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Post Posted: 23-10-2011, 11:06:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=64901&&name=hymn-of-hope
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Dupa ce spellul se termina, am observat ca mana care ar trebui sa ti-o ia inapoi, iti ramane. Acest spell ar trebui sa comporte ca un trinket battlemaster gen.
Dovada / Proof: You recite a Holy hymn, restoring hope to those in despair. Restores 3% mana to 3 nearby low mana friendly party or raid targets every 2 seconds for 8 seconds, and temporarily increases their total maximum mana by 20% for 8 seconds. After the effect expires, THE MANA IS LOST. Maximum of 12 mana restorations. The Priest must channel to maintain the spell. (Citat wowwiki).

Also read this: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2793449334

O sa incerc sa caut si niste movies dupa oficial, pe wcm...poate gasesc.

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Post Posted: 23-10-2011, 17:24:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

dispare maximum mana nu dispare mana gained ( doar daca esti full mana)



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Post Posted: 31-10-2011, 18:54:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

guessftw wrote:
Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=64901&&name=hymn-of-hope
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Dupa ce spellul se termina, am observat ca mana care ar trebui sa ti-o ia inapoi, iti ramane. Acest spell ar trebui sa comporte ca un trinket battlemaster gen.
Dovada / Proof: You recite a Holy hymn, restoring hope to those in despair. Restores 3% mana to 3 nearby low mana friendly party or raid targets every 2 seconds for 8 seconds, and temporarily increases their total maximum mana by 20% for 8 seconds. After the effect expires, THE MANA IS LOST. Maximum of 12 mana restorations. The Priest must channel to maintain the spell. (Citat wowwiki).

Also read this: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2793449334

O sa incerc sa caut si niste movies dupa oficial, pe wcm...poate gasesc.


" and temporarily increases their total maximum mana by 20% for 8 seconds. After the effect expires, THE MANA IS LOST"

e mai greu ... cu logica...



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Post Posted: 31-10-2011, 19:01:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ai 100% mana, dai hymn = 115% mana, dupa ce se duce efectul. mana revine la 100%

ai 20% mana actuala, dai hymn = 115% mana, dar de la 20% cat ai iti mai adauga pe parcurs, mana ramane la 100% dupa trecerea efectului dar nu ai sa ai 20% mana actuala ci 30-35% depinde cat iti da in timpul channelului.

acum ai inteles?


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Post Posted: 31-10-2011, 21:23:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tu vrei sã zici cã priestul trebuie sã aibã acel x% mana pentru 8 secunde. Tot cu te contrazici, când zici asta:
guessftw wrote:
The Priest must channel to maintain the spell.


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Post Posted: 01-11-2011, 07:17:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am ramas foarte curiaosa daca acest "Bug" este intradevar corect, asa ca am facut unele teste chiar acum...

Am castat flash of light pe mine pana am scazut mana mea la 7%, aproximativ pana am ramas cu ~6500 Mana Pool.

La 10% am castat Hymn of Hope, mana totala mi-a fost marita cu 15% pentru cele 8 secunde.

Total Mana ( No Buffs ): 87030

0.15 * 87030 = 13054.5 - Mana bonus care o da Hymn Of Hope pentru cele 8 secunde

87030 + 13054.5 = 100084.5 => voi avea 100084 mana pentru ca sistemul WoW decide ca decimalele sa fie ignorate, luand in considerare cel mai mic numar intreg, in acest caz "100084"

Spiritul meu care este "1920", imi spune ca pe fiecare 5 secunde out of combat, eu primesc o cantitate egala cu 3171 Mana. Regula de 3 simple care o invatam in clasa a5a daca nu ma inseala memoria, de cand a trecut perioada aceea, spune asa:

3171mana ->>> 5 sec
x Mana ->>> 8 secunde


3171*8/5= 5073.6Mana

Pe langa asta, Hymn of Hope spune asa: You recite a Holy hymn, restoring hope to those in despair. Restores 3% ( Ai gresit aici, este 2% nu 3% ) mana to 3 nearby low mana friendly party or raid targets every 2 ( Modificat de Haste Rating la mine la 1.81 Sec ) seconds for 8 seconds, and temporarily increases their total maximum mana by 20% ( si aici la fel, este 15% nu 20% ) for 8 seconds. After the effect expires, THE MANA IS LOST. Maximum of 12 mana restorations. The Priest must channel to maintain the spell.

