[Druid][PvP] Rip Dmg

[Feraltest]

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=1079 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Dmg mai mare decat trebuie.


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Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=1079 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: The damage is higher than it should be



Prints cu stats/glyphs/mastery :

IMG: http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9246/wowscrnshot122611220842.jpg

IMG: http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9987/wowscrnshot122611220856.jpg

IMG: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2804/wowscrnshot122611220919.jpg

Ok o sa ma apuc sa calculez :

Formula : 56 + 161 * 5 + 0.1035 * AP pe tick = 861 + 1464 = 2325

Glyph 15%

2325 + 2325*15/100 = 2673

Mangle 30%

2673 + 2673*30/100 = 3474

Mastery 44%

3474 + 3473*44/100 = 5002

Atat trebuie sa dau pe 0 resil la gearul meu (noncrit).

IMG: http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5711/wowscrnshot122611220959.jpg

Diferenta este de 1500 dmg la noncrit pe 0 resil.

[vbmv]

Adevarul e ca da prea mult cam tot la druid feral ! Facui azi cateva BG si ma uimii cum dau bleeds si mai ales mangle ! Oricum Topicul find legat de RIP dmg, Confirm !

[Shocker]

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mangle-Cat-Dmg-t123824.html
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mangle-Bear-Dmg-t123821.html
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Ravage-Dmg-t123822.html
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shred-Dmg-t123823.html
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Rake-Dmg-t124060.html

Toate astea sunt de la fixul cu weapon damage, probabil ar trebui modificate toate feral abilities sau mecanismul de weapon damage pentru feral abilities. O sa scot temporar fixul pentru weapon damage si probabil o sa le repar dupa sarbatori, nu prea am timp acum sa ma uit in detaliu la problema, am pus toate linkurile aici ca sa le gasesc mai tarziu mai usor

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[Honourthebaws]

Si inainte aveau dmg cam mare, dar nu le puteam calcula pentru ca nu stiam exact wepp dmg. O sa revin cu un edit daca gasesc ce le influenteaza , pentru ca am o banuiala, in caz ca nu gasesc sarbatori fericite

[Snowqt]

Shocker wrote:

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mangle-Cat-Dmg-t123824.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mangle-Bear-Dmg-t123821.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Ravage-Dmg-t123822.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shred-Dmg-t123823.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Rake-Dmg-t124060.html Toate astea sunt de la fixul cu weapon damage, probabil ar trebui modificate toate feral abilities sau mecanismul de weapon damage pentru feral abilities. O sa scot temporar fixul pentru weapon damage si probabil o sa le repar dupa sarbatori, nu prea am timp acum sa ma uit in detaliu la problema, am pus toate linkurile aici ca sa le gasesc mai tarziu mai usor

No no no.. Why revert the fix? The problem here is that mastery is bugged and increases ALL damage instead of just bleed. It's easy to reproduce. Just unlearn your feral spec and note your weapon damage. Now spec feral, calculate the ap (and respectively dps gain), deduct and you'll find out that your mastery after speccing feral indeed increases your melee damage. Another way is to obtain some on-use mastery trinket and see your non-bleed damage go up.

So the problem with the aforementioned abilities is that it kinda double-dips in bugged mastery. Once for your weapon damage used to calculate mangle damage and then another time for mangle itself.

TL:DR just make mastery increase bleed damage only as it should and you wont have to refix everything

[Zohlomg]

No, it is wrong. Mastery only increases bleed damage.

With 200 mastery(yes, 200 points, not 200 rating) i deal the same damage.

Later Edit: Only ferocious bite is influenced by mastery, because it's considered bleed damage, dunno why.

[Snowqt]

SS1 - Untalented
As you can see no talents picked (the no saved talents note is because i set em without learning to make the process easier) - 6255ap, 539dps
SS2 - Feral Spec
Here im specced feral, gaining ap from aggression and heart of the wild - 8836ap, 918 dps

The ap gain is 8836-6255 = 2581 = 184.35 dps =194 dps in my case after haste

Expected dps is 539.5 + 194 = 733.5

On the ss the dps is 918, which is exactly 25% more than 733, which happens to be the base amount of mastery.

