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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 14:25:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok deci sa se stie de la inceput, nu vreau pareri de oameni terminati, vreau argumente pro si contra a ceea ce postez eu in momentul de fatza.

Problema sta in felul urmator. Din ce se stie , pana pe patch 4.2, priestu disci nu prea a existat prin arene, pana si Hydra juca 3x dps la 3s (shadow rmp) , iar peste tot pe blizz se vorbea de shamy/hpala best healers ( kitty cleaves la 3k+ pe Stormscale, s.a.m.d).

Dovada?


http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/842600-Best-%28all-rounded%29-PvP-healer-in-4.0.6
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1549670806


Culmea este ca pe freakz, orice terminat joaca disci/druid resto din 2 motive :

1. Dupa 20 de minute de arena e ~ 80% mana
2. Nu prea ai cum sa il pici din motive destul de dubioase

Dupa cum se vede in link de pe mmo, healerii care dominau arenele erau paladini/shamani, urmati de druid resto si disc pe ultimul loc, insa pe Freakz topul sta in felul urmator :

80% Priests
18% Druizi
1% Shamani
1% Paladini

Intrebarea mea este urmatoarea : Freazku a dat nastere la priesti mai buni ca Hydra , care saracu nu facea fatza cu disci in perioada asta , sau e ceva dubios aici?

PS: Nu am priest sa testez talente/spells si oricum nu o sa mai am timp sa intru. Astept pareri urmate de dovezi.

Postu lui honourless,celalt a fost inchis aici putem discuta.



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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 15:17:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

vexwow1 wrote:
Freazku a dat nastere la priesti mai buni ca Hydra , care saracu nu facea fatza cu disci in perioada asta

^ this

< proof





Acuma, sincer sa fiu, nu cred ca merge 100% paladinul holy, iar de disci priest sunt 90% sigur ca are niste coeficienti mai mari la healuri. Adica, pe 4.2 prind aia 40 k crit pe flash heal, adica 20 k non crit, si cam atat prind si eu pe 4.0.6, cu mai putin spellpower, evident.

vexwow1 wrote:
Culmea este ca pe freakz, orice terminat joaca disci/druid resto

amen

Pe freakz "orice terminat" joaca ceva care ii da un avantaj mare asupra altora: disc/feral(cel putin inainte)/druid resto (cand dadea heal dublu si urlau druizii resto pe la bug reportsca merge perfect, nu-i asa), precum si combo-uri la fel.

De vreme ce jucam pe cata, trebuie sa acceptam ca e un patch nebalansat, care a ingropat combo-uri vechi si a adus unele noi, care teoretic nu au niciun rost.

Ca sa nu mai adaug ca din tbc incoace, asta e cel mai prost patch facut vreodata pentru 2v2, de care absolut nimanui nu ii mai pasa. Numai pe freakz ne place sa jucam combo-uri retardate la 2v2 si sa refacem teamul de 10 ori pana reusim sa ajungem in top3 cu cat mai putine loss-uri, scazand de fiecare data si mai mult mmr-ul ca sa avem impresia ca valoram ceva. Chiar daca am folosit persoana I, nu trebuie tratat ca atare.


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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 15:36:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Sunt multi disci priesti pentru ca absorburile power word >> pain sup > bariera sunt prea bune+ power wordul tot ii da mana in continuu la dispel/destroy si au cooldownuri scurte, resto druizi au heal enorm si nu ramane fara mana, shaman resto ramane fara mana dar are heal bun, paladinii mor rapid pentru ca nu au talente gen focused will si se bazeaza prea mult pe cds.
Deci pe freakz e asa topul:
1. Rdruid
2. Dpriest
3. Rsham
4. Hpala


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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 15:38:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ai dreptate cu healerii si mai e ceva, hunteri pe MM nu existau in arena pe 4.0.6 pe blizz decat pe BM ..........aici orice noob da 35 k aimed si chimera pe full resil ca sa nu mai zic ca explosive shoot ignora resilu - , acu o sa cereti printuri.....haha just test it.
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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 16:23:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@kadafii1923 hai sa nu deviem de la subiect , adevarul e ca ceva nu merge bine, de ex eu(arms warr) fac arene cu un holy pala si e foarte stresant sa vezi un dprist care spameaza manaburn timp de 30 min fara ca mana sa i se miste.
Ceva trebuie facut.

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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 16:51:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

freakz are cel mai decent gameplay de cataclysm fata de toata privatele asa ca fiti multumiti cu ce aveti si nu uitati e gratis
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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 16:56:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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freakz are cel mai decent gameplay de cataclysm fata de toata privatele asa ca fiti multumiti cu ce aveti mai ales ca e gratis...


Wow... ce ventuza ai dat la tot stafful.... nu trebuie sa se mai spele la *** 2 zile. Ti se pare ca a reprosat cineva ceva serv sau vre-unui moderator/game master? Pur si simplu am deschis un subiect destul de importat in PVP , care sper sa aiba o rezolvare mai devreme sau mai tarziu... daca tie iti place sa pupi in *** anumite persoane si sa dai lupte neinfricate cu "fiarele" din BOT , nu te obliga nimeni sa vi cu remarci de rahat ca asta.

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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 17:48:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Eu nu joc Shadow pentru cã este un spec ***. Poa' sã meargã disci oricât de rãu, tot disci joc.
Þie þi se pare cã dacã Hydra nu a putut juca cu RMP asta înseamnã cã nu e disci bun? La noi se joacã setupuri OP cu disci feral hunter, RMP-uri tot nu vezi :<


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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 17:58:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Eu nu joc Shadow pentru cã este un spec ***. Poa' sã meargã disci oricât de rãu, tot disci joc.
Þie þi se pare cã dacã Hydra nu a putut juca cu RMP asta înseamnã cã nu e disci bun? La noi se joacã setupuri OP cu disci feral hunter, RMP-uri tot nu vezi :<


The top teams are getting ready for it, practicing a lot on the live realms to see what’ll be the good comps and what might be good comps, Hydra’s learning how to play Discipline again, seeing he played Shadow since December 7th, and he’s streaming his route to victory, so check it out on the homepage frequently

http://hydramist.tv/page/55/

Deci omul asta care e de departe best priest alive, care joaca disci din tbc/pre-tbc , tocmai in primele patchs aka pana in 4.2 , nu mai joaca disc . Dc? O sa iti aduc ce zicea el despre disc in perioda asta insa trebuie sa caut umpic. Deci pe blizz era un rahat de healer , iar aici 9/10 healers sunt priesti.... eu unu zic ca e mai mult decat evidet ca ceva nu e ok.

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Acolo sunt 18 shamys din 20 de healeri , aici sunt 18 priests din 20 de healeri....



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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 18:08:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Din 100 de arene, 80 pici cu discipline priest & feral/dk/warr/rogue/hunter etc.



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myhay25 wrote:
freakz are cel mai decent gameplay de cataclysm fata de toata privatele asa ca fiti multumiti cu ce aveti mai ales ca e gratis...


Wow... ce ventuza ai dat la tot stafful.... nu trebuie sa se mai spele la *** 2 zile. Ti se pare ca a reprosat cineva ceva serv sau vre-unui moderator/game master? Pur si simplu am deschis un subiect destul de importat in PVP , care sper sa aiba o rezolvare mai devreme sau mai tarziu... daca tie iti place sa pupi in *** anumite persoane si sa dai lupte neinfricate cu "fiarele" din BOT , nu te obliga nimeni sa vi cu remarci de rahat ca asta.



unora la place pvp altora pve, eu prefer pve cu ce am zis eu acolo nu inseamna k am pupat pe cineva in cur ...dute si joaca pe mo**r si vezi acolo clase buguite (nervosi mai sunt uni)

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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 18:14:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

myhay25 wrote:
unora la place pvp altora pve, eu prefer pve cu ce am zis eu acolo nu inseamna k am pupat pe cineva in cur ...dute si joaca pe mo**r si vezi acolo clase buguite (nervosi mai sunt uni)


Pai si la ce te bagi in discutii care te depasesc? unde cunostintele tale despre pvp/ce a fost pe blizz pe patch actual tind spre 0 ? Eu stiu o chestie.... cand sunt prost stau in banca mea, nu semnalizez.

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Nerdstomper wrote:
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http://sadpanda.us/images/545446-EGJ7AXM.bmp

Acolo sunt 18 shamys din 20 de healeri , aici sunt 18 priests din 20 de healeri....


Si 15 warlock'i affli din 20. E mui importante sa fie lock in team.


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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 19:50:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

in topicul celalt se plangea unu ca cu full vicios da shield u absorb 20k,scuza ma am un priest dezbracat cu 6k sp si absoarbe shieldu 22k


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Post Posted: 20-01-2012, 20:11:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

de asta intre blizz si restu ser private e o diferenta de la cer la pamant:)
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