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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 01:59:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mai nou toti faceti calcule dar intr-un final nici 1 nu vine cu dovezi concludente. Toti faceti calcule cum va taie pe voi capul, cum credeti ca e bine, cum vi se scoala mai pe romaneste dar nici unul nu face ceva calumea. Nu ai nevoie de prea multa scoala sa faci 2 lucruri. Verifici coeficientii actuali ai spelului in DB si dupa acest lucru ii corectezi daca este cazul.



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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 02:16:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

{ [ 200% (///=200%///) + 30% din 200% (///=60%///) ] (///=260%///) + 40% din 260% } = 260% + 104% = 364%
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200*100/100 + 30*200/100 + 40*260/100 = 200+60+104 = 364
Acum explicaþi ce e greºit în formula asta.
Cel mai simplu ar fi sã calculaþi cât dã ºi cât ar trebui fãrã nici un talent/item. Apoi luaþi fiecare talent care dã x% increase pe rând ºi vedeþi care nu merge.


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myt42xxx wrote:
{ [ 200% (///=200%///) + 30% din 200% (///=60%///) ] (///=260%///) + 40% din 260% } = 260% + 104% = 364%
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200/100*100+30*200/100+40*260/100=200+60+104=364
Acum explicaþi ce e greºit în formula asta.



https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53 200% (///=200%///) + 30% din 200% (///=60%///) ] (///=260%///) + 40% din 260%
De unde ai scos acel 104% ?


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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 02:21:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31220&&name=sinister-calling

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Posturi unite automat, 19-11-2011, 02:24:12

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https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31220&&name=sinister-calling

OK si acel 30% de l-ai adaugat la weapon damage?


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Depinde. Aici mã gândeam ºi eu dacã e aºa sau nu, dar þinând cont cã talentele se calculeazã separat, eu cred cã e corect cum am zis eu.
Anyway 340% nu diferã foarte mult de 364%
Acea diferenþã de ~10k nu vine din acest 24%.


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ai adaugat https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=79141&&name=opportunity la weapon damage care e cu totul altcv. E damageul final de la backstab nu cel cu care se calculeaza damageul initial.

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Post Posted: 19-11-2011, 02:27:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

LE: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=79141&&name=opportunity ?

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Cel mai simplu ar fi sã calculaþi cât dã ºi cât ar trebui fãrã nici un talent/item. Apoi luaþi fiecare talent care dã x% increase pe rând ºi vedeþi care nu merge.

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Posturi unite automat, 19-11-2011, 02:31:42

WPd e influentat doar de https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31220&&name=sinister-calling daca mai e influentat de cv va rog sa ma corectati
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=79141&&name=opportunity se adauga la damageul final.

EX: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53 (wowhead link) 200% wd
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31220&&name=sinister-calling 240% wd
((40% din 200) + 200% WD + 1634 ) * https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=79141&&name=opportunity


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Existã la matematicã o proprietate a adunãrii în raport cu înmulþirea. Aceasta se numeºte distributivitate.

(a+b)*30% = a*30% + b*30%
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myt42xxx wrote:
{ [ 200% (///=200%///) + 30% din 200% (///=60%///) ] (///=260%///) + 40% din 260% } = 260% + 104% = 364%
aka
200*100/100 + 30*200/100 + 40*260/100 = 200+60+104 = 364
Acum explicaþi ce e greºit în formula asta.


Myt , talentele de dmg increase, nu se aduna la wep dmg cum faci tu. Este total gresit. Daca se calculau cum faci tu, eu ca feral ajungeam la 1000% wepp dmg la abilitati. Se ia frumos cum am facut eu , calculezi in functie de formula wowhead/freakz, vezi cat iti da, iar dupa adaugi pe rand dmg increase din talente la rezultatul obtinut. Daca un talent/debuff iti da 30% dmg increase, asta nu inseamna ca iti creste cu 30% wepp dmg care il ai.

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myt42xxx wrote:
Existã la matematicã o proprietate a adunãrii în raport cu înmulþirea. Aceasta se numeºte distributivitate.

(a+b)*30% = a*30% + b*30%
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((40% din 200) + 200% WD + 1634 ) * https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=79141&&name=opportunity
nu asta ar fi formula corecta de calcul? am spus mai sus ce reprezinta fiecare


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Depinde. Aici mã gândeam ºi eu dacã e aºa sau nu, dar þinând cont cã talentele se calculeazã separat, eu cred cã e corect cum am zis eu.
Anyway 340% nu diferã foarte mult de 364%
Acea diferenþã de ~10k nu vine din acest 24%.


Ce ziceam .. facem calcule pe crezut.

Ca fapt divers daca nu aveti ce face.. read http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/183449-patch-406-ptr-build-13482-sub-buffs/ . In mare parte vorbesc prostii dar sunt unele posturi in care se zice clar ca uneori Backstab crits can be HUGE. (chiar mai mari decat cele de la Ambush ) I'm going to sleep ... succes cu matematica.




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Myt , talentele de dmg increase, nu se aduna la wep dmg cum faci tu. Este total gresit. Daca se calculau cum faci tu, eu ca feral ajungeam la 1000% wepp dmg la abilitati. Se ia frumos cum am facut eu , calculezi in functie de formula wowhead/freakz, vezi cat iti da, iar dupa adaugi pe rand dmg increase din talente la rezultatul obtinut. Daca un talent/debuff iti da 30% dmg increase, asta nu inseamna ca iti creste cu 30% wepp dmg care il ai.

Citeºte postul meu anterior. Este acelaºi lucru sã faci (weapon_damage + spell_damage) * x% sau sã faci weapon_damage * x% + spell_damage * x%.


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Whysomadbro wrote:
myt42xxx wrote:
{ [ 200% (///=200%///) + 30% din 200% (///=60%///) ] (///=260%///) + 40% din 260% } = 260% + 104% = 364%
aka
200*100/100 + 30*200/100 + 40*260/100 = 200+60+104 = 364
Acum explicaþi ce e greºit în formula asta.


Myt , talentele de dmg increase, nu se aduna la wep dmg cum faci tu. Este total gresit. Daca se calculau cum faci tu, eu ca feral ajungeam la 1000% wepp dmg la abilitati. Se ia frumos cum am facut eu , calculezi in functie de formula wowhead/freakz, vezi cat iti da, iar dupa adaugi pe rand dmg increase din talente la rezultatul obtinut. Daca un talent/debuff iti da 30% dmg increase, asta nu inseamna ca iti creste cu 30% wepp dmg care il ai.


Sincer nu ma pricep la matematica eu din clasa a 9-a nu am mai facut matematica (termin la uman anu asta) dar sunt destul de inteligent incat sa fiu de acord cu Whysomadbro

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Whysomadbro wrote:
Myt , talentele de dmg increase, nu se aduna la wep dmg cum faci tu. Este total gresit. Daca se calculau cum faci tu, eu ca feral ajungeam la 1000% wepp dmg la abilitati. Se ia frumos cum am facut eu , calculezi in functie de formula wowhead/freakz, vezi cat iti da, iar dupa adaugi pe rand dmg increase din talente la rezultatul obtinut. Daca un talent/debuff iti da 30% dmg increase, asta nu inseamna ca iti creste cu 30% wepp dmg care il ai.

Citeºte postul meu anterior. Este acelaºi lucru sã faci (weapon_damage + spell_damage) * x% sau sã faci weapon_damage * x% + spell_damage * x%.

Atunci daca e cum ai spus tu Myth se aplica de 2 ori https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=79141&&name=opportunity odata la weapon damage si odata la spell damage


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