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                      Shaman Elemental PVE 4.3.4 Guide






            1. De ce elemental?

            2. Rase compatibile

            3. Spec.

            4. Prioritati

            5. Gems & Enchants si Stats.

            6. Macros




            1. De ce elemental?




            2. Clase Compatibile






            3. Spec.


          Dupa parerea mea, cel mai bun spec ar fi acesta
          Code:
           /run t,p,a={1,13,22,33,42,62,73,82,91,112,123,131,141,161,173,182,191,2,12,33,62,72,3,}SetPreviewPrimaryTalentTree(t[1],GetActiveTalentGroup())for i=1,#t do a=t[i]if a<9 then p=a else AddPreviewTalentPoints(p,floor(a/10),a%10)end end
          . Daca credeti ca alt spec e mai bun, va rog lasati comment in comment section. -

    Ca Glyphuri ar fi asa: Glyph of Lava Burst, Glyph of Flame Shock, Glyph of Lighting Bolt si inca una la alegere.


            4. Prioritati


          Rotatia shamanului elemental este destul de simpla, bazandu-se mai mult pe prioritati.

    Mai intai am sa va spun prioritatile: Toteme (de precizat ca totemele se vor pune in functie de rqidul in care va aflati): Fire: Searing Totem / Fire elemental totem

    Earth: Strenght of Earth Totem / sau daca aveti dk in raid puneti totemul care da 4k armor, si invers: daca aveti paladin ce tine Devotion Aura puneti Strenght of the Earth totem

    Water: Mana Spring Totem

    Air: Wrath of Air Totem/ Windfury Totem

    Alta prioritate ar fi tinerea neintrerupta a spellului Lightning Shield si Flametongue Weapon. Daca nu aveti acest shield pus, nu va asteptati la un damage prea mare. -

    Cea mai importanta parte este mentinerea spellului Flame Shock pe target. Cand este activat pe target, lava burst are 100% crit chance pe targetul respectiv.

    Si acum, prioritatile spellurilor de damage :


    a) Flame Shock - este DoT-ul (damage over time) pe care il vom tine in permanenta pe target. Acest lucru fiind foarte important ca atunci cand dam Lava Burst, sa fie crit.
    b) Lava Burst- este spellul care trebuie dat atunci cand nu mai are cd
    c) Lightning Bolt - il vom da atunci cand avem cooldown la Lava Burst, sau nu avem 7-9 stackuri de Lightning Shield pentru a da Fulmination. LB (lightning bolt) mai poarta denumirea de FILLER.
    d) Earth Shock - Acest spell il vom da doar atunci cand avem 7-9 stackuri de Lightning Shield datorita talentului Fulmination.

e) Elemental Mastery - il vom da in momentul de full dps (burst).
FAQ

1. Daca avem fulmination procuit, dar nu avem Flame Shock pe target, ce vom da mai intai?
Daca aveti Fulmination, dar nu aveti Flame Shock, neaparat dati Flame shock pe target.

2. Folosim Unleash Elements?
Eu, pana acum, foloseam acest spell, dar HrN a explicat de ce sa NU-l folosim, avand un motiv foarte bun. Deci nu, nu-l folosim.

            [size=18]5. Gems, Enchants + Stats.

    Shaman-ul Elemental se bazeaza pe 3 stats, dar mai intai trebuie 16-17% hit. Acest hit il puteti face ori din spirit (datorita talentului) ori din hit popriu zis. Celelalte stats importante sunt: Intellect (normal), Haste si Mastery. Mastery, in cazul elemental-ui, mareste sansa dea a da cu un spell inca un spell instant care are un damage egal cu 75% din damageul initial, dar haste scade cast time-ul spellurilor si adauga tick-uri la flame shock, deci haste mai mult, fulmination mai des. Asa ca cel mai bine e sa le aveti balansate.

    Gems: Meta: Burning Shadowspirit Diamond, Blue: Purified Shadow Spinel, Red: Brilliant Queen's Garnet, Yellow: Reckelss Lava Coral / Skillful Lava Coral.

    Enchants: Nu am sa va zic toate enchanturile care si cum. Va spun doar atat: Mastery, Haste si Intellect cat se poate. Pe arma puneti Power torrent sau Hurricane.

            6. Macros

    Eu, personal folosesc un singur macro si anume Burst Macro.

Acest macro suna asa:
Code:
/cast Elemental Mastery
/cast Unleash Elements
/use Trinket Name (daca aveti unul cu use)
/use Volcanic Potion



Cam atat cu acest guide. + rep daca am ajutat. Va rog sa lasati sugestii in comment section. -
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    Post Posted: 28-04-2013, 22:18:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    Guideul este foarte sarac, ai doar cateva informatii generale, dintre care destul de multe gresite, in primul rand, in wow nu se pot folosi termenii "rotatie" si "prioritati" in acelasi context, pe orice clasa de dps fie ai rotatie, fie ai prioritati, nu le poti avea pe amandoua, si pe shamanul elemental ai prioritati. In al doilea rand, pe elemental nu se foloseste unleash elements, niciodata, acel spell iti pune un global cooldown pentru un increase damage foarte mic, si pur si simplu nu se merita. In al treilea rand, meta-ul folosit nu este Ember shadowspirit diamond, pe elemental se foloseste Burning Shadowspirit Diamond, meta-ul cu intellect+3% increased critical efect. Nu in ultimul rand, nu vreau sa fiu grammar nazi, dar cand postezi ceva cu scop informativ, citeste de 2-3 ori textul inainte sa il postezi si corecteaza-ti greselile gramaticale, nu da bine deloc.


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    Post Posted: 28-04-2013, 22:29:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    Pe langa asta , totemele nu vor fi mereu alea ci diferite in functie de compozitia raidului si ce bufe sunt disponibile .

    Fire elemental totem nu folosim ?

    "in cazul elemental-ui, mareste sansa dea a da cu un spell de 2 ori damageul dat de acel spell"-----nu... nu face asta mastery .Mastery da o sansa sa aiba loc elemental overload ce lanseaza o copie a spellului castat ce da 75% din dmg


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    P.s - m-ai bine nul puneai,sau mai bine zic il faceai cum trebuia este ffffff low informatii talente, cd defence, intele de start ,iteme biss, s.a.m.d Raised eyebrow



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    Post Posted: 29-04-2013, 10:44:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    Elemantal se joaca la full haste, nu la stats balansat.
    De ce spun asta? La un encounter, in recount, cel mai eficient spell este Lightning bolt si asta in cazul in care ai sa zicem 30% haste (fara totem) si ~12 % mastery. Cu lighning bolt prinzi foarte des 30 -50 k crit, chiar si fara buff de elemental overload.
    Coeficientul bonus la mastery este foarte mic si 18 %mastery (daca dai reforge numai in mastery) iti scade dps-ul foarte mult.
    Cel mai eficient mod este sa joci full haste cu procuri de mastery /intel /haste de 2k + (bonus 2 piese tier, trinkete)

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    de fapt nu se joaca la full haste, se joaca balansat, chiar la BIS gear o sa ai pe tine cu ~1k mai mult mastery decat haste, eu ti-am mai zis tie sa nu mai postezi pe forum nimic ce are legatura cu shamanu ca n-ai habar de capu tau, vad ca tot nu vrei sa intelegi


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    Post Posted: 29-04-2013, 12:25:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    HrN wrote:
    de fapt nu se joaca la full haste, se joaca balansat, chiar la BIS gear o sa ai pe tine cu ~1k mai mult mastery decat haste, eu ti-am mai zis tie sa nu mai postezi pe forum nimic ce are legatura cu shamanu ca n-ai habar de capu tau, vad ca tot nu vrei sa intelegi


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    =>Intellect > 17% Spell Hit (Hit | Spirit) > Haste => Mastery > Crit
    => If you are not at or above 17%, on any gear without Hit/Spirit, reforge the weakest stat (see stat priority) into Spirit or Hit. Most players prefer to reforge into Spirit as then their gear is more useful as Resto too. Spirit and Hit Rating increase spell hit equally. Reforge your gear for Spirit/Hit until you are at or slightly above 17%.
    2. Maximize Haste

    if a gear item does not have Haste, reforge the weakest stat (see stat priority) into Haste. Be sure not to lose your 17% Hit Cap though.

