our talents, as expected. What might not be expected is that (based on how Lightning Overload works on Live) they gain the full value of those talents. So figure right there that the numbers are bigger than they look. Concussion's 6% applies, as does Call of Flame's 10%, and Shamanism contributes its full 20% spell power buff. Of course Elemental Mastery's 15% will apply, as will Lava Flows' 24% increased critical damage on a Lava Burst overload - and yes, that overload will critically strike if it hits a target afflicted with Flame Shock. Critical hits with these spells will also gain the 3% Increased Critical Damage that the Meta Gem of today will apply, and there's no reason to believe that said meta gem is gone for Cataclysm.



sursa: http://www.threadmeters.com/sR1Ojk/Elemental_Overload_Too_Much_Reliance/



daca tot va uitati la asta, uitativa la toate overloadurile, ca nici unu nu ia bonus din talente, dar la celelalte nu se poate demonstra asa de usor.



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Post Posted: 02-11-2011, 18:45:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

AS AVEA DE ADAUGAT CA SI DAMAGE-UL INITIAL DE LA LB ESTE CALCULAT GRESIT SI ESTE MIC.

am testat acum cateva sapt ele.pe shaman si am ramas dezamagit de damage (28-29k lb cu toate activate pe dummy de 85 cu 0 resil) 220 spenetr.(hard cap) + 9.2k sp + bl + ue + em si nu ajungeam la 30k
ori shamanism nu merge bine si nu da bonusul de 32% sp ori ceva este gresit calculat la coeficientii de lb.

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Post Posted: 02-11-2011, 19:29:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

nici n-am stat sa intru in detalii de genul, oricum mie formulele lor de calcul la spelluri mi se par utopice, nu sunt hater, e treaba voastra ce faceti, e doar o parere strict personala, dar sa dai cu gear in proportie de 70% vicious 4.1k cu earth shield, cand shamanii pe retail pe 4.0.6 dadeau 10-12k in arene, mi se pare absolut inimaginabil

probabil formula de calcul postata de ei e corecta, poate problema e in alta parte, dar mie imi e foarte greu sa diger chestia asta, pana la urma, ajung la motivul invocat de toti pustii de 14 ani, ca poate merge.... :"4k dadeam cu earth shield pe wotlk" de fapt, chiar mai mult



dar deviez prea mult pe tema asta, macar sa repare amaraciunea asta de overload, ca ne cunoastem clasa, avem ceva iteme, si totusi nu iesim asa cum trebuie in recount, si nu e vina noastra



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Post Posted: 03-11-2011, 13:22:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirm.....Fix it plz


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Post Posted: 03-11-2011, 18:42:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

check this out http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-elemental-Mastery-t106863.html

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Post Posted: 04-11-2011, 03:23:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

te cred nebunnu, dar nu se uita nimeni la post daca nu explici exact care e problema, si cu exemple din afara

in plus din ce m-am uitat eu, dmg-ul este de 75% pe overload, nu 50% cum ai zis tu, si nu calcula din crit, zice clar acolo 75% din normal damage, critul overloadului este ceva cu totul separat, poti sa prinzi 10k light bolt non crit si 13k overload crit pe acelasi cast

oricum, again, m-am uitat la overloaduri si la 10k light bolt dau cam 7.5k overload, asta merge bine acum



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Post Posted: 04-11-2011, 13:45:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Daca faci post fara dovezi clare ti se spune "Clasa x/SPellul x da cum ar trebui sa dea"
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Post Posted: 05-11-2011, 00:13:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

mai multe dovezi decat ce am adus aici nu vad posibil...doar sa se poata repara


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Post Posted: 05-11-2011, 10:30:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

twisted buy some gear am vazut shaman cu 60k lava burst pe dummy 0 armor 0 resil



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Post Posted: 05-11-2011, 22:40:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

in pve, in hoo, pe primul boss, cu toate procurile up, cu well fed, scroll de intellect si volcanic potion, dabea am prins 41k lava burst, si probabil am gear mai bun decat random shaman care l-ai vazut tu la dummy, 60k dmg ar fi putut sa prinda doar pe fulmination, si asta la fel, sa fie crit, si cu ceva procuri de intellect pe el


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Post Posted: 09-11-2011, 00:36:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

we need fix -


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Post Posted: 15-11-2011, 04:15:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

still doesn't work -


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Post Posted: 15-11-2011, 09:17:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

twlsted wrote:
AS AVEA DE ADAUGAT CA SI DAMAGE-UL INITIAL DE LA LB ESTE CALCULAT GRESIT SI ESTE MIC.

am testat acum cateva sapt ele.pe shaman si am ramas dezamagit de damage (28-29k lb cu toate activate pe dummy de 85 cu 0 resil) 220 spenetr.(hard cap) + 9.2k sp + bl + ue + em si nu ajungeam la 30k
ori shamanism nu merge bine si nu da bonusul de 32% sp ori ceva este gresit calculat la coeficientii de lb.


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Post Posted: 15-11-2011, 15:26:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

da, ai luat un 38k lava burst instant, adica cu 15% increased dmg ( vezi ele overload (wowhead link) ) si probabil cu vreo 2 procuri activate, w/e nici nu stau sa explic cat de tare ar trebuii sa dea lava burst pe patchu asta, sa repare ei overloadu si vedem dupa aia


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Post Posted: 02-12-2011, 08:00:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

need fix, e leguma rau shamanu elemental -


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