[FIXED] [PVP] pvp power and class specializations

[wrathy]

WoW Freakz link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6490579264
Bug description: PVP power should scale differently over both healing and damage based on the specialization of the character. It should be like this:

Quote:

-Healing specs receive 100% of the healing bonus but 0% of the damage bonus -All other specs receive 100% of the damage bonus and a partial healing bonus depending on class. -Damage specs for Druids, Monks, Paladins, Priests, and Shamans receive a 70% healing bonus. -All other specializations and classes (including tanking) receive a 40% bonus to healing from PvP Power.

This is largely to prevent weird PVP like what is seen now, that Mistweaver Monks go berserk with Jade Lightning killing people (and gaining 150% of that damage as healing), while this should be a heal spec. Or Blood DK's that get insane healing from Bloodworms since they scale on healing pvp power.

Proof:

PVP power on Elemental Shaman

[Shocker]

That is a patch 5.3 change. Since we're starting with 5.1/5.2 gear (dreadful/malevolent), we decided to go with patch 5.3 PVP power data. But still, we already take this in consideration: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-PvP-Power-vs-Healing-t354817.html
50% bonus from PVP Power on all specs. Isn't that already ok?

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[Rep107]

wrathy wrote:

Or Blood DK's that get insane healing from Bloodworms since they scale on healing pvp power.

This is known, and Shocker said in other post that he will make a fix for %based healing according to patch 5.1/5.2.

The problem are Healing specs, they can burst you down because their offensive spells benefit from PvP Power.

Shocker wrote:

50% bonus from PVP Power on all specs. Isn't that already ok?

To balance this situation you should make that Healing specs don't benefit from PvP Power on their Offensive spells at all, because in this patch damage for certain spells got increased.

[Shocker]

Rep107 wrote:

wrathy wrote: Or Blood DK's that get insane healing from Bloodworms since they scale on healing pvp power. This is known, and Shocker said in other post that he will make a fix for %based healing according to patch 5.1/5.2. The problem are Healing specs, they can burst you down because their offensive spells benefit from PvP Power. Shocker wrote: 50% bonus from PVP Power on all specs. Isn't that already ok? To balance this situation you should make that Healing specs don't benefit from PvP Power on their Offensive spells at all, because in this patch damage for certain spells got increased.

What's the logic behind this except random thoughts? I need some blizzlike arguments on why to do something or not

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[Rep107]

Shocker wrote:

What's the logic behind this except random thoughts? I need some blizzlike arguments on why to do something or not

You made 50% bonus from PVP Power on all specs, but that is not how it was in patch 5.1/5.2.
It's not easy to find definite proof, but I will try.

Edited:

Quote:

Patch 5.2.0: PvP Balance, Feral, Windwalker, Retribution, Shadow, Enhancement and Elemental now gain 25% of the bonus healing provided by PvP Power (was 0). Dedicated healers will continue to gain 50% of the bonus healing, and no bonus damage, from PvP Power.

As you can see 50% was for dedicated healing specs and only 25% for hybrid specs, for dedicated dps classes remained 0% bonus healing from pvp power.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_5.2.0

[Magicqtz]

The part with bonus damage for healers is active on Freakz. I get killed by every healer, they do dmg as dps/rdps or more.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

[Calarasu]

Magicqtz wrote:

The part with bonus damage for healers is active on Freakz. I get killed by every healer, they do dmg as dps/rdps or more.

RO. Da asa este , eu sunt unul din ei cateodata ,

Ceva nu este ok , cel putin pentru clasa mea unde o passiva si un main spell nu merg , sunt nevoit de cele mai multe ori sa intru resto in BG ca sa fac damage si nici sa nu mor asa repede.

Pentru ca pe resto Lava Burst da cu @70k+ iar pe elemental 35-40k , si fire elementalul da pe resto cu 60-70k iar pe elemental 30k , Elemental Blast da si el mai mult pe resto decat pe Elemental.
Pe langa aceste lucruri imagineaza-ti amicul meu de joc ce se intampla cand lasi jos si Stormlash totem care mai copie si ala nu stiu cat % din spell , 40% parca , ce se intampla in final.
Dubios , pentru ca ar fi trebuit sa fie invers cifrele.

Eu zic ca este un pic mai OP resto ..... asta in cazul meu, nu discut despre alte clase de heal , pentru ca nu stiu.

Partea 2-a

La nivelul gearului meu , eu nu pot sa omor nici un fel de healer in 1v1 , da heal mult peste damageul primit, iar daca se apuca de ofensiva, ma omoara intr-un final. Si la randul meu sunt clase care nu au nici o sansa in fata mea pe resto, eu imi dau heal si ii omoara totemele si doturile.

Astea sunt pb-mele cu care m-am confruntat eu.



ENG. Yes so it is, I'm one of them sometimes

Something is not ok, at last for my class where a passive and a main spell ar not working good, i'm often compelled to go resto in BG to do damage and shall not die so soon.

Because the resto Lava Burst hit for @ 70k + and on the elemental hit for 35-40k, and fire Elemental on resto hit with 60-70k and on the elemental speck for 30k, Elemental Blast hit more on resto to.
Besides these things my buddy imagine what happens when you let down Stormlash totem that copy... do not know how much of the spell%, 40% like , what happens in the end?
Doubtful, because it would have to be opposite numbers of damageing....

I say it is a little OP resto ..... it for me, i do not talk about other healing classes, because i do not know.

Part 2

At the level of my gear, I can not kill any healer in 1v1, they heal much more than the damage receivied, and if they grab offensive, eventually killing me. And in my turn are classes that have no chance against my resto, I heal myself , totems and dots ar killing him meantime.

These are my pb-which I faced myself.

[Shocker]

Done some changes:
- dedicated healers (resto, holy, etc) receive 50% bonus healing and 0% bonus damage from PVP Power
- dedicated DPS (destruction, fury, etc) receive 0% bonus healing and 100% bonus damage from PVP Power
- hybrid healers/dps (Balance, Feral, Windwalker, Retribution, Shadow, Enhancement and Elemental) receive 25% bonus healing and 100% bonus damage from PVP Power

This info should be blizzlike according to retail patch notes. Waiting for feedback

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[Shocker]

I'll consider this fixed, repost if any other bugs

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