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Post Posted: 26-01-2012, 16:54:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=974 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Heal prea putin fata de blizz
Dovada / Proof:
TL;DR
Base Heal Earth Shield ar tb sa fie 1700
Base Coefficient Earth Shield ar tb sa fie 0.156
Base Heal Earth Shield ar tb sa fie 2124 ( dupa https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=16213 )
Base Coefficient SP Earth Shield ar tb sa fie 0.1949 ( dupa https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=16213)


Sunt 2 chestii care s-au schimbat din 4.0.6 pana in 4.3 pe blizz legate de Earth Shield
Quote:
Earth Shield healing done by Restoration shaman has been reduced by 20%.

Quote:
Deep Healing now benefits all heals, not just direct heals.
- afecteaza acum si Earth Shield

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Mastery is a throughput stat that grows stronger the lower the health of your healing targets is. It affects all heals since 4.1, and most before that. If your target is at 1 HP you will get the full benefit out of your mastery, and at 30% you will get 70% out of your mastery. Healing someone at 90% health will get you only 10% out of your mastery.


Deci la 100% HP cum am eu, Mastery nu afecteaza Earth Shield! ( -/+20 heal )

Conform Elitist Jerks :
http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t121202-resto_raiding_4_1_updating_4_3_a/#Coefficients
Base Heal: 2124 (fara talente)
Coefficient SP : 0.1949 (fara talente)
Problema e ca nu zice ca la restul spellurilor "last verified date". Trebuie stabilit daca sunt pre-4.1 sau post-4.1.

@Blizz:
Earth Shield pe Blizz fara gear, fara glyph(20%) si fara talente - ~1750 heal


Deci nu e aceeasi valoare.

Punem Glyph de Earth Shield ( 20% ) increase - echivalent nerfului de 20% facut in 4.1 sa verificam daca ne da aceeasi valoare ca base heal raportat de Elitist Jerks.
Earth Shield pe Blizz fara gear, cu glyph( 20%) si fara talente - ~2124 heal



Problema e ca nu poti avea Earth Shield fara Purification ( 25% increase heal ).
De aici putem deduce clar ca stats afisate pe Elitist Jerks sunt din 4.0.6 si ar trebui aplicate si la noi, dar trebuie scazut mai intai Purification ( 25% heal increase)
Pe wowhead.com la Earth Shield scrie 1416 heal.
1416*1.25=1770 exact healul pe care il dau pe blizz acum.

Pentru a calcula Base Heal inainte de Purification:
1416*1.2=1700 ( base heal afisat de WoWhead inmultit cu 20% valoarea nerfului din 4.1)
Pentru coeficient e mai greu un pic dar am estimat valoarea la 0.156
0.156*1.25=0.195 ( dupa Purification ar trebui sa fie 0.1949 )

Pe Freakz nu putem testa cu 0 gear pentru ca nu s-a pus base heal, dar s-a pus un coefficient mai mare la heal. De aceea o sa comparam full gear @Blizz cu glyph of Earth Shield( 20% ) si fara talente vs @Freakz fara glyph of Earth Shield si fara talente- in felul acesta "anulam" nerful de 20% din 4.1. Daca valorile la Earth Shield ar fi corecte, ar trebui sa dea acelasi heal.

@Blizz Full Gear ( 6977 SP) , CU Glyph of Earth Shield si fara talente - 3372 heal



@Freakz Full Gear ( 6954 SP) , FARA Glyph of Earth Shield (20% ) si fara talente - 2410 heal . Ar fi trebuit sa dea acelasi heal datorita nerfului, dar nu e asa! Da cu 40% mai putin heal.




@Blizz Full Gear ( 6977 SP), FARA Glyph of Earth Shield si fara Talente - 2893 heal - ar fi trebuit sa dea cu 20% heal mai putin decat cazul precedent, dar totusi da mai mult cu 20%



@Freakz Full Gear ( 6954 SP ), CU Glyph of Earth Shield ( 20% ) si fara talente - 2892 heal . Ar fi trebuit sa dea cu 40% heal mai mult decat cazul precedent. (20% nerf si 20% glyph) dar da acelasi heal.



Cred ca e destul de evident ca Earth Shield pe Freakz da mai putin heal decat dadea pe blizz in 4.0.6 cu 40% si fata de Blizz 4.3 cu 20% mai putin.

Va rog sa va abtineti din comentarii daca nu intelegeti logica simpla si matematica!

P.S. Am modificat postul de ieri pentru ca uitasem sa iau in calcul Glyph of Earth Shield.

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Post Posted: 12-02-2012, 20:39:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)



3775 heal @ 8.5k SP is sad :(

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Post Posted: 13-02-2012, 21:19:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

cum ma shay? e aplicata formula de pe blizz, asa tre sa dea frate, ce daca pe blizz dadeau 5k la 6.5k sp, in frozen romania, blizz learns from freakz!

acum lasand sarcasmul la o parte, ar fi frumos sa se repare earth shieldu, ca totusi pe 4.0.6 best healer la 2v2 a fost shamanu resto, nu disco priest cum e la noi -



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Post Posted: 14-02-2012, 01:19:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

+1 Hrn
Pe Cataclsym best healer in pvp e shamanul! Mai ales pe 4.2, cand devine cam op -

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Post Posted: 26-03-2012, 15:11:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Up you go.
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Post Posted: 10-04-2012, 13:49:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 13-04-2012, 21:21:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

eu cred ca este o problema si la healu care l primeste parteneru din arena, este foarte mic. Daca dau cu aproximatie 3000 heal pe tick e bine...si uite cum ar trebui sa dea http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=183951 in filmul asta se vede exact ca healu e de la 5800 5900 pana pe la 6100 6200
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Post Posted: 18-07-2012, 16:26:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BUMP !!!!!!
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Post Posted: 18-07-2012, 16:52:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ideea e ca acum ceva vreme se facuse un bug report la earth shield cum ca ar da prea mult heal => a fost nerfuit
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Earth-shield-t109893.html



nu dati click >>> Scrubilicios <<<

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Post Posted: 18-07-2012, 21:03:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

webberas wrote:
ideea e ca acum ceva vreme se facuse un bug report la earth shield cum ca ar da prea mult heal => a fost nerfuit
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Earth-shield-t109893.html


Era 20 k critical heal. Acum e prea mic heal-ul, au fost postate dovezi.

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Post Posted: 19-07-2012, 02:18:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i know ... ideea e ca in loc sa il fi reparat, i-au dat uber nerf


nu dati click >>> Scrubilicios <<<

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Post Posted: 21-07-2012, 12:47:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shay wrote:


3775 heal @ 8.5k SP is sad -


8483 sp @ minim 5k heal maxim 9k



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Post Posted: 21-08-2012, 00:13:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 31-08-2012, 17:30:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Primul bug la earth shield a fost acum 5-6 luni cand dadea 25k crit / hit , dupa s-a "reparat' si acum il foloseasti doar pentru heal increase nu pentru healu pe care il da , mi se pare cam usless acum , btw 25k crit heal in full BT deci nu full gear








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Post Posted: 16-09-2012, 18:58:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

In acest topic au fost aduse dovezi, calcule, teste. Ce mai trebuie adus ca sa fie mutat la confirmed ? Este vechi de nu stiu cand topicul, iar altele in 2-3 zile trec la confirmed.
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