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grindelwald
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Posted: 05-12-2012, 17:45:21
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[4.3.4] Death Knight PVE Tanking Guide
Cuprins:
Click pe unul dintre titluri pentru a afla informatia dorita
Patch changes
Stats
Talents and glyphs
Gems, enchants si reforge
Food & Flasks
Profesii
Macro's & Add-ons
Patch changes
Schimbarile aduse clasei odata cu schimbarea patch-ului:
4.1
Quote:
General:
All non-damaging interrupts off the global cooldown will now always hit the target. This includes Pummel, Kick, Mind Freeze, Rebuke, Skull Bash, Counterspell, Wind Shear, Solar Beam, Silencing Shot, and related player pet abilities.
Dark Simulacrum now works on numerous additional spells in dungeon encounters.
Raise Ally has been redesigned to be a battle resurrection, analogous to Rebirth. It is instant cast, but costs 50 Runic Power to use, and has a 10-minute cooldown. It shares the same global battle resurrection cap with Rebirth and Soulstone.
Talents:
Blood Shield now only works while in Blood Presence.
Death Strike self-healing no longer generates threat.
4.2
Quote:
Stats:
Death knights, paladins, and warriors no longer receive any bonus to their chance to dodge from Agility. Their base chance to dodge is now a fixed 5%.
Death knights, paladins, and warriors now receive 27% of their Strength bonuses as parry rating, up from 25%. This conversion still only applies to Strength above and beyond their base Strength.
Glyphs:
Glyph of Dark Succor has been redesigned. Rather than placing a 15% maximum health floor on Death Strike healing while in Frost or Unholy Presence, it causes the next Death Strike within 15 seconds after killing a foe that yields experience or Honor Points to heal for at least 20% of the death knight's maximum health (still requires Frost or Unholy Presence).
4.3
Quote:
General:
Death Strike now heals the death knight whether or not the attack misses, or is dodged/parried. As a result of this change, Death Strike no longer refunds its rune cost if it fails to hit the target, as the death knight will still receive the healing effect.
Blood Presence now provides an armor bonus of 55%, up from 30%.
Buffs:
Abomination's Might: The melee attack power bonus from this raid buff has been increased to 10/20%, up from 5/10%. The ranged attack power bonus remains 5/10%.
Talents:
Blade Barrier has been redesigned. It now passively reduces damage taken.
Bone Shield now has 6 charges, up from 4.
Veteran of the Third War now reduces the cooldown of Outbreak by 30 seconds.
Stats
In Cataclysm Blood Death Knight-ul s-a impartit in Mastery si Stamina ca main stats. Va recomand sa jucati unde va descurcati cel mai bine, stackand stamina la inceput pt low/pre raid gear, urmand sa stackati mastery pentru BIS gear. Personal, imi place sa joc la Mastery, imi ofera mai mult survivability in combat datorita
Blood Shield
.
Rase:
-
Horde:
Tauren, deoarece e cel mai bun din punct de vedere al racialei:
Cultivation: Herbalism skill increased by 15 and you gather herbs faster than normal herbalists.
Endurance: Base Health increased by 5%.
Nature Resistance: Increases your resistance to harmful Nature effects.
War Stomp: Stuns up to 5 enemies within 8 yds for 2 sec.
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Alliance:
Night Elf
Shadowmeld: Activate to slip into the shadows, reducing the chance for enemies to detect your presence. Lasts until cancelled or upon moving. Any threat is restored versus enemies still in combat upon cancellation of this effect, 2 minute cooldown.
Quickness: Reduces the chance that melee and ranged attackers will hit you by 2%.
Nature Resistance: Increases your resistance to harmful Nature effects.
Prioritati:
Mastery > Stamina > Dodge = Parry > 26 Expertise => 8% Melee Hit
Supravietuieste, asta insemnand sa folosesti toate spell-urile disponibile, precum AMS, Icebound fortitude, Rune tap (daca ai glyphul ajuti si ceilalti playeri astfel), trinketele cu use la CD.
Pentru threat foloseste cat mai multe Rune Strikes.
Tine Blood Shield-ul up folosind des Death Strike.
Heart Strike cand nu ai RP, RP pentru Death Strike sau cand vrei sa faci AoE Threat.
Sunt cateva puncte care sunt optionale si le poti folosi cum crezi de cuviinta, cele mai comune alegeri fiind Endless Winter pentru un instant intrerupt sau Morbidity pentru more AOE threat.
Prime glyphs:
Glyph of Heart Strike, Glyph of Rune Strike, Glyph of Death Strike.
Major glyphs:
Glyph of Anti-Magic Shell, Glyph of Dancing Rune Weapon, Glyph of Rune Tap, Glyph of Bone Shield (15% increased movement speed pentru situatii cand veti fi nevoiti sa faceti kite la boss/mobi).
Minor glyphs:
Glyph of Blood Tap, Glyph of Horn of Winter, Glyph of Resilient Grip.
Ingame spec:
Code:
/run t,p,a={1,23,33,42,53,62,91,103,112,122,132,142,161,171,153,183,201,2,3,23,33,61,}SetPreviewPrimaryTalentTree(t[1],GetActiveTalentGroup())for i=1,#t do a=t[i]if a<9 then p=a else AddPreviewTalentPoints(p,floor(a/10),a%10)end end
Lichborne spec:
Code:
/run t,p,a={1,23,33,42,52,62,91,103,122,132,142,161,171,153,183,201,2,13,22,51,72,3,32,}SetPreviewPrimaryTalentTree(t[1],GetActiveTalentGroup())for i=1,#t do a=t[i]if a<9 then p=a else AddPreviewTalentPoints(p,floor(a/10),a%10)end end
Gems, enchants si reforge
Gems:
Meta:
Austere Shadowspirit Diamond
Stamina Tanking:
-
Blue Sockets
:
Solid Deepholm Iolite
/
Solid Ocean Sapphire
-
Yellow Sockets
:
Puissant Elven Peridot
/
Puissant Dream Emerald
-
Red Sockets
:
Defender's Shadow Spinel
/
Defender's Demonseye
Mastery Tanking:
-
Blue Sockets
:
Puissant Elven Peridot
/
Puissant Dream Emerald
-
Yellow Sockets
:
Fractured Lightstone
/
Fractured Amberjewel
-
Red Sockets
:
Fine Lava Coral
/
Fine Ember Topaz
La inceput, mats pentru gemuri epice nu vor fi deoarece ele pica in containere ce sunt dropate de bossii din Dragon Soul.
Enchants:
Head
-
Arcanum of the Earthen Ring
/
Arcanum of the Dragonmaw
(95 Stam / 35 Dodge)
Back
-
250 Armor
Shoulder
-
Greater Inscription of Unbreakable Quartz
/
Enchant Inscription
Chest
-
Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats
/
Enchant Chest - Greater Stamina
Bracers
-
Enchant Bracer - Dodge
Gloves
-
Enchant Gloves - Greater Mastery
Belt
-
Ebonsteel Belt Buckle
Legs
-
Charscale Leg Armor
Feet
-
Enchant Boots - Lavawalker
Weapon
-
Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle
Reforge:
Pentru
Mastery:
Item ce are Avoidance si hit/exp ->Reforge hit/exp in Mastery
Item ce are Mastery si hit/exp -> Reforge hit/exp in Avoidance stat
Item ce are Mastery si Avoidance -> Nu da reforge, decat daca ai nevoie sa egalezi diferenta dintre parry si dodge ratings
Item ce are 2 Avoidance stats -> Reforge la un Avoidance stat in Mastery
Item ce are Mastery + oricare alt stat -> Reforge la DPS stat in Avoidance si incearca sa iei un item mai bun.
Item ce are Avoidance + oricare alt stat -> Reforge la DPS stat in Mastery si incearca sa iei un item mai bun.
Incearca sa tii Dodge si Parry la acelasi procentaj.
Pentru
Avoidance (Dodge si Parry):
Item ce are Avoidance si hit/exp ->Reforge hit/exp in Dodge/Parry
Item ce are Mastery si hit/exp -> Reforge hit/exp in Dodge/Parry
Item ce are Mastery si Avoidance -> Reforge mastery in Dodge/Parry
Item ce are 2 Avoidance stats -> Lasa-l asa cum e.
Item ce are oricare alt stat -> Reforge stat-ul respectiv si incearca sa iei un item mai bun.