The conclusion is that the damage gets increased by base mastery, probably thats why you saw no difference by adding mastery points and im apparently wrong with the on-use mastery trinket example but the point still stands

[Vio57]

Shocker wrote:

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mangle-Cat-Dmg-t123824.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mangle-Bear-Dmg-t123821.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Ravage-Dmg-t123822.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shred-Dmg-t123823.html http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Rake-Dmg-t124060.html Toate astea sunt de la fixul cu weapon damage, probabil ar trebui modificate toate feral abilities sau mecanismul de weapon damage pentru feral abilities. O sa scot temporar fixul pentru weapon damage si probabil o sa le repar dupa sarbatori, nu prea am timp acum sa ma uit in detaliu la problema, am pus toate linkurile aici ca sa le gasesc mai tarziu mai usor

Vroiam sa fac un topic dar vad ca deja este facut si m-am gandit sa postez aici.
Din ce am testat eu am observat ca un bug este la calculul de Ap pentru cat form https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=768&name=cat-form.
(Strength x 2) + Agility + (Character Level x 2) - 20 = x (asta pentru charul meu de lvl 35 si fara arma in mana si fara nici un punct de talent bagat)
(54 x 2) + 52 + (35 x 2 ) - 20 = 210 + 25% ap din https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=84735&name=aggression = 262.5
Eu in joc in cat form am 371 (cu 108.5 ap in + ) .Am facut screen dar nu stiu sa postez.Este usor de testat.
Sper sa fi ajutat in vreun fel.

[Italiano Vero]

Merge bine Ap:

Freakz : 5600 agility 16k ap



Blizz : 5700 agility 16.2k ap



Nu mai postati offtopic, daca aveti completari la ce am calculat eu bine, daca nu , nu.

[Vio57]

Italiano Vero wrote:

Merge bine Ap: Freakz : 5600 agility 16k ap IMG: http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5893/wowscrnshot122811012621.jpg Blizz : 5700 agility 16.2k ap IMG: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8639/wowscrnshot102911212329.jpg Nu mai postati offtopic, daca aveti completari la ce am calculat eu bine, daca nu , nu.

Ap nu se calculeaza doar din Agility...(am pus formula mai sus) si nu mai face comparatii cu blizz avand in vedere ca ai gear diferit..Eu am facut calcul fara 2h in mana
tu pe freaks ai dps 1527 in cat si pe blizz ai 1988 in cat.. Daca ai 2h in mana se calculeaza si (Weapon dps - 54.8) * 14 .
Scoate arma pe ambele sa vezi diferenta sau pune aceiasi arma.

[Italiano Vero]

Mosule pe freakz a fost scos fixul de wepp dmg, de aia e diferenta asta. Eu am vrut sa iti arat ca ~ cu aceleasi stats ai ~ acelasi ap. Daca tu crezi ca nu merge bine , faci topic @ bug report , nu mai posta aici.

PS: Vezi ca formula aia a ta, e pentru ap luat din arma (ap care il luai pana pe wotlk), iar pe cataclysm nu mai iei. Mai informeaza-te.

[Mandatory]

nu are legatura cu postul
...am acelasi gear ca honourless.
http://picz.ro/index.php?id=51eae3116b08f5ad1574c60ac013276c
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9987/wowscrnshot122611220856.jpg
diferenta este de 45 agy.
acum, intrebarea este urmatoarea:
cum de eu am 1315-1346 dmg...pe cand el are 1808-2276 dmg???

[Italiano Vero]

Pentru ca a fost scos fixul fratilor. Voi ati citit macar ce a scris shocker 3,4 posturi mai sus?

[Bodomyk]

read post from shoker

[Mandatory]

am inteles...