[REJECTED] [Druid][PvP][PvE] Weapon Dmg Scale

[nseries]

Nu conteazã, atâta timp cat da 5k hit in loc de 2 e bug.(exemplu)

[Raster]

Nu ma intereseaza Dr.Damage or the likes of him.

[nseries]

nseries wrote:

dps: Quote: ((Min Weapon Damage + Max Weapon Damage) / 2) / Weapon Speed http://www.wowwiki.com/Damage_per_second Revin cu weapon Dmg Le: am gãsit aici asta : Quote: base_weapon_damage + weapon_speed * Attack Power / 14 Pentru white hits, si mai sus Quote: normalized_damage = base_weapon_damage + (X * Attack Power / 14) where X is: 1.7 for daggers 2.4 for other one-handed weapons 3.3 for two-handed weapons 2.8 for ranged weapons Le2: Poate are cineva formula ptr base weapon Dmg ca asta ii trebuie.Sau daca știi normalized Dmg de la un item , aflii base Dmg, insa va fi class related.

Le scrisesem aici, insa o formula stabilã pentru base wep Dmg nu am gãsit.

[crasher]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XL-9D7cwTTo:



iaca de 4.2 patch warlock vs feral..deci feral nu bate asa de tare ca aici.poate si asta e proof,oricum inca gasesc.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=t06tseb2fZc:


deci 22k crit in full resil.Aici mai tare da la freakz.

[nseries]

crasher wrote:

iaca de 4.2 patch warlock vs feral..deci feral nu bate asa de tare ca aici.poate si asta e proof,oricum inca gasesc. deci 22k crit in full resil.Aici mai tare da la freakz.

Sa iti spun ceva, daca pui vids care nu ajuta la nimic, postezi ptr rep.

Am scris mai sus, daca știți vreun site care are formula exactã pentru wep base Dmg postati-l.

@Mr.Faith , Raster ;

[crasher]

Nu ma uit la rep,deloc nu ma uit,eu vreau sa ajut cu ce pot.

Cum video nu e proof?asta e proof la aceea ca damage aici la ferals si altele melee - foarte mare decit ar trebui.

[nseries]

crasher wrote:

Nu ma uit la rep,deloc nu ma uit,eu vreau sa ajut cu ce pot. Cum video nu e proof?asta e proof la aceea ca damage aici la ferals si altele melee - foarte mare decit ar trebui.

Crezi ca se poate un video pus ca formula?

[bigblackjoey]

Uiti o problema , pai tu compari pe aia de pe blizz cu "gladiatorii" nostri de pe Freakz ? Aia sunt praf , nu au o treaba , de aceea nu dau damageul ala.

Sa fim seriosi...degeaba te agiti , e logica treaba ca feralul are damage imens , dar nu se stie unde este problema..sau nu vor sa spuna
In concluzie , trebuie sa o lasi balta. E ciudat cum pana acum nu prea erau asa multi ferali high rating , si instant cu 4.3 au aparut toti. Posibil sa fie vreo explozie de skill

[nseries]

bigblackjoey wrote:

Posibil sa fie vreo explozie de skill

Hahahaha )

Orium Vad ca esti paralel cu topicul.Aici e vorba de wep dmg care mareste (la melee de obicei)orice hit dat.
Stick to the topic pls.

[Chwchwlwlz]

si feralul la anumite abilitati nu ia din wep damagE...? deci he got a point...

[nseries]

Pai si feralu da magic spells?

[Chwchwlwlz]

ce are wep damage cu magic spells?

[nseries]

Eram ironic.Hai gata cu offtopicu , cine știe formula la base wep Dmg min si max sa posteze.

[Mr.Faith]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapon_damage

Quote:

Base weapon damage is a weapon's inherent damage, displayed in the weapon's tooltip.

Ce formula vrei ma la base weapon damage ? practic se refera la damage-ul armei respective.

“No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.”
Not for millions…not for glory…not for fame. For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.

