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Post Posted: 30-08-2012, 15:23:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Salut ... Am si eu o problema... daca imi puteti da si mie niste rotatii ... Am ilvl 358 si la dummy numai trec de 11k dps... si nici nu stiu din ce motiv.

Eu folosesc ce scrie pe tutoriale pe forum dar nu isi face efect ... Ma poate ajuta careva ?
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Post Posted: 30-08-2012, 17:27:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Rotatia care ii pe forum in ghiduri ii corecta.

Daca esti MM trebuie sa ti cont de Careful Aim si Standard Phase. In Standard Phase poti folosi si Aim Shoot ca dump focus daca ai ~ 2.5s timp sa castezi.

Dps-ul nu vine doar din rotatie. Mai conteaza:
- sa ai doar mail pe tine(fara leather pt ilvl mai mare)
- pet-ul
- sa ai glyph-urile
- sa ai macro-urile
- sa pui gemuri cu 40 agility daca nu da bonus minim 10 agi
- sa te scapi de mastery
- sa ai cele mai bune enchanturi
- food/flask(la bosi nu pe dummy test)
- haste plateau

Vezi ca... conteaza si dummy-ul. Pe cel din durotar ar trebui sa dai cam 15. In orgrimmar cam 13k, iar pe heroic cam 11-12. Dummy-urile din orgri is 100% deci ai activ Careful Aim(pe MM).
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Post Posted: 30-08-2012, 18:57:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
din ce ai mentiuonat ... am pet (wolf cel cu critica ) ajuta foarte multe , de aseamnea am 8% Hit , restu Haste si crit... , am glyph de pe forum ... AM gemuri de agilitate , numai ca am 2 iteme de leather , restu de mail ... Rotatia o folosesc astfel :
Rapid --> 2aimed --> x2 steady - 2aimes -> dupa cand se termina rapid fire dai Readniess si tot asa pana se consuma si asta apoi dau 2xsteady-> 1 aimed peurma o chimera .... avand Serpthing si Mark pe boss... Dar mai mult de 14 k nu dau...
Dar nici nu stiu ce sa mai faci... (macro nu prea am ca nu prea folosesc) dar nici nu stiu ce sai mai fac... alti au iteme identice ca mine si dau 20k...
Si nici nu imi explic de ce...
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Post Posted: 30-08-2012, 20:34:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
La gear mai mare ai sa vezi ca .....cat>wolf la single dps pt simplu fapt ca agi>crit>haste>mastery
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Post Posted: 31-08-2012, 10:04:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
MaddDogg wrote:
din ce ai mentiuonat ... am pet (wolf cel cu critica ) ajuta foarte multe , de aseamnea am 8% Hit , restu Haste si crit... , am glyph de pe forum ... AM gemuri de agilitate , numai ca am 2 iteme de leather , restu de mail ... Rotatia o folosesc astfel :
Rapid --> 2aimed --> x2 steady - 2aimes -> dupa cand se termina rapid fire dai Readniess si tot asa pana se consuma si asta apoi dau 2xsteady-> 1 aimed peurma o chimera .... avand Serpthing si Mark pe boss... Dar mai mult de 14 k nu dau...
Dar nici nu stiu ce sa mai faci... (macro nu prea am ca nu prea folosesc) dar nici nu stiu ce sai mai fac... alti au iteme identice ca mine si dau 20k...
Si nici nu imi explic de ce...


Cam atat ar trebui sa dai 14-16k un durotar(depinde si de dummy). Hunter-ul nu mai da 20k pe dummy decat dupa 360 cu arma heroic. Asta ii dps-ul la hunter.
Pve cu hunterul nu o sa fi in top la dps; joci cu el mai mult de fun.
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Post Posted: 04-09-2012, 23:28:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Antz wrote:
MaddDogg wrote:
din ce ai mentiuonat ... am pet (wolf cel cu critica ) ajuta foarte multe , de aseamnea am 8% Hit , restu Haste si crit... , am glyph de pe forum ... AM gemuri de agilitate , numai ca am 2 iteme de leather , restu de mail ... Rotatia o folosesc astfel :
Rapid --> 2aimed --> x2 steady - 2aimes -> dupa cand se termina rapid fire dai Readniess si tot asa pana se consuma si asta apoi dau 2xsteady-> 1 aimed peurma o chimera .... avand Serpthing si Mark pe boss... Dar mai mult de 14 k nu dau...
Dar nici nu stiu ce sa mai faci... (macro nu prea am ca nu prea folosesc) dar nici nu stiu ce sai mai fac... alti au iteme identice ca mine si dau 20k...
Si nici nu imi explic de ce...


