[REJECTED] [Warrior] [Protection] Threat generation

[Warbike]

Bug description: Premise: I tested only Protection Warrior since actually i have only this one as Tank spec and i notice issues with some spell's threat generation. I used Skada to make these tests. I couldn't install Omen on my client.

First of all i made this test to check Autoattack threat and i found out that it work perfectly. I made another test on level 110 dummy and i noticed that it doesn't generate enough threat.
I immediatelly though it was a bug related dummy only, so i made a third test on 110 NPCs and i confirmed the issue (proof).
Autoattack doesn't generate enough threat even on NPCs with few levels higher than 110 (proof).

Now i'm going to report all spells which don't generate enough threat. Each spell have this issue even in previous tests made with Autoattack.

Devastator:

Spoiler:

-Damage done by Autoattack: 42054
-Damage done by Devastator: 119130
-Threat generated by Autoattack: 420540
-Threat generated by Devastator: 539670(tot threat) - 420540(Autoattack threat) = 119130 (it's x1 the damage done)
-Threat that should be generated: 42054*10 + 119130*10 = 1611840 at least

I made this calculation since we know that Autoattack work fine on dummy with "skull" level. Obviously you can't use Devastator without using Autoattack.
(proof)

Shield Slam:

Spoiler:

-Damage done: 202816
-Threat generated: 203300 (around x1 the damage done)
-Threat that should be generated: 202816 * 10 = 2028160 at least
(proof)

Shield Slam + Shield Block with Heavy Repercussion(talent):

Spoiler:

-Damage done: 324506
-Threat generated: 325000 (around x1 the damage done)
-Threat that should be generated: 324506 * 10 = 3245060 at least
(proof)

Thunder Clap:

Spoiler:

-Damage done: 160509
-Threat generated: 297000 (around x1,85 the damage done)
-Threat that should be generated: 160509 * 10 = 1605090 at least
(proof)

Just to clarify if it happen only on dummies, i made a test for Autoattack in dungeon; click here to see it.

How it should work: In according with wowhead:

Quote:

As a baseline, Tanks currently generate 10 times more Threat than DPS. However, with an artifact equipped, Tanks can generate between 14 and 20 times more Threat than DPS. Auto attacks deal around 14 times more Threat while the Thrash Bleed deals 20 times more Threat than DPS. As a simple example, if a DPS deals 16k damage, they will receive 16k Threat while: • In Legion, a Tank receives around 220k-320k Threat on the meter.

I used this formula to do calculations:

Code:

Threat = Damage dealt * 10;

Thanks for your patience!

[Garn]

We are back on the threat generation reports.

Obviously its an addon/dummy issue, if you were to generate 1x threat you would have never been able to tank any boss a dps does more than 500k dps.

Show me how you lose aggro to someone who does 2x or 5x your dps and I will consider your report.



Posting a new BUG REPORT has to follow the template you get when opening a new topic or it can be instantly rejected.

Freakz Lich King 25H

[Warbike]

Hi Garn, thanks to quick answer to my topic.
I'm sure it's not an addon/dummy issue because the meter have found low threat only for these specific skills.
Revenge, Heroic Throw, Neltharion's Fury, Heroic Leap, Shockwave, Stormbolt etc... all other skills work fine. I tested it on dummy and various kind of enemies to make sure it wasn't just a fake bug.

I made another topic about this issue in 7.1.5(the topic has been moved to "trash" category by Shocker because 7.2.5 update) and it was confirmed by a GM(at least he was when confirmed my topic).

While tanking you have to start a fight by using Battle Cry + Revenge and get help by spamming Taunt(increased threat generation for few seconds). If you start with other spells, unless you're best DPS of your party, you lose aggro and to keep it you have to spam as much damage as you can(Personal experience).

What you said can be test easily, that's what i would have to do:
1) I go near Trash NPC/Boss and pull it with Thunder Clap(following main topic we assume it deal 160509 damage, so it should generate 1605090 threat);
2) Bring with me Another powerful class, we assume an Hunter, that will hit the Boss with an empowered Windburst(DPS generate x1 threat, so dealing 1 mln dmg it will generate 1 mln threat);
3) If Thunder Clap work generate at least 1 mln of threat it will be an addon/dummy issue as you said.

(This is even how i found out issue and decided to test it on dummy)

One more proof:

Spoiler:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oYuRtQHxViU:

P.S. If you won't test it, i will do it tomorrow since, actually, i can't.

Thanks for patience

[Cryve]

yeah, i played tank this day and i can confirm something is wrong with threth generation on him, https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=71&&name=defensive-stance this show 900% but i don`t know if this is good or bad

[Garn]

I ran some tests and I could not see anything wrong.

If a non-tank spec is dealing 500k damage to a target, my 100k Thunder Clap will always take the aggro, same as the other abilities.

Implying that protection warrior has only 100% threat generation on abilities is wrong as someone mention above.

Rejected.


Posting a new BUG REPORT has to follow the template you get when opening a new topic or it can be instantly rejected.

Freakz Lich King 25H