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Post Posted: 29-01-2013, 01:09:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Hit bonus doesnt work. Its not only problem with bad showing correct value in character info but it actually doesnt work (miss with meel abilities in pvp happens, shouldnt with my hit rating + this bouns but i unfortunately dont have pic for that).
Dovada / Proof: http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1941/elehit.png http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9602/enhhit.png

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Post Posted: 29-01-2013, 10:41:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Please bring a proof when you hit a target with a melee ability (yellow damage) and it sais *MISS* while having at least 2% hit from items and +6% from Dual Weild. I've tested it and for me it works fine.

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Post Posted: 29-01-2013, 12:55:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok, screen 1 shows that i missed Nejna with lava lash ability:
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/395/prof1.png
screen 2 shows that i am enh and have +4,2% hit chance bonus from items
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/3167/prof2k.png
screen 3 shows that Nejna is a player
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2/prof3.png

I think its good proof.

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Post Posted: 29-01-2013, 19:59:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Now I think its some kind of general bug with miss so maybe bonus form enh spec works. I posted new topic on forum.
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Post Posted: 29-01-2013, 23:46:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Good proof you say?

Lava Lash does spell(fire) damage therefore you need SPELL HIT soft cap.(4-5%)

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Post Posted: 29-01-2013, 23:57:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nejna is a Night Elf, and night elfs have a racial quickness(2% miss chance from melee/ranged attackers).
You can read about it here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quickness

So because of this you would require 6% spell and/or 7% melee hit to hit night elfs and not miss.


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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 00:04:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mr.Faith wrote:
Nejna is a Night Elf, and night elfs have a racial quickness(2% miss chance from melee/ranged attackers).
You can read about it here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quickness

So because of this you would require 6% spell and/or 7% melee hit to hit night elfs and not miss.


Only melee,doesn't affect spell.
Passively increases the night elves' chance to avoid Melee and Ranged attacks (excluding spells) by 2%.

Good catch though.

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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 00:07:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869413528
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It is considered a Melee Attack and uses all the melee stats as it's modifiers. AP, Melee Hit(Specials), and Melee Crit.

It's a Melee attack that deals Fire Damage. That is all.


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Mr.Faith wrote:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869413528
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It is considered a Melee Attack and uses all the melee stats as it's modifiers. AP, Melee Hit(Specials), and Melee Crit.

It's a Melee attack that deals Fire Damage. That is all.


Lava Lash's spell school is Fire.
Blizzard might have a special case handling for this spell but I doubt it..therefore Lava Lash benefits of spell hit and ONLY spell hit on our server.
That's why he missed with it as well,his spell hit ain't soft capped.

E.g If Lava Lash spell school was Physical,the caster would require melee hit in order to successfully apply the effects(in this case % wep damage as fire) but the damage itself would require spell hit as it's fire.

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=60103&&name=lava-lash

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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 17:20:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Requiemnox wrote:
Good proof you say?

Lava Lash does spell(fire) damage therefore you need SPELL HIT soft cap.(4-5%)

Learn your wow..


Learn your wow.. you say?

First of all, in wow there is something called hit rating bonus and it affect EQUALY spell hit chance and meel hit chance.
Secondly, you cant have meel hit soft cap without having spell hit soft cap becouse spell hit soft cap REQUIRES LESS HIT RATING THEN meel hit soft cap and I have spell hit cap in pvp.
And last information for you lava lash isnt spell it is ABILITY like warrior heroic strike for example, you think warriors/hunters/rogues have spells too?

I think only person who need "learn wow" here is YOU.

Screenshot showing that i have spell hit cap also:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9518/spellhit.png

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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 18:34:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The spell hit for PvP is 4%, the melee/range (special attacks) hit is 5% (u may still miss vs Nelfs). However when dualwielding u get an extra miss penalty to your auto attacks witch means u can always get an auto attack miss cuz in order to cap the wight attacks u need like 24% (24 if I remember corectly, maybe more) hit.



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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 18:41:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Night elfs just need 2% more hit. You've missunderstand, that doesn't mean that always U can miss NE, it just increahse hit cap needed. What else, He've Spell and Meele hit cap overcaped, so He shouldn't miss - spell hit cap=4%, so on NE it's 6% -> He've more than 6% on spell. Anyway NE racial improve only miss chance for ranged and meele, so Spell hit chance have nothing to say here.
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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 18:42:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Passively increases the night elves' chance to avoid Melee and Ranged attacks (excluding spells) by 2%.


In my opinion it means that i have to have 2% more hit cap to always hit nelfs with abilities not that i will always (no mater how high hit chance bonus i have) have 2% chance to miss...
I have 4% + 6% from talents so i souldnt be able to miss any player with my abilities what apparently doesnt work!

Even if lava lash is spell (what will be definitely bugged) i still have spell hit soft cap and nelfs ability to "Passively increases the night elves' chance to avoid Melee and Ranged attacks (excluding spells)".

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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 20:06:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Akhmed wrote:
Night elfs just need 2% more hit. You've missunderstand...

And u missreaded.. I said "may" not "will".




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Post Posted: 30-01-2013, 23:36:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ozaru wrote:
Requiemnox wrote:
Good proof you say?

Lava Lash does spell(fire) damage therefore you need SPELL HIT soft cap.(4-5%)

Learn your wow..


Learn your wow.. you say?

First of all, in wow there is something called hit rating bonus and it affect EQUALY spell hit chance and meel hit chance.
Secondly, you cant have meel hit soft cap without having spell hit soft cap becouse spell hit soft cap REQUIRES LESS HIT RATING THEN meel hit soft cap and I have spell hit cap in pvp.
And last information for you lava lash isnt spell it is ABILITY like warrior heroic strike for example, you think warriors/hunters/rogues have spells too?

I think only person who need "learn wow" here is YOU.

Screenshot showing that i have spell hit cap also:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9518/spellhit.png


Are you mad?
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=78&&name=heroic-strike

Heroic Strike is a Physical attack and the damage effect is also Physical,learn your stuff before talking.

About your hit rating,it affects melee/range equally but spell hit has another formula,I wasn't supposed to guess your spellhit.
Also notice you've reforged to more hit since the previous SS http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/3167/prof2k.png & http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9518/spellhit.png.

Get your facts right and learn your wow.

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