Food & Flasks
Flask:
Flask of Steelskin
Elixir:
Elixir of the Master
+
Prismatic Elixir (90 magic resist)
Potion:
Earthen Potion
Food:
Lavascale Minestrone
,
Fortune Cookie
,
Seafood Magnifique Feast
.
Profesii
Quote:
4.3 added epic gems to the game. These lower the value of JC and increase the value of BS. However: Not everybody has a full set of epic gems yet and depending on how many you have, JC' and BS' value stays the same.
Blacksmithing:
2 sockete in plus, => 120 Stamina / 80 Mastery Rating/ 80 Avoidance Rating. Dupa introducerea gemurilor epice valoarea BS-ului a crescut considerabil datorita gemurilor epice ce pot fi puse in orice socket.
Leatherworking:
Draconic Embossment - Stamina
195 Stamina spre deosebire de enchantul normal de 40 Stamina.
Engineering:
Quickflip Deflection Plates
300 Armor (1500 Armor cu uptime de 20%)
,
Grounded Plasma Shield
ce ocupa
Ebonsteel Belt Buckle
Alchemy:
Flask of Steelskin
450 in loc de 300 Stamina = 150 stamina in plus
Consider ca doar aceste profesii pot fi folositoare pentru acest patch, iar celelalte ofera un bonus mai mic fiind dispensabile.
Macro's & Add-ons
Macro:
Code:
#showtooltip Lichborne
/cast Lichborne;
/cast [@player] Death Coil
Code:
#showtooltip
/castsequence Raise Dead, Death Pact
Code:
/Cast Vampiric Blood
/Cast Rune Tap
/Cast Bone Shield
/cast Anti-Magic Shell
/use TrinketName
Add-ons:
Blood Shield Tracker
OmniCC
Weak Auras
IceHUD
Icdbars
BigWigs
/
DeadlyBossMods
GTFO
Omen threat meter
Add-ons optionale:
Bartender
Prat
MikScrollingBattleText
Shadowed Unit Frames
BIS items:
Head
-
Necrotic Boneplate Faceguard
Neck
-
Guardspike Choker
Shoulder
-
Necrotic Boneplate Shoulderguards
Back
-
Indefatigable Greatcloak
Chest
-
Necrotic Boneplate Chestguard
Wrist
-
Graveheart Bracers
Hands
-
Necrotic Boneplate Handguards
Waist
-
Goriona's Collar
/
Forgesmelter Waistplate
Legs
-
Necrotic Boneplate Legguards
Boots
-
Stillheart Warboots
Ring
-
Hardheart Ring
Ring
-
Breathstealer Band
/
Signet of the Resolute
Trinket
-
Indomitable Pride
Trinket
-
Soulshifter Vortex
Weapon
-
Experimental Specimen Slicer
Este mult mai buna decat
Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps
deoarece are stats-uri secundare, mai ales ca are Mastery cu duiumul, stat ce este foarte bun pe DK Blood.
Resources:
manaflask
,
mmo-champion
,
elitistjerks
,
Riggnaros
@
BloodLegion
Astept sfaturi, critici
Reputatia e binevenita oricand.
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Zohlomg
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Posted: 05-12-2012, 22:25:14
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Schimba culoarea
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MagicName
[ HATER !!!]
Posted: 06-12-2012, 01:22:09
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Bun tutorialu' sa speram ca o sa mearga Raise Ally
La talent as juca in Endless Winter sa nu consume runic power , acum pe 4.0.6 schimb talentele intre unu fara Endless Winter si unu cu Endless Winter
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LoRd_DaRK
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Posted: 17-12-2012, 06:55:23
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+ rep
a fost de mare ajutor.. ( asi fi vrut sa iti dau mai mult... dar mno asta e)
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respect_dani
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Posted: 17-12-2012, 20:07:18
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Scurt si la subiect. GJ! (
Imi place
ca ai pus si sursele de unde te-ai inspirat; ar fi bine sa faca toti asa dar nah` unora le place sa-si atribuie munca altuia in totalitate.)
