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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 21:40:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ciberandy wrote:
cazul meu:

SP=6172
Mastery=12.68

fara shadowform

Raid damage buff=1 -nu am nimic activ
Shadow Power=1.25 la noi pe patch
Twisted faith=1.02 (2 puncte bagate)
Shadowform=1
twin disciplines=1.06 (3 puncte bagate)
Shadow orbs=1
Dark archangel=1 - nu afecteaza decat Mind Flay


Shadow Power da 15%, nu 25% (4.0.6 hotfix).
Twisted Faith - 1.02
Twin Disciplines - 1.06

Celelalte nu se aplica.

6172*0.515*1.15*1.02*1.06=3952, in schimb tu dai 4491.

LE: am uitat sa pun base damage, 3952+485=4437

Mastery-ul nu se pune, ti se pare tie ca Shadowy Apparition e DoT?

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You have a 10% chance for your Shadow Word: Pain and Mind Flay spells to grant you a Shadow Orb each time they deal damage. Casting your Mind Blast or Mind Spike spell consumes all Shadow Orbs, increasing damage of that spell by 10% per Shadow Orb


Prima parte se aplica la MB si MS.

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and granting 10% increased damage on your periodic Shadow spells for 15 sec. You can have up to a maximum of 3 orbs.


A doua parte se aplica la DoT-uri.





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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 21:57:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ce nu se aplica, base damage si mastery sau ce incerci sa imi spui?



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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 22:58:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ai gresit cu ceva.
Deci tu dai 2482.
Sa calculam impreuna :
485.8 + ( 0.515 * 3077 ) = 485.8 + 1584.6 = 2070.4 . Bun, aici intervine MAGIA .
Shadow power (wowhead link), care intradevar, a fost scazut la 15 % pe 4.0.6 A , de la 25 % . Sa-l aplicam si noi, nu ?
2070.4 * 1.15 = 2380.96
Acuma, aplicam si Twisted faith (wowhead link) :
2380.96 * 1.02 = 2428.5
Diferanta : 2482 - 2428.5 = 53.5 . Nu e asa de mare cum ai zis tu nu? Adica la feral spre exemplu e si acuma diferenta de cateva sute la bleeds, comparat cu asta, e apa de ploaie.

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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 23:21:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Lasal frate sa se simta si el bine , nu e in stare sa faca niste calcule ,arunca niste spell power , si un coeficient si crede ca ne da pe spate.

Daca te tine te rog calculeaza si pt mind blast si mind flay , eu personal am calculat si am vazut ca e cu 20-30% mai putin decat ar trebui ,
da normal ca nu calculezi , de ce sa repari bugurile negative? hai sa sticam de tot priestu.

Si citeste mai atent topicurile pe cate le refentionezi , pentru ca zice si tipu ala clar , ca habar nu are care e formula pentru Shadowy aparition , ai prins si tu de pe forum lincu ala , eu l-am referentiat prima in :
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mind-Flay-DMG-t117384.html

apreciez ca l-ai citit , acum fa pe bune calcule sau intoarcete la clasa ta buguita , si veziti de treaba!

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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 00:12:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

485.8 + ( 0.515 * 3077 ) = 2070

+ 15 % vine 2380 , iar eu dau cu 100 si ceva mai mult ( nu cu 500 my bad ) . Asta cu gear de rahat, no procs , low lvl , no buffs .





@ Ala de mai sus.... Cu prima ocazie iti trimit un buchet de flori sa iti treaca supararea

PS: Cum ziceam probabil la full gear diferentele sunt mai mari . De ce cred asta?



7k pe 3600+ resil. Nu dau 7k swp si devo adunate draq.




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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 01:03:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

0 rezil
3628 rezil
Concluzia : nu tine cont de rezil, iar damage este mai mic decat ar trebuii, dar o sa fac alt topic in care o sa demonstrez asta.

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icsu wrote:
0 rezil
3628 rezil


Clar .... si te mai miri de ce a fost si este plin serv de shatterplays.... numa buguri pozitive @ dmg done au... ba de 10x mai mult heal din devo plague, ba 2x dmg , ba nush ce... sunt curios cate teams mai raman dupa ce se descopera toate bugurile.




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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 10:04:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mai nou asa se fac fixuri ? Apare un anonim cu formula lui complicata gen "3+1=4", si gata ?
Sunt mai multe de luat in calcul, nu doar base damage si spell power coefficinet.



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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 10:07:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

SwAp2188 wrote:
Mai nou asa se fac fixuri ? Apare un anonim cu formula lui complicata gen "3+1=4", si gata ?
Sunt mai multe de luat in calcul, nu doar base damage si spell power coefficinet.

Continua asa daca vrei sa fi injurat de italiano vero salamo.

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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 10:32:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

De fapt toti pets / summons etc. ignora resil. Aveam impresia ca e "common knowledge" de cand injura lumea Water Elemental.
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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 10:50:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

SwAp2188 wrote:
Mai nou asa se fac fixuri ? Apare un anonim cu formula lui complicata gen "3+1=4", si gata ?
Sunt mai multe de luat in calcul, nu doar base damage si spell power coefficinet.


Daca spui asta cunostintele tale sunt prea mici sau esti prea prost sa fi bagat in seama.




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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 14:59:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Foarte probabil sa ignore rezilu,am luat si cate 6200 crits pe 3480 rezil;Cand am facut ruthless glad cu shadowplay pe blizz,priestu meu nu dadea asemenea crits si era in ruthless gear.
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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 16:09:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

toti pets ignora rezil , asta nu e scopul topicului , scopul topicului este :

Tipul A tranteste un spellpower si un coeficient pentru Shadowy aparition , pentru a afirma ca da prea mult dmg , evident se insala , aducand si resurse incoerente spre a-i sustine afirmatia, nu e nimic acolo de Shadowy aparitiom.

Tipul B face calcule , ii arata la tipul A ca greseste, acesta se trage pe cur si nu recunoaste, afirmand ca o vai ignora rezil , TOTI PETS IGNORA REZIL! WAKE UP!
Tipul B demonstreaza in alt topic ca de fapt spelu da mai putin dmg decat trebuie si nu tine cont de talnente.

Close topic.

-REP nerdstomper! Macar demonstreaza ca ai curaj sa recunosti ca ai gresit!

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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 16:15:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bai infectule citeste primul post sa vezi ca oricum da cu 100 si ceva mai mult dmg. Invata in rasa ***** sa calculezi un spell si dupa vino sa discuti cu mine. Cat despre resil... hai daca ignora X pet resil, sa lasam si astea nu? Mentalitate de oier. Acum dai drumu de aici si nu mai cauta anturaj obositule.

PS: Cu ce drept ceri sa se inchida topicu? Ai intrebat-o pe ma-ta si te-a aprobat?




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Post Posted: 02-05-2012, 22:53:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

normal ca da cu 100 dmg mai mult , dupa ce ai modificat postu de n ori , ori esti in stare sa fi consecvent in ceea ce susti , ori tot modifici pana iesi tu in castig. oricum ce rost are sa mai o lalaim, au inteles toti cum sta treaba
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