Ok.. : Deci, daca la fiecare 2 secunde, primesc 2% din cei 115% mana pe care ii am, timp de 8 secunde, asta inseamna, 2% mana de 4 ori = 8% mana din cei 115%

Demonstratie:

100084 = Mana Pool cu buful de 15% de la HoH
12% = Mana Gained de la HoH

100084*0.08= 8006.72 => Mana pe care o primesc de la HoH


Deci, Daca eu am castat HoH la 10% mana inseamna ca mai aveam ~8703Mana Pool, La asta se adaoga Mana primita pe durata celor 8 secunde, a 5073mana din spirit, 8006 mana din HoH, + boostul initial de 15% mana, 13054.

Calcul:

8703+5073+8006+13054= 34836 Mana dupa HoH.


Nota 1:

2Sec --->>> 8 Sec
1.81Sec --->>> x Sec

1.81*8/2= 7.24Sec




Concluzii Finale:


Dupa cum demonstreaza Printurile pe care le-am atasat mai jos cu link extern, Bugul despre care vorbesti tu nu este existent din urmatoarele motive:

- Spellul spune ca iti mareste Mana totala cu 15%, implicit aceasta mana o primesti free.
- Descrierea spell-ului spune clar, faptul ca dupa cele 8 secunde, Bonusul de mana ( Cei 15% in plus fata de mana ta totala ), sunt scazuti din mana pool-ul tau total = NU vei pierde bonusul de 15% mana efectiva primta de la HoH
- Cantitatea de mana este aceeasi indiferent de Haste Rating-ului fiecarui player individual deoarece, dupa cum spune si Spell-ul in sine, are un maximum number de replenishments de 12 mana restorations. Haste Rating afecteaza doar durata channeling-ului spell-ului = La mine nu este channeling de 8 secunde ci de "7.24 Secunde" -->> Vezi Nota 1
- Acum un sfat pentru tine: Nu mai lua tooltips de pe wowwiki sau wowhead sau alte siteuri de wowguides, pentru simplul motiv, dupa cum te-am corectat de 2 ori, spellurile se schimba de la patch la patch, ceea ce din prima pe tine te-a "furat" de 5% mana totala si 1% mana pe tick de restore. Don't Be naive, read tooltips IN-GAME!

- Spell-ul Merge la perfectie!


SSuri:

Bufurile de la HoH:

- 1: http://postimage.org/image/lrwxa78xz/full/

- 2: http://postimage.org/image/fd4ywbbdd/full/

Mana Pool Inainte de a casta HoH: http://postimage.org/image/lmbw0hd23/full/

M.P. Dupa HoH, Inainte ca 15% mana sa dispara: http://postimage.org/image/e9kukcqq9/full/

M.P. Dupa HoH, Normal Mana Pool: http://postimage.org/image/wwhahqhaf/full/

Stats Fara Bufuri: http://postimage.org/image/mejlwsnkr/full/



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Post Posted: 01-11-2011, 08:41:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Era si pe Lick King acest bug - Hymn of Hope ar trebuii sa aibe acelas efect ca http://www.wowhead.com/item=70565
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Post Posted: 01-11-2011, 12:06:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pt redred2
samsung9oi a explicat foarte bine si exact cum merge Hym of Hope
Daca aveti alte calcule care sa demonstreze ca nu merge cum trebuie postatile daca nu abtineti-va

Multumim samsung9oi pt calcule


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Post Posted: 01-11-2011, 14:52:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ciobuzzz wrote:
pt redred2
samsung9oi a explicat foarte bine si exact cum merge Hym of Hope
Daca aveti alte calcule care sa demonstreze ca nu merge cum trebuie postatile daca nu abtineti-va

Multumim samsung9oi pt calcule


Nu avem calcule si imi e greu sa explic cum ar trebui sa functioneze acest spell corect, d-aia nici nu am mai postat. Oricum cei care au jucat pe blizz, stiu cum ar trebui sa functioneze acest spell corect @ pacientu. Altfel nu s-ar mai fii facut bug report aiurea. Close topic...no concludent proofs here, doar daca cineva binevoitor cu cont pe blizz face niste ss'uri sau un mic movie. -

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Post Posted: 28-11-2011, 13:54:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pana la dovezi contrare: merge bine

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