[Pufarinaa]

nseries wrote:

dps: Quote: ((Min Weapon Damage + Max Weapon Damage) / 2) / Weapon Speed http://www.wowwiki.com/Damage_per_second Revin cu weapon Dmg Le: am gãsit aici asta : Quote: base_weapon_damage + weapon_speed * Attack Power / 14 Pentru white hits, si mai sus Quote: normalized_damage = base_weapon_damage + (X * Attack Power / 14) where X is: 1.7 for daggers 2.4 for other one-handed weapons 3.3 for two-handed weapons 2.8 for ranged weapons Le2: Poate are cineva formula ptr base weapon Dmg ca asta ii trebuie.Sau daca știi normalized Dmg de la un item , aflii base Dmg, insa va fi class related.

Nu ai de ce sa pui normalized damage la druidul in forme (urs sau pisica) deoarece el are o valoare fixa de weapon speed. (1 pentru pisica si 2.5 pentru urs)

Quote:

Druid: All weapon damage based attacks, since druids in bear and cat forms have fixed weapon speeds.

Sursa

Formula pentru weapon damage este urmatoarea: Weapon Damage = (Weapon DPS + AP/14) * Weapon Speed . Sursa aici.
Deci pentru pisica formula pentru Average Weapon Damage este urmatoarea: (Weapon DPS + AP/14)*1
Pentru urs este urmatoarea: (Weapon DPS + AP/14)*2.5, iar daca aveti talent bagat in Master Shapeshifter, devine urmatoarea: [(Weapon DPS + AP/14)*2.5]*1.04

Formula pentru Weapon DPS este: [(Min Weapon Damage + Max Weapon Damage) / 2] / Weapon Speed
Formula pentru DPS care apare in character sheet este: pisica: Weapon DPS + AP/14

Formula pentru MINIM Weapon Damage:
pisica: [(Weapon low-end damage)/(Weapon speed) + AP/14]*1
urs: [(Weapon low-end damage)/(Weapon speed) + AP/14]*2.5 sau [(Weapon low-end damage)/(Weapon speed) + AP/14]*2.5*1.04 daca ai Master Shapeshifter

Formula pentru Maxim Weapon Damage:
pisica: [(Weapon high-end damage)/(Weapon speed) + AP/14]*1
urs: [(Weapon high-end damage)/(Weapon speed) + AP/14]*2.5 sau [(Weapon high-end damage)/(Weapon speed) + AP/14]*2.5*1.04 daca ai Master Shapeshifter


Sa dam niste exemple: Sa zicem ca ai Cataclysmic Gladiator's Pike si un attack power de 28 000
Pisica: MINIM - 4532 / 3.6 + 20 000 / 14 = 3258.88
MAXIM - 6799 / 3.6 + 20 000 / 14 = 3888.11

Urs: MINIM - (4532 / 3.6 + 20 000 / 14) * 2.5*1.04 = 8147.2
MAXIM - 6799 / 3.6 + 20 000 / 14 = 9720.275

Sa zicem ca dam Ravage:
Minim damage: 3258.88 * 625% + 42 = 20410
Maxim damage: 3888.11*625% + 42 = 24342.685

Atentie ! - aceastea sunt valori calculate cu 0 armor


Hai sa vedem si ingame acum - ca arma am Ranseur of Hatred

2142 - 3214 damage | attack speed 3.6
Weapon DPS: (2142 +3214)/2/3.6 = 744

Bear form: - 16051 Attack Power

Character Sheet:

• Minimum damage: 4491
  
• Maximum damage: 4738

Calcule:

• Minimum damage: (2142/3.6 + 16051/14)*2.5*1.04 = (595 + 1146.5)*2.5*1.04 = 4527.9
  
• Maximum damage: (3214/3.6 + 16051/14)*2.5*1.04 = (892.77 + 1146.5)*2.5*1.04 = 5302.12
  
• Average: (744+ 16051/2)*2.5*1.04 = 4915.3

Recount:



Cat form: - 18 517 Attack Power

Character Sheet:

• Minimum damage: 1917
  
• Maximum damage: 2216

Calcule:

• Minimum damage: 2142/3.6 + 18 517/14 = 1917.64
  
• Maximum damage: 3214/3.6 + 18 517/14 = 2215.41
  
• Average: 744 + 18517/17 = 2066.64

Se poate vedea ca valorile sunt exacte

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Daca am gresit cu ceva va rog sa ma corectati !