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Post Posted: 24-12-2011, 15:32:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

vexwow1 wrote:
cu riscu de a lua ban,intreb?fixurile se fac dupa formule de calcul sau dupa screenshot s?
Nu totul se rezuma la formule simpla gen 0.x * SPELL POWER. Daca ar fi asa s-ar rezolva toate cat ai clipi din degete


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Setemotion wrote:
e facut sa dea healul corect cu talente si glyphs. nu cred ca nu joaca nimeni fara alea -.

E facut sa dea corect cu talente?.

Cu talente eu dau la 7224 spellpower- 4070
Pe retail fara talente dupa calculele de mai sus reiese ca dai 3975, cu aproape 800 spellpower mai putin.(totul e uptodate)
"Din ce am citit healu primit per tick de la spell ar iesi din healu initial(1307)+ 37% din spell poweru total.
Cu alte cuvinte daca as avea 6671 spellpower healul primit de mine ar fi 1307+2668=3975 per tick(fara talente puse) "

just a hunch: cred ca rejuvenation s.a stricat cand ati vrut sa reparati swiftmendu(crezand ca inca da heal ca pe wotlk- cum am facut eu mai sus)- si ati micsorat healu la rejuvenation doar ca sa dea swiftmend mai putin, de asta swiftmend da valori diferite cu rejuve pe target fata de regrouth pe target.(NU SUNT 100% SIGUR, just a hunch repet).

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Post Posted: 01-03-2012, 12:23:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Daca formulele sunt corecte , bump.

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Post Posted: 08-03-2012, 21:54:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu stiu cat de corecte sunt calculele dar are dreptate cumva, drept dovada pe freakz dau in full vicious ~3240 pe tick cu rejuv la 7360 spell power fara reduce 10% , deci ar ajunge cam la 2900 pe tick in arena, testat fara alt hot deci neafectat de mastery:


Acum comparati cu healu pe care il da druidul acesta pe blizz cu gear asemanator in arena (afectat de 10% reduce), la min 4:22 se vede clar ca are doar rejuv si da constant 3894 pe tick (ar fi in jur de 4300 pe tick in afara arenei) si crit 7788 (ambele neafectate de mastery ca si in testul meu).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LACY4zr72Ko:


Deasemenea se observa ca healul initial dat de talentul Gift of the Earthmother are valoarea de ~2300 iar pe freakz ajunge pe undeva in jur de 1800.

Posibil sa aiba un pic mai mult spell power de la procuri si buful de la petul warlockului dar in nici un caz asta nu justifica diferenta de aproape 1k pe tick dintre freakz si blizz. Ca sa va convingeti incercati sa stacati cat mai mult spell power, cu trinkete cu tot si nu veti ajunge la 4300 in afara arenei (nici cei cu armura buguita nu cred ca vor reusi).

Acum ramana la latitudinea staffului freakz daca vor lua ce am postat drept dovada sau nu, dar mie mi se pare destul de clar!

PS: Da, imi apar clasa ca doar nu o sa astept sa o faca altii pentru mine, sustin si repararea bugurilor pozitive deasemenea cum e cel cu armura.




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Post Posted: 08-03-2012, 22:03:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tipul din video da 3,9k in arena normal tick, eu acum la 7,2k spellpower dau 3,8k in afara arenei(freakz)....de crituri nu mai spun, nu trec de 6k crit nici de mastery afectat, multam de dovezi.
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Post Posted: 08-03-2012, 22:05:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

bine cyd a testat setemotion pe druidu lui de pe blizz,sunt curios si eu ce a testat..noi suntem doar noobi si ne aparam clasa.


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Post Posted: 08-03-2012, 22:08:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tu esti unul din cei care a ramas cu talentele buguite de pe wotlk, de asta dai 3,8k, un druid facut dupa da exact cum dau eu in printul anterior (~3200 pe tick).

De precizat ar mai fi ca la noi pe freakz criturile nu dau 2x heal cum ar trebui, la un tick de 3200 iei cam 4800 crit, fac print si la asta daca nu ma credeti! Pe video se vede clar 7788=2x3894!






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Post Posted: 08-03-2012, 22:15:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

nu ,am worgen..este adevarat ceea ce ai zis tu,aia vroiam sa zic in postu de mai sus..ideea e ca si eo in arena dau in jur de 2.9k cu rejuv ceea ce e aberant.


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Post Posted: 08-03-2012, 23:56:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

vexwow1 wrote:
nu ,am worgen..este adevarat ceea ce ai zis tu,aia vroiam sa zic in postu de mai sus..ideea e ca si eo in arena dau in jur de 2.9k cu rejuv ceea ce e aberant.

Ma adresam lui Ally ca el a zis ca da 3,8k.




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Post Posted: 09-03-2012, 00:01:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

oricum am gasit o chestie foarte utila pe un site acuma fac cu radical toate calculele pt healing spells.


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Post Posted: 09-03-2012, 00:19:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Puteti face ce calcule vreti voi, pana nu se vor reseta talentele la toti druizii, calculele sunt inutile deoarece tot vor exista diferente intre druizii de pe wotlk si cei creati pe cata.


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neoras1 wrote:
Tu esti unul din cei care a ramas cu talentele buguite de pe wotlk, de asta dai 3,8k, un druid facut dupa da exact cum dau eu in printul anterior (~3200 pe tick).

De precizat ar mai fi ca la noi pe freakz criturile nu dau 2x heal cum ar trebui, la un tick de 3200 iei cam 4800 crit, fac print si la asta daca nu ma credeti! Pe video se vede clar 7788=2x3894!


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All healing critical strikes now heal for 2 times a normal heal (+100%), up from 1.5 times a normal heal (+50%).

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Post Posted: 09-03-2012, 02:52:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu am acum sa va dau un print, insa druidu resto nu da prea putin heal, mie pe Warrior cu 6% heal increase taken pe 4.3.3 primesc de la druidul asta cam 3800 heal/tick din rejuvenation...si 20k final boom la lifebloom noncrit. Faza buna e ca Resto Druidul nu prea ramane fara mana -.
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Post Posted: 09-03-2012, 07:22:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Allybetrayer wrote:
Setemotion wrote:
e facut sa dea healul corect cu talente si glyphs. nu cred ca nu joaca nimeni fara alea -.

E facut sa dea corect cu talente?.

Cu talente eu dau la 7224 spellpower- 4070
Pe retail fara talente dupa calculele de mai sus reiese ca dai 3975, cu aproape 800 spellpower mai putin.(totul e uptodate)
"Din ce am citit healu primit per tick de la spell ar iesi din healu initial(1307)+ 37% din spell poweru total.
Cu alte cuvinte daca as avea 6671 spellpower healul primit de mine ar fi 1307+2668=3975 per tick(fara talente puse) "

just a hunch: cred ca rejuvenation s.a stricat cand ati vrut sa reparati swiftmendu(crezand ca inca da heal ca pe wotlk- cum am facut eu mai sus)- si ati micsorat healu la rejuvenation doar ca sa dea swiftmend mai putin, de asta swiftmend da valori diferite cu rejuve pe target fata de regrouth pe target.(NU SUNT 100% SIGUR, just a hunch repet).


nu stiu ce calcule ai facut tu :/

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vexwow1 wrote:
bine cyd a testat setemotion pe druidu lui de pe blizz,sunt curios si eu ce a testat..noi suntem doar noobi si ne aparam clasa.

ce bine imi pare ca ai realizat.


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