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Post Posted: 01-10-2011, 15:22:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: Rage
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Se primeste PREA MULT.
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Nu mai conteaza ce damage dai, proof:
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Patch 4.0.1 (2010-10-12): Rage is being normalized so that its generation is no longer based on damage done by auto-attacks. Each auto-attack will provide a set amount of Rage, with off-hand weapons granting 50% of the Rage main-hand weapons do. Haste will allow Rage to generate more rapidly by increasing attack speed. In addition, while taking damage, the amount of Rage generated will now be based on the Warrior's health rather than the opponent's level. The essence of this change is to improve the scaling that occurs with Warrior gear. With Warriors balanced around the top tiers of items, we've found that the class tends to underperform more drastically than others in lower-quality items. These changes should correct that.


Formula rage-ului primit ar trebui sa fie 6.5*BaseWeaponSpeed conform Elitist Jerks link

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Q: How does Rage generation work now?
A: The amount of Rage you generate on a successful hit is now simply 6.5 * base weapon speed, and half that for offhand hits. Damage, Crit, fast vs slow weapons, glancing blows, dodges and parries no longer affect your rate of Rage generation. Only Hit and Haste will have an effect.


DAR, am facut foarte multe teste (Thanks to Crashy, pe caracterul lui @ blizz), si formula adevarata este 7.5*BaseWeaponSpeed.

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Post Posted: 01-10-2011, 17:00:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

mda si mie energy la rogue e buguit. dupa niste teste pe care leam facut pe characteru lu unu depe blizz am calculat ca trebui sa mi se regenereze 90 energy pe secunda..

 
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Post Posted: 04-10-2011, 13:58:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

facusem si eu un post asemanator dar nu m-a bagat nimeni in seama
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Post Posted: 04-10-2011, 16:46:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Zohlomg wrote:
Formula rage-ului primit ar trebui sa fie 6.5*BaseWeaponSpeed conform Elitist Jerks link

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Q: How does Rage generation work now?
A: The amount of Rage you generate on a successful hit is now simply 6.5 * base weapon speed, and half that for offhand hits. Damage, Crit, fast vs slow weapons, glancing blows, dodges and parries no longer affect your rate of Rage generation. Only Hit and Haste will have an effect.



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DAR, am facut foarte multe teste (Thanks to Crashy, pe caracterul lui @ blizz), si formula adevarata este 7.5*BaseWeaponSpeed.

also, ai putea sa aduci dovezi din acele "foarte multe teste" de pe blizz

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Post Posted: 04-10-2011, 17:00:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

N-am postat aiurea, am vorbit cu shocker, a zis ca nu trebuie sa aduc ~30 prints.
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Post Posted: 04-10-2011, 21:39:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Also,If the attack is a critical strike, it will generate 200% Rage.
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Post Posted: 04-10-2011, 22:05:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

De unde ai luat asta? Arata-mi link.
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Post Posted: 04-10-2011, 22:25:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/04/05/rage-normalization-in-cataclysm/
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Post Posted: 06-10-2011, 15:59:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Stormillidan wrote:
http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/04/05/rage-normalization-in-cataclysm/


daca dai search pe google cu : " Also,If the attack is a critical strike, it will generate 200% Rage " iti arata zeci de site-uri care spun ca critical da 200%rage, nu e numai 1 singur site....

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Post Posted: 07-10-2011, 16:51:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am facut un test si am constatat ca rageul e buguit NUMAI pe PvE,cand dau pe playeri imi da 24 rage...iar eu am 3.6speed...adica 3.6*6.5=23.4...vad ca pe PvE imi da 40 si ceva...testat pe dummy si pe Wild Boar din afara orgrimmarului
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Post Posted: 07-10-2011, 17:01:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Human rage - too much when they fight warriors
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Post Posted: 10-10-2011, 12:58:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Din cate stiam eu,rage primesti si atunci cand te ataca ceva,nu doar cand lovesti.Ati luat in considerare factorul acesta?Daca esti intr-o arena,nu iei rage numai din ce dai tu,iei si din ce dau aia pe tine.Si cam la fel se aplica si in PvE unde mai toti bossii au cate un aoe damage.
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Post Posted: 10-10-2011, 14:00:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da ficatuman, am citit formulele de rage de pe freakz. sunt ramase de pe WOTLK.

Daca aveti informatii oficiale despre Rage cand esti atacat post, momentan nu avem/nu stiu de unde sa iau.

Rage formula e inca aia de pe wotlk, din care beneficiezi de damage-ul dat.

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Post Posted: 10-10-2011, 15:18:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok am sa testez treaba cu damage-ul care creste rage si revin cu screenshot-uri.

LE: OK am sa incep cu screenshoturile intai.

Momentul 1:Cand am 0 rage,intr-un duel cu warlockul:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/ragemomentul1.jpg/

Momentul 2:Cand sunt atacat(daca aveti indoieli,priviti oponentul,nu are niciun dot,nici nimic si armele mele nici macar nu sunt scoase):http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/511/ragemomentul2.jpg/


Informatie oficiala luata de pe site-ul wowwiki.com: "Rage is the Warrior's and Bear Form Druid's version of the caster's Mana bar or the Rogue's Energy bar, but works differently in several ways. Rage is required for the execution of their abilities, although standard attacks don't depend on it at all. By default the rage bar is empty, and builds only by being hit, by dealing damage, or by using certain abilties. When out of combat, Rage drains or depletes at a constant rate. The size of the rage pool and the degeneration rate are both constant - they do not increase or decrease with levels, and are not related to any statistics. "

La rage-ul primit in functie de damage-ul primit de la alti playeri,mentionez ca intr-adevar din 4 hituri cam asa(din care 2 crituri) mi-a facut rage bar full.Oricum ideea este urmatoarea:chiar daca bara se umple rapid,indiferent de situatia despre care discutam(PvP,PvE) totul se petrece foarte repede,warriorul da si primeste damage,incat este practic insesizabil si greu de spus daca face mult prea repede.In 3 secunde in care se ciocnesc doua "forte" ca sa le spun asa,se petrec destul de multe si nu e anormal sa fie rage bar full.

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