    3. Check Gear for Mastery

    If a gear item has Haste but no Mastery, reforge the weakest stat (Crit or excessive amounts of Hit) into Mastery.

    sursa: http://174.137.65.157/My%20Web%20Sites/Noxxic/wow/pve/shaman/elemental/dps-gear-reforging.html <<

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    Post Posted: 29-04-2013, 16:39:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA OMU IMI VINE CU LINK DE PE NOXXIC -

    chiar crezi ca ma impresionezi? orice random slaban poate sa posteze orice vrea el pe orice forum, asta nu inseamna ca e adevarat, sau ca eu trebuie sa ma iau dupa el, daca pe tine nu te duce capul sa gandesti catusi de putin clasa aia e problema ta, pe mine ma duce, n-am nevoie de sfaturi de la un random de pe noxxic, pe care probabil il invat shaman la orice ora.

    ca sa intelegi ideea, pe ele sham se pune haste asa incat cu totem jos, in elemental mastery, sa ajungi cat mai aproape de 1 secunda cast time pe light bolt, ca sa nu te bata global cooldownu, la BEST IN SLOT GEAR, avand in vedere bonusul de 4 piese care iti da 750 haste permanent, este ideal sa joci cu fabuloasa suma de exact 2200 haste, in rest bagi tot in mastery, pentru ca ai nevoie de cat mai mult mastery ca sa tii procurile de la bonusul de 4 piese up, si pentru ca odata ce ajungi la 1 secunda cast time pe light bolt in bloodlust, sau cand ai elemental mastery+dark intent pe tine, singurul lucru care iti mai mareste dps-ul este masteryul, PENTRU CA DEGEABA STACHEZI TU 4K HASTE PRI3T3N3, MAI MULT DE UN LIGHTNING BOLT PE SECUNDA NU POTI SA DAI, CREDE-MA PE CUVANT



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    Post Posted: 30-04-2013, 08:24:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    sa stii ca nu toti sunt donatori de aici si majoritatea abia daca au 2 piese de tier. Daca tu cauti 5 guide-uri de shaman elemental 4.3.4 pe google, in toate 5 ai sa vezi ca se recomanda haste.

    Si sa vedem de ce se joaca la elemental pe haste:
    adauga tickuri la flameshock , scade castingul la filler (lb) si ...reduce GCD-ul
    uite un guide detaliat elemental shaman cu informatii legate de haste si impactul pe care il are asupra specului: http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t110309-elemental_cataclysm_discussion_patch_4_3_a/ (dai scroll jos de tot..pana la grafic - )

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    Post Posted: 30-04-2013, 11:40:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    nici nu stiu de ce ma mai chinui sa iti explic, joaca tu elemental cu 3k haste pe tine si have fun cu 15k dps


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    Post Posted: 30-04-2013, 12:51:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    HrN wrote:
    nici nu stiu de ce ma mai chinui sa iti explic, joaca tu elemental cu 3k haste pe tine si have fun cu 15k dps


    OffTopic: Sa explici ce?!

    OnTopic: In ghid nu ai specificat faptul ca single target (encounter) se foloseste si fire elemental totem care in 4.3.4 beneficiaza de 55 % din spell power-ul shamanului, iar searing totem recomandat de tine da miss in prostie.

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    Post Posted: 30-04-2013, 14:49:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    Am editat guide-ul. Cand voi ajunge la pc, voi completa cu niste chestii.
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    Post Posted: 30-04-2013, 19:25:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    Elementalul indiferent ce e PvP/PvE se joaca la haste

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    Magicqtz wrote:
    Elementalul indiferent ce e PvP/PvE se joaca la haste

    Altul... Uitate mai sus si ai sa vezi de ce nu se joaca elemental la full haste.

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    Post Posted: 01-05-2013, 10:50:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

    Nabilor ! Toata lumea stie ca shamanul elemental se joaca la Expertise -




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