[FIXED] Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps

[doru15]

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Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Damageul dat de tentaculul summonat este mult mai mic decat ar trebui, nu tine cont de damage modifiers de pe player si (posibil) nu procuie in arene. Mai multe info:

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It does not scale with attack power or spellpower. It does not directly get more ticks with haste, even with bloodlust (though more haste means more tentacle procs) It seems to inherit the player's spell hit and the Mind flay casts (not ticks) go off the spell hit table; 88+ dummy had a few misses with 8.02% melee hit and 9.4% spell hit and it missed occasionally. I also went to the 85 dummy with about 5.04% melee hit (5.9% spell hit) and never saw a miss over a sample size of 542 ticks. It does not seem to inherit the player's melee crit as a post above me indicates. While on the 85 dummy with a lot of agility gear and no crit which pushed me to 11.62% melee crit and 1% spell crit and the same sample size of 542, 9 of those 542 ticks were crits. Assuming theres no crit suppression on the 85 dummy, this is a crit rate of about 1.66%, which is strongly in favor of inheriting the player's spell crit. Baseline damage of normal Gurthalak proc is 11155. Each proc, assuming each cast hits casts 3 mind flays for 3 ticks each, totalling 9 ticks per proc. It inherit's damage aura's from the player that increase all damage, so a player in berserker stance will increase the damage from 11155 to 12270.5. Also, changes to the player's damage modifier won't affect mind flays already being cast (i.e. a mind flay starts casting for 1 ticks of 11155 in defensive stance, warrior goes berserker stance. it continues to tick for 11155, but the next spell it casts will benefit from berserker stance, hitting for 12270). Furthermore, it is also affected by damage-taken modifiers on the boss, be it all damage, or spell damage debuff. LFR baseline damage is 9881. If it scales linearly to heroic, heroic -should- hit for 12429/tick. Crits are 150%. They also inherit the player's meta gem crit bonus, increasing crit damage to 154.5% Can confirm there is no ICD as I had up to THREE tentacles attacking the same target at the same time, and all 3 dealed their own damage (combat log easily showed this as 3 ticks of mind flay in the same second as well as numbers popping up on my screen). If you happen to be an unholy DK, the proc's damage increases with the amount of mastery you have. The proc does not inherit the death knight's 200% spell crit modifier; it still crits for 150% modified by crit meta. Also weapon-based attacks not considered to come from Gurthalak will -not- proc it. This is from a sample size of 633 slams from the main hand and the only source of rage was battle shout and berserker rage, absolutely no autoattacks at all. I had gurthalak in my offhand and a garbage green in the mainhand. There were -zero- procs. HOWEVER, if you are attacking with a non-weapon-based melee attack, such as Bloodthirst, then it -CAN- proc, regardless of what hand the weapon is in as long as it is equipped.

Sursa: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1040084-Gurthalak-questions


Ce nu merge:

• Tentaculul nu da dmg corespunzator. Fiecare tick in momentul de fata da ~2k dmg si ar trebui sa dea: 9881 LFR / 11155 N / 12429 HC
  
• Dmgul nu este afectat de buffs active de pe owner care dau increase dmg overall sau doar shadow (exemplu: Berserker Stance de la warrior mareste dmgul dat de tentacul de la 11155 la 12270.5, adica cu 10%, fix cat da stanceul, sau alt exemplu este masteryul de la DK unholy)
  
• Nu face proc in BG / Arene.
  
• Dmgul dat de tentacul trebuie sa aiba sansa de crit cat spell crit are cel care l-a summonat.
  
• Tentaculul are HP prea mare. Momentan are ~80k HP. Ar trebui sa aiba 15498 HP.
  
• Nu ar trebui sa procuie din Censure. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3811455871?page=7#123
  
• (posibil) Sansa de proc mica, ar trebui sa aiba 2% sansa de proc (fara ICD) pe orice spell care necesita melee weapon (inclusiv warr arms mastery sau trinkete de genul http://www.wowhead.com/item=78002).

[Groovy]

It does NOT scale with attack power in any way, shape or form.
Sansa este de 2%. Tentaculele ataca la random. Toate tentaculele dau dmg, inclusiv pe acelasi target. *Hotfixed*

Code:

4:40, da de 2 ori in dk si dupa de 2 ori in priest

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m-MdBPfJTY4:



Gurthalak proc will almost always attack a pet if there is one attacking you. It's dmg is reduