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Post Posted: 22-03-2012, 19:03:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nerdstomper wrote:
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Lifebloom's bloom effect has been reduced by 20% in patchul 4.1 asta nu cred ca ai luat in calcul.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2356431


Mosule ala e healul final. Tickurile au ramas neschimbate. Crezi ca nu m-am interesat cand am facut topicul? Raised eyebrow

nu stiu banuiesc ca trebuia sa scrie final bloom sau ceva de genu..cum zici tu

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Post Posted: 22-03-2012, 19:30:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

classtest wrote:
nu stiu banuiesc ca trebuia sa scrie final bloom sau ceva de genu..cum zici tu


Pai asa e cum zic eu. Documenteaza-te pe aici:

http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/206902-lifeblooms-bloom-effect-was-reduced-by-20-in-41-why-did-this-change-ever-happen/
http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/192422-lifebloom-nerfed-cyclone-nerfed/
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1776592580

Si multe altele... Tick e una , bloom e alta.




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Post Posted: 22-03-2012, 19:56:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

slbzh wrote:

Freakz


Blizz

1xlifebloom si sp e cam acelasi pe ambele

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Post Posted: 22-03-2012, 20:05:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da , e de 3 ori mai mare , pe Blizz dai 500, pe freakz dai 1500. Si te mai miri de ce nu ramane oom druidu, cand lifebloom costa mana infima si da heal de 3 ori mai mult... nu imi amintesc cand am vazut ultima data un druid resto care sa faca altceva in arena in afara de a tine 3x lifebloome pe target si fugim in travel form....parca pe wotlk -





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Post Posted: 22-03-2012, 20:07:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bun, insa exista si bugul negativ de la lifebloom: pe blizz de pe 4.1 a fost nerfuit final bloom cu 20%, si la noi da heal cam la fel ca pe blizz:
http://i44.tinypic.com/3355geo.jpg <= 18k da la noi cu 7367 sp, si in ss-u de pe blizz da 17.600 cu 7374 sp.

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Post Posted: 22-03-2012, 20:13:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mr.Faith wrote:
Bun, insa exista si bugul negativ de la lifebloom: pe blizz de pe 4.1 a fost nerfuit final bloom cu 20%, si la noi da heal cam la fel ca pe blizz:


Da final heal este mai mic, insa asa cum specificai si tu mai sus, este topic separat pentru ala, asa ca nu mi`l bagati mie pe gat in topicul asta pentru ca nu ma intereseaza.

LE: Ok am gasit problema si anume coeff de spell healing.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_power_coefficient

[Lifebloom]HoT 6.53% (per tick) (7.84% with [Empowered Rejuvenation])

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=33763 (wowhead link)

Base healul este aproximativ ok, cu ~ 10 mai mare:

Fara talente , base spell healing ~180


Pe specul de feral https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=33873 (wowhead link) ceea ce inseamna ca 1 agil = 1 spell healing


Eu am 5000 agility.

Acum 5200 spell healing * 6.53 sp coeff / 100 = 340 + base heal 228 = 568 insa eu am dat 750

Deci cu cat ai mai mult spell healing cu atat dai mai mult. Pe masura ce intervin si talente/mastery se vede diferenta si mai mult /point resto drood.
PS: Calculele sunt aproximative, posibil sa fi omis ceva, am vrut doar sa arat care ar putea fi problema.




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Post Posted: 23-03-2012, 00:56:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Honourless, mai este o problema in plus: base heal ia si el coeficient de SP din intelect. Pune un item cu intelect sa vezi ca in tooltip creste valoarea la base heal. La noi la 7340 SP base heal e 5554.

Inca o chestie, am impresia ca nu e corect coeficientul de pe wiki sau s-a schimbat si altceva la lifebloom pe blizz, asta in raport cu screenshotul de pe blizz postat de tine:

Bonus 25% heal din Gift of Nature (wowhead link), 7374 SP, coeficient ca pe wiki 6.53%
1.25*(228+(7374*6.53/100))= 886 heal/tick. Deci la 3 stacks ar da 2658...fata de 1562 cat arata in screenshot !

La tine in screenshot dadea 1562 cu 3 stacks la 7374 SP ? pai inseamna ca la 1 stack ar da 520, deci coeficient de 2.54%, si e mai putin decat ai calculat tu ca feral cu 5.2k sp SI FARA 25% increased heal care il ai din gift of nature.

Ceva nu se leaga.

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Post Posted: 23-03-2012, 07:33:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

e outdated coefficientul.

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Post Posted: 23-03-2012, 09:33:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

de observat am observat ca si pe feral druid e f avantajos sa spamezi lifebloom, cand dai cu fuga in ei, si healul e destul de OkE.

Deci sa nu mai spunem de Rdruid, care mai are si mana regen f bun, spam lifebloom, heal imens, nu ii scade mana, no casts, no intrerupt



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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 00:50:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

OK deci :
Heal pe tick la Lifebloom este mai mare ca pe blizz , DAR cand acesta expira si da heal este o diferenta IMENSA

PRINT RETAIL NO BUFFS NO TALENTS NO GEAR NO GLYPHS : http://imageshack.us/f/27/wowscrnshot032312222734.jpg/

PRINT FREAKZ NO BUFFS NO TALENTS NO GEAR NO GLYPHS : http://i41.tinypic.com/2m48593.jpg

Tick Freakz > Tick Retail {la 3 stackuri }
725 > 694


Final heal Freakz <<<< Final heal Retail {la 3 stackuri }
227 < 5665


Asta e bugu daca tot v-ati trezit sa postati .


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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 01:17:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

drodu wrote:
OK deci :
Heal pe tick la Lifebloom este mai mare ca pe blizz , DAR cand acesta expira si da heal este o diferenta IMENSA

PRINT RETAIL NO BUFFS NO TALENTS NO GEAR NO GLYPHS : http://imageshack.us/f/27/wowscrnshot032312222734.jpg/

PRINT FREAKZ NO BUFFS NO TALENTS NO GEAR NO GLYPHS : http://i41.tinypic.com/2m48593.jpg

Tick Freakz > Tick Retail {la 3 stackuri }
725 > 694


Final heal Freakz <<<< Final heal Retail {la 3 stackuri }
227 < 5665


Asta e bugu daca tot v-ati trezit sa postati .


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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 09:23:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

drodu wrote:
OK deci :
Heal pe tick la Lifebloom este mai mare ca pe blizz , DAR cand acesta expira si da heal este o diferenta IMENSA

PRINT RETAIL NO BUFFS NO TALENTS NO GEAR NO GLYPHS : http://imageshack.us/f/27/wowscrnshot032312222734.jpg/

PRINT FREAKZ NO BUFFS NO TALENTS NO GEAR NO GLYPHS : http://i41.tinypic.com/2m48593.jpg

Tick Freakz > Tick Retail {la 3 stackuri }
725 > 694


Final heal Freakz <<<< Final heal Retail {la 3 stackuri }
227 < 5665


Asta e bugu daca tot v-ati trezit sa postati .


Asta e topic in care se discuta healul over time de la Lifebloom. Daca ai impresia ca Lifebloom e underpowered pe Freakz, fa topic separat despre final heal.


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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 09:24:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Si tot plangeti ca druidu se tine numa din lifebloom, dar nu luati in considerare si healul de la rejuvenation, care este mai mic. Acum healul tickurilor de la lifebloom complexeaza si healul rejuvenation'ului, cand se repara sper sa se repare amandoua in acelasi timp, nu sa dea lifebloom heal normal si rejuvenation sa fie la fel, sa dea mai mic.
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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 09:43:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Bai baiatule tu nu realizezi vad ce inseamna sa dai 4k heal pe FIECARE SECUNDA in loc de 1k+. Normal ca orice terminat se tine din lifebloome ca nu trebuie sa castezi aka nu iei intrerupt si aia e toata smecheria. Daca ai da cate 1k pe 3 ticks atunci ar trebuii sa castezi aka ti se mai duce si din mana si mai si iei si intrerupt. Au si celelalte clase o sansa sa omoara un rdrood.
Tu nu iti dai seama cat de grav e pentru ca jucati asa de la inceputul cataclysmului... 3 lifebloome si los dupa stalp cu 1000k de dots pe tine si nu mori = skill .
A da si ca sa vezi cat de penibil esti. Voi plangeti de rejuv care da cu 500 heal mai putin LA FIECARE 3 SECUNDE aka 160 heal mai putin pe secunda, iar dupa vi sa imi spui mie ca 3k pe secunda in + nu e extrem de grav. Nu esti sanatos.




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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 10:27:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

unii sunt asa blocati in apararea clasei lor ca nu isi dau seama cat de penibili sunt.


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