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Free
[Sefu' Papadiilor]
Posted: 09-03-2013, 18:47:17
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foarte folositor pt incepataori astia sunt primi pasi pe care trebuie sa ai faca un player care abea acum descopera death knightul blood
cred ca ar trebui sa mai adaugi : starting gear pe care il poti obtine pe freakz daca ai gold si justice points
plus cum sa ti un boss pe tine
strategii pt bossi viitori (sa fim preventivi totusi )
diferitele specuri pe care le poti aborda
poate si niste chestii mai avansate pe care le poti destainuii
keybinduri gen
asta
pentru moderatori : cand o sa actualizati lista de ghiduri? totusi au trecut 2 luni trebuie sa traga un player un semnal de alarma ca sa v-a miscati
scz pt punctuatie (anticipat pt hateri )
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Erudax
[Spear of the Church]
Posted: 18-04-2013, 07:01:09
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Din cate stiu eu, dodge are diminishing returns mult mai mari ca parry, ceea ce ar trebui sa puna parry>dodge.
Doar parerea mea.
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ciont
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Posted: 18-04-2013, 08:50:43
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frumos
desi nu stiu ce sa spun in legatura cu Gurthalak
nu mai buna e ce`a de la Yor`saj
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grindelwald
[ENS e baza!]
Posted: 18-04-2013, 10:06:49
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Poza e orientativa, tipul facuse de multe ori Madness, este specificat unde am pus link la iteme BIS, trebuia sa fii putin mai atent:D
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soulkreep
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Posted: 21-04-2013, 12:19:20
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Ok deci obiectiile mele sunt urmatoarele :
Desi ai pus macroul de lichborn nu ai prezentat un spec cu lichborn si nici Glyph of Death's Embrace .
La elixir atunci cand joci cu elixirul de mastery poti sa dai si Elixir of Deep Earth sau Prismatic Elixir in acelasi timp .
Enchantul de tankat Rune of the Fallen crusader ? swordshattering ftw
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MagicName
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Posted: 21-04-2013, 13:01:15
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* cough* Stoneskin Gargoyle *cough*, difera de oricine cum vrea sa joace ori Stoneskin ori SwordShattering
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Snoppy
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Posted: 21-04-2013, 14:48:28
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soulkreep wrote:
Ok deci obiectiile mele sunt urmatoarele :
Desi ai pus macroul de lichborn nu ai prezentat un spec cu lichborn si nici Glyph of Death's Embrace .
La elixir atunci cand joci cu elixirul de mastery poti sa dai si Elixir of Deep Earth sau Prismatic Elixir in acelasi timp .
Enchantul de tankat Rune of the Fallen crusader ? swordshattering ftw
da. Si iti zic si de ce. Ca dk blood e imposibil sa mori daca joci la mastery ai un shield absorbtion imens. Defensive-urile te ajuta si in plus tank-related, dk blood da cam cel mai mare
dmg
done aoe/one target.
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Kinook
[Pastor Penticostal]
Posted: 23-04-2013, 11:17:27
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e buguit absorbul? ca stackez cate 150k in ET si tot iau damage
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soulkreep
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Posted: 23-04-2013, 12:53:09
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absoarbe physical dmg. tu iei magic dmg
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Snoppy
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Posted: 23-04-2013, 13:03:38
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Kinook wrote:
e buguit absorbul? ca stackez cate 150k in ET si tot iau damage
in et e aprox 80% magic
dmg
( cu exceptia lui baine cu melee swings)
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Kinook
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Posted: 23-04-2013, 13:09:31
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soulkreep wrote:
absoarbe physical dmg. tu iei magic dmg
am inteles, multumesc
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vaeda
[Unbreakable]
Posted: 26-04-2013, 08:06:19
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de ce guthalak? axe-ul de la yor este mult mai bun, da mastery in prostie! gurthalak nu da nimic,blood este tank nu dps
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grindelwald
[ENS e baza!]
Posted: 26-04-2013, 08:44:56
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grindelwald wrote:
Poza e orientativa, tipul facuse de multe ori Madness, este specificat unde am pus link la iteme BIS, trebuia sa fii putin mai atent:D
Ai fost si tu atent la guide in afara de poze?
