[FIXED] [Hunter][PvP] Camouflage

krste3000 · Posted: 21-03-2013, 01:23:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yodanny wrote:

Because rogues & ferals can't use any openers on you, you no longer need to camp flare @ the start of an arena match; you can use the flare offensively to try and knock them out while you waltz over to the other team's healer, unable to be attacked until you open.

I think this is a really underrated ability. While it's not something you can use all the time, and it definitely doesn't make hunters a stealth class, you can still use it to get a unique advantage over other players. Plus it means you don't have to go night elf to be invisible, which is sweet, because night elves suck.

Edit:

AND OF COURSE, THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION EVERYONE WAS WONDERING:

Casting Aimed Shot doesn't break camo.

Yeah, that means you can get off an aimed, use rapid fire, and start charging up your next one, all from stealth.

Edit2: As of 4.1, stealthers can use their openers on you while camo'd. I'm disappointed with the change. That was one of the things that made Camo unique.]

You are dissapointed that you can no longer faceroll against stealth classes, how strange.

Inanis wrote:

you can break camo 20 diferent ways? im playing rogue in arenas and I got no issue with hunters... even as rshaman (in my 3rd account) I have no issue breaking camo ..lol just taunting the pet makes the pet break camo xD

Ye right. Its very curious that lots of people that defend the camo bug are suddenly playing rogues and have no problems against hunters. Please do tell how do you break camo without losing your opener?

yodanny · Posted: 21-03-2013, 08:13:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

krste3000 wrote:

You are dissapointed that you can no longer faceroll against stealth classes, how strange.

although you are a sad little shit i will explain why this has to be fixed. Currently hunters have all their key abilities with a positive bug on them wich makes it imposible for a rogue to have a chance(it's not like huters are a counter class to rogues but still). First of all we have the camo bug; you are forced to open with a FoK and get instantly scattered+freeze trap. next we have the bugged traps wich often dissapera of the ground and can't be disarmed. then there is the detterence bug. when you finally close the gap between you and the hunter and you can pump some damage in he deterrence and dodges/parrys all my skills from behind.. wich he shouldn't.

So stop being an ignorant son of a bitch and talk when you have something helpful to say or stfu.

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krste3000 · Posted: 21-03-2013, 10:18:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yodanny wrote:

krste3000 wrote:

You are dissapointed that you can no longer faceroll against stealth classes, how strange.

although you are a sad little shit i will explain why this has to be fixed. Currently hunters have all their key abilities with a positive bug on them wich makes it imposible for a rogue to have a chance(it's not like huters are a counter class to rogues but still). First of all we have the camo bug; you are forced to open with a FoK and get instantly scattered+freeze trap. next we have the bugged traps wich often dissapera of the ground and can't be disarmed. then there is the detterence bug. when you finally close the gap between you and the hunter and you can pump some damage in he deterrence and dodges/parrys all my skills from behind.. wich he shouldn't.

So stop being an ignorant son of a bitch and talk when you have something helpful to say or stfu.

You need to harness that aggression son and do some good in the world.

yodanny · Posted: 21-03-2013, 19:48:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

krste3000 wrote:

yodanny wrote:

krste3000 wrote:

You are dissapointed that you can no longer faceroll against stealth classes, how strange.

although you are a sad little shit i will explain why this has to be fixed. Currently hunters have all their key abilities with a positive bug on them wich makes it imposible for a rogue to have a chance(it's not like huters are a counter class to rogues but still). First of all we have the camo bug; you are forced to open with a FoK and get instantly scattered+freeze trap. next we have the bugged traps wich often dissapera of the ground and can't be disarmed. then there is the detterence bug. when you finally close the gap between you and the hunter and you can pump some damage in he deterrence and dodges/parrys all my skills from behind.. wich he shouldn't.

So stop being an ignorant son of a bitch and talk when you have something helpful to say or stfu.

You need to harness that aggression son and do some good in the world.

i now get what you were saying and again you were talking without knowing what it was about. I did not make the statement you quoted on. that part about camo in english, was from the comment section, in the wowhead spell link,from a hunte who specified all we need to know about camo, and i just coppy/pasted that si everybody can stop theorycrafting on the matter.

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fat3 · Posted: 21-03-2013, 19:56:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yodanny where in deterence tooltip does it says that the hunter takes dmg from behind. That was a few patches ago. It provides 100% miss chance. Only chaos bolt goes through deterence.

Incarnate · Posted: 21-03-2013, 21:32:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

About Deterrence... 1st it was giving 100% parry chance to all attacks coming from the front (I guess it was 1st made like that cuz u know parrieng from behind is not usualy possible)
Then it was buffed to cause u to parry even attacks coming from behind. Yet ofc there was those spells witch were immune to parry like Overpower.
Cuz of that it got buffed again giving u a 100% for melee attacks to miss U so that even those abilities like Overpower can now be prevented by Deterrence.
http://www.wowpedia.org/Deterrence

Idk who came up with this shit that deterrence should not cause attacks from behind to be missed but a proof among with that statement won't be bad.

yodanny · Posted: 22-03-2013, 01:18:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Incarnate wrote:

About Deterrence... 1st it was giving 100% parry chance to all attacks coming from the front (I guess it was 1st made like that cuz u know parrieng from behind is not usualy possible)
Then it was buffed to cause u to parry even attacks coming from behind. Yet ofc there was those spells witch were immune to parry like Overpower.
Cuz of that it got buffed again giving u a 100% for melee attacks to miss U so that even those abilities like Overpower can now be prevented by Deterrence.
http://www.wowpedia.org/Deterrence

Idk who came up with this shit that deterrence should not cause attacks from behind to be missed but a proof among with that statement won't be bad.

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Hunter-PvP-Deterrence-t193634.html

can you please stop talking now? ty. this is soooo offtopic and i was just trying to prove a point not talk about detterence.

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Incarnate · Posted: 22-03-2013, 03:33:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yodanny wrote:

Incarnate wrote:

About Deterrence... 1st it was giving 100% parry chance to all attacks coming from the front (I guess it was 1st made like that cuz u know parrieng from behind is not usualy possible)
Then it was buffed to cause u to parry even attacks coming from behind. Yet ofc there was those spells witch were immune to parry like Overpower.
Cuz of that it got buffed again giving u a 100% for melee attacks to miss U so that even those abilities like Overpower can now be prevented by Deterrence.
http://www.wowpedia.org/Deterrence

Idk who came up with this shit that deterrence should not cause attacks from behind to be missed but a proof among with that statement won't be bad.

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Hunter-PvP-Deterrence-t193634.html

can you please stop talking now? ty. this is soooo offtopic and i was just trying to prove a point not talk about detterence.

I see a topic where all the "proofs" given are from a date prior to 2011-02-08 when the change to deterrence was added.
(Patch 4.0.6 (2011-02-08): Now provides 100% chance for melee attacks to miss instead of 100% parry chance. This means that attacks that cannot be parried, notably some rogue abilities, can now be prevented by Deterrence, and the hunter will gain the benefit of Deterrence even if disarmed.)
All that topic, u linked, is bases on is a single video where a hunter gets backstabed in Deterrence witch could simply be a bug. I mean it's just not a legit proof and I mean in anyway.
I am extremly surprised that this topic is even in 'confirmed'......
And ye, end off topic...
Ontopic - Stealth openers should be able to hit true camo since they are considered melee attacks as well.

krste3000 · Posted: 22-03-2013, 19:30:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Incarnate wrote:

And ye, end off topic...
Ontopic - Stealth openers should be able to hit true camo since they are considered melee attacks as well.

Pretty much so

Groovy · Posted: 23-03-2013, 03:18:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Primul post si asta http://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-2740741.html?#2740741

Break the rules, don't break the law.But *** the law, that's what I always say

Shocker · Posted: 15-04-2013, 03:32:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fixed stealth openers @ camouflage

Groovy wrote:

Primul post si asta http://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-2740741.html?#2740741

Sunt multe acolo, probabil multe merg. Daca e sa faceti bug report faceti doar PE CE NU MERGE

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