Cam atat ar trebui sa dai 14-16k un durotar(depinde si de dummy). Hunter-ul nu mai da 20k pe dummy decat dupa 360 cu arma heroic. Asta ii dps-ul la hunter.
Pve cu hunterul nu o sa fi in top la dps; joci cu el mai mult de fun.


Nu o sa fii cu hunterul in top la dps? -) buna asta...

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Post Posted: 05-09-2012, 01:36:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Hunteru nu e top DPS? atunci ce e top dps la tine? intr-adevar la unii bossi nu te ajuta clasa sa dai dps dar la unii spargi norma.

ontopic : daca mai citesti topicu asta, vezi ca cu noul script freakz, ai nevoaie de mai mult haste sa tii pasi cu aceeasi rotatie.


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Post Posted: 05-09-2012, 10:12:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Cine ii in top dps: war, dk; cam pot adauga si mage. La acelasi ilvl scoateti mult dps ca ei?
Ziceti cand ati fost ultima data #1 la dps cu raid 365+?

Am vaz dk 355 care a scos 23k dps la Argaloth. La ce ilvl scoate hunterul 23k dps?

Pentru mine top dps nu ii o clasa ca da max 27-28k(BIS). Ma astept ca un hunter sa treca de 32-33 si atunci as zice ca ii in top dps.


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Post Posted: 05-09-2012, 11:58:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
inseamna ca hunteri ce i-ai vazut nu stiau juca.


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Post Posted: 05-09-2012, 22:49:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Antz wrote:
Cine ii in top dps: war, dk; cam pot adauga si mage. La acelasi ilvl scoateti mult dps ca ei?
Ziceti cand ati fost ultima data #1 la dps cu raid 365+?

Am vaz dk 355 care a scos 23k dps la Argaloth. La ce ilvl scoate hunterul 23k dps?

Pentru mine top dps nu ii o clasa ca da max 27-28k(BIS). Ma astept ca un hunter sa treca de 32-33 si atunci as zice ca ii in top dps.


Ultima data ieri cred.Hunteru ar putea sa dea atat daca ar fi reparat complet ca oricare alta clasa din joc pe patch-u asta btw hunter e top dps pe cataclysm check Kripparian de exemplu.

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Post Posted: 06-09-2012, 16:21:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Nu e neaparat ilvl-ul sau rotatia de vina ci talentele / skillurile care nu functioneaza cum trebuie.
Ce nu ma crezi? Verifica link-ul asta, si uita-te la minutul 16. 354 ilvl si scoate 20k pe dummy.
Mai ales dupa ultimul "focus fix" au stricat hunterul grav de tot, dar ce-i doare pe ei...

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Post Posted: 07-09-2012, 13:31:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Starhawk wrote:
Nu e neaparat ilvl-ul sau rotatia de vina ci talentele / skillurile care nu functioneaza cum trebuie.
Ce nu ma crezi? Verifica link-ul asta, si uita-te la minutul 16. 354 ilvl si scoate 20k pe dummy.
Mai ales dupa ultimul "focus fix" au stricat hunterul grav de tot, dar ce-i doar pe ei...


20k pe dummy si 28k la Argaloth...
pe freakz la 354 dai 18-20k la Argaloth. La 362 am dat 23k.

Dar, dupa cum zice RayzanJang... cred ca nu stiu eu sa dau dps la Argaloth. Ma bate clasa -

Ia zi RayzanJang cat scoti? Rupi standardele?
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Post Posted: 07-09-2012, 16:35:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Dupa last focus fix mi s'a dat toata rotatia pe care o aveam peste cap. Acum dau 4x steady aimed chimera 20k dps + la majoritatea bosilor, am destul de mult haste si dupa 4x steady tot nu se face 90 focus mereu ca sa prind aimed + chimera perfect ... dar e tested si asa ar trebuii sa mearga ... Tot mastery reforgiuit in crit, mastery facea 6% din dmg meu total, acum face 4% dar am 3% in + crit la toate celalte.

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Post Posted: 07-09-2012, 23:01:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
dupa multe teste facute cu prieteni mei ..........haste capu la mm hunter pe 4.0.6 e de 1610 haste...........daca adaugi mai mult ai aceelasi cast time indiferent daca am 1700 sau 1800......in rest tot ce e in + ori mastery ori hit......
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Post Posted: 08-09-2012, 19:55:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
mastery/hit sau crit?


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