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neffy
[Mos Craciun e Hater]
Posted: 01-05-2013, 03:32:46
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Parerea mea e ca cel mai potrivit build pentru freakz in momentul de fata este :
Fara Endless WInter(intrerupt) ca nu ai pt ce-l folosi... si un punct in death grip( Unholy Command - poti sa-l folosesti ca taunt si banuesc ca alea 5 secunde sunt mai importante decat 4 secunde de Epidemic )
@Glyphs
Prime:
-Nu inteleg rostul la Glyph of rune strike in locul la glyph of death strike (DS fiind cel mai folosit skill si cu damage probabil de 2 ori + mai mare decat RS)
Major
- Folosesti glyph of blood sheild ... De ce? nu inteleg... poti folosi Glyph of anti magic sheild (+2 sec la AmS inseamna mult intr`un encounter de YOR SaHJ)
La Minor
- nu prea conteaza desi eu optez pentru Glyph of horn of winter in loc de Blood tap / resilient grip ... +1 min la buff poate conta daca nu ti-ai facut un obicei (precum mine ) sa-l bufezi la cd
@Enchants
Bracers - Enchant Bracer - Dodge .. AI spus ca pe patchu asta se joaca la mastery/ stamina so ... +40 stamina encahnt de pe WOTLK e still BIS in my opinion
Weapon - Rune of the Fallen Crusader ... DIscutabil ... depinde cum ai restul statsurilor organizate si depinde si de encounterul in care esti .
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53323
(wowhead link)
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=62158
(wowhead link)
sunt folositoare asemeni celei zise de tine.
Offtopic @
http://www.wowhead.com/item=77191/gurthalak-voice-of-the-deeps
AND
http://www.wowhead.com/item=78403
cu siguranta cea de-a doua
..
Acestea este parerea mea personala .. daca doriti o luati in seama , daca , nu
In rest toate bune si frumoase . GJ
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Jason
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Posted: 01-05-2013, 05:56:30
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+1 la ce a spus Neffy, mai putin la partea cu Agility in loc de Armor pe back, avoidance-ul ala mi se pare insignificabil, armura in schimb conteaza.
Axe de la Yorshaj clar peste Gurthalak, Socket + Mastery = Win
Enchanturile de pe Wrist,Hands si Feet diferentiaza in functie de alegerea fiecaruia, fie ca tankeaza axat pe Stamina sau Avoidance/Mastery. Hands,Wrist,Feet = 44stamina cu kit de LW preferabil zic eu.
Felicitari pt tutorial, e destul de bun.
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Suffer
[Creep]
Posted: 01-05-2013, 10:37:28
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Agility pe DK nelfy? good joke citeste patch notes, agility nu mai da dodge pe dk, pala, warr de aici => 250 armor pe back e singurul enchant ramas ca si viabil.E o gluma gliph of rune strike, niste crit e o mizerie, nu e nimic mai bun decat gliph of death strike si pentru primul spec ia sa incerci gliph of death and decay, sa vedem care e mai bun mai ales la un encounter yor'saj unde ai adds cu gramada in black.O sa inceapa unii cu ah joci cum vrei si chestii de astea, da joci cum vrei la rotatie gems si cateva enchants gen mastery vs stamina.Asa si ca sa iti dau link cu patch notes:
Quote:
Citat:
Stats:
Death knights, paladins, and warriors no longer receive any bonus to their chance to dodge from Agility. Their base chance to dodge is now a fixed 5%.
Death knights, paladins, and warriors now receive 27% of their Strength bonuses as parry rating, up from 25%. This conversion still only applies to Strength above and beyond their base Strength.
Sper sa nu interpretati gresit unele remarci, nu stau sa postez prea des aici fiindca apar foarte multi hateri si alte chestii de genul.Oricum jucati cum vreti blood dk'ul pana la urma.
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neffy
[Mos Craciun e Hater]
Posted: 01-05-2013, 12:37:32
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Am dat remove la partea aia .. nu stiu de ce ramasesem cu impresia aia de pe 4.0.6
and btw @SUffer nu-i nevoie sa te inrosesti ca poate iti explodeaza vreo vena
Dupa cum am spus
neffy wrote:
Acestea este parerea mea personala .. daca doriti o luati in seama , daca nu , nu
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Suffer
[Creep]
Posted: 01-05-2013, 14:25:56
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neffy wrote:
Am dat remove la partea aia .. nu stiu de ce ramasesem cu impresia aia de pe 4.0.6
and btw @SUffer nu-i nevoie sa te inrosesti ca poate iti explodeaza vreo vena
Dupa cum am spus
neffy wrote:
Acestea este parerea mea personala .. daca doriti o luati in seama , daca , nu
eu nu te iau in seama oricum, dar sunt altii mai nestiutori care o fac si le poluezi capul cu tampenii, de asta am dat reply si mersi ca esti sarcastic, "glumetule".Srry de off-topic.
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grindelwald
[ENS e baza!]
Posted: 01-05-2013, 20:57:37
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@ Neffy, iti multumesc pentru parere, e foarte folositoare, o sa iti dau argumente cand o sa ma intorc din vacanta ca nu prea am timp acum, iar in legatura cu enchantul de pe arma iti multumesc, am avut impresia ca am trecut Stoneskin, o sa specific mai detaliat cand ma intorc.
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soulkreep
[Banned user]
Posted: 04-05-2013, 21:53:09
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neffy wrote:
Parerea mea e ca cel mai potrivit build pentru freakz in momentul de fata este :
Fara Endless WInter(intrerupt) ca nu ai pt ce-l folosi... si un punct in death grip( Unholy Command - poti sa-l folosesti ca taunt si banuesc ca alea 5 secunde sunt mai importante decat 4 secunde de Epidemic )
@Glyphs
Prime:
-Nu inteleg rostul la Glyph of rune strike in locul la glyph of death strike (DS fiind cel mai folosit skill si cu damage probabil de 2 ori + mai mare decat RS)
Major
- Folosesti glyph of blood sheild ... De ce? nu inteleg... poti folosi Glyph of anti magic sheild (+2 sec la AmS inseamna mult intr`un encounter de YOR SaHJ)
La Minor
- nu prea conteaza desi eu optez pentru Glyph of horn of winter in loc de Blood tap / resilient grip ... +1 min la buff poate conta daca nu ti-ai facut un obicei (precum mine ) sa-l bufezi la cd
@Enchants
Bracers - Enchant Bracer - Dodge .. AI spus ca pe patchu asta se joaca la mastery/ stamina so ... +40 stamina encahnt de pe WOTLK e still BIS in my opinion
Weapon - Rune of the Fallen Crusader ... DIscutabil ... depinde cum ai restul statsurilor organizate si depinde si de encounterul in care esti .
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53323
(wowhead link)
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=62158
(wowhead link)
sunt folositoare asemeni celei zise de tine.
Offtopic @
http://www.wowhead.com/item=77191/gurthalak-voice-of-the-deeps
AND
http://www.wowhead.com/item=78403
cu siguranta cea de-a doua
..
Acestea este parerea mea personala .. daca doriti o luati in seama , daca , nu
In rest toate bune si frumoase . GJ
In legatura cu specul punctele din epidemic chiar sunt valoroase deoarece diseasurile tin 21 de secunde iar outbreak are cd 30 de secunde .Asta inseamna ca fie trebuie sa irosesti rune sa aplici diseasurile normal fie sa stai 9 secunde fara atack speed si
dmg
reduce .
Glyph of rune strike este luat in defavoare la death strike pentru ca in mod uzual nu ai un nivel foarte mare de rp .Eu personal fac pooling la rp doar cand planuiesc sa dau dancing rune weapon ,death pact sau lichborne .
Glyph of anti magic shell nu e chiar asa folositor pe cat pare .Deoarece absoarbe
dmg
pana la un anumit cap intr'un encounter ca yor'shaj unde primesti magic
dmg
cu galeata nu o sa tina 7 secunde pe tine o sa expire mult mai devreme .
Patchu asta nu se joaca la nici o stamina .Singurul scop defensiv al staminei este sa nu iti iei oneshot .
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csombe
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Posted: 13-05-2013, 17:45:39
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GG, genial guide
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neffy
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Posted: 13-05-2013, 23:19:41
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@soulkreep .. ma faci sa rad
Epidemic ca sa ce? dai oubreak pe target si la primu heal care se da pe tank , healeru fura agro . 1-2 k dps in plus ? te **** pe el .. pe cand lichbourne ? 8x + death coil unde cu death coil dai si 80k crit self heal ? isnt better ? as a defensive cooldown ... ca esti tank ?
stamina nu ajuta?? la yor sajh cand iei 70k pe tick ? pe 25h ? cu ce ajuta mastery acolo ?? ca nui phisical damage
buna asta ....
+ca cu ds dai heal procent din
HP
tau
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soulkreep
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Posted: 14-05-2013, 00:32:04
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Dar nu am spus sa scoti din lichborn doamne fereste .Scoti din bladed armor. Deci orice tank trebuie sa tina 2 debufuri pe target si anume 10%
dmg
reduce (care la dk este dat de
scarlet fever
) si 20% attack speed reduce (care la dk este dat de
frost fever
.Deci tu in permanenta trebuie sa ai cele doua diseasuri pe target .
Cum am mai spus diseasurile au durata normala de 21 sec iar outbreak are cd 30 de secunde ceea ce inseamna ca tu trebuie sa acoperi gaura aia de 9 secunde aplincand diseasurile manual (deci pierzand rune pt ds) sau stand 9 secunde fara debufuri (ceea ce este o prostie) . Nu are nici o legatura cu ceea ce spui tu acolo de furat agro ...
Te'ai uitat vreodata la un recount de damage taken pe tank la yor'shaj? Mai mult de jumate din
dmg
luat de tank e melee deci da mastery ajuta.
Stamina in sine nu face absolut nimic sa reduca
dmg
pe care il iei pe cand mastery va reduce din physical
dmg
si deci
dmg
total (spell + melee) va fi mai mic.
In momentul cand tu incepi sa iti iei cate 70 k per tick totul tine de healerii tai si de cum iti dai cd;urile .Daca healerii nu fac fata sau nu stii sa iti dai cd'urile tu oricum vei muri indiferent cata stamina ai .(ba chiar mai repede decat un tank cu mai mult avoidance/mitigation)
Dap cu ds dai 7% din hp'ul tau (minimum) SAU 20% din
dmg
care l'ai primit in ultimele 5 secunde si cum ca tank incasezi marea majoritatea a dmg'ului din raid vei avea rezultate mai bune bagand mastery in loc de stamina .
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piciupitik
[Mentally Stable]
Posted: 25-07-2013, 23:25:49
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uhm.... si abilitatile tankului, rotatia lui....
sti tu: deathstrike, heartstrike, alea alea... in rest guide-ul mi se pare bun si il recomand.
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ciont
[Basketball Nabzor]
Posted: 26-07-2013, 20:08:06
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aici sunt de acord cu soulkreep
nu vreau sa dezvalui cat
dmg
incasez eu si inca un tank la yorsaj/hagara.. sir estul bosiilor
jucand amandoi la mastery
crede`ma am jucat la tot felu si mai ales la stamina si nu se merita stamina
mai nou ruleaza Mastery
da, cand v`a fi reparat set4 plus Ds atunci mai emrita sa joci la stamina dar nu prea mult
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BlaCkMinD
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Posted: 16-08-2013, 20:01:16
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O rotatie ceva?Cu ce spelluri sa dai?Playstyle?
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ciont
[Basketball Nabzor]
Posted: 16-08-2013, 21:17:08
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nu exista rotatie.. Death strike, Heart Strike Rune Strike si iara Ds sh cam tot asa... incearca clc dk in caz k nu te descurci
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soulkreep
[Banned user]
Posted: 17-08-2013, 07:46:41
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Din cate stiu eu exista 2 stiluri de joc pentru blood dk:
1 Folosesti mai mult heart strike si runestrike lasand 2 rune pt death strike iar death strike il folosesti preponderent doar atunci cand ai luat dmg. Avantajele acestui stil sunt dps mai mare si surviability mai mare.
2 Spamezi death strike ca si cand n'ar mai exista ziua de maine si lasi mereu o blood rune libera.Runestrike cand ai rp mare sau nu poti da ds. Avantajul acestui stil este overall
dmg
taken mai mic
La noi cel mai popular este al 2'lea
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vaeda
[Unbreakable]
Posted: 27-08-2013, 14:29:05
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totusi, am o intrebare! nimeni nu s-a gandit la souldrinker? si damage si health
http://www.wowhead.com/item=78479
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ciont
[Basketball Nabzor]
Posted: 27-08-2013, 17:47:34
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dp tank nu este ok
ce`a mai ok este arma de la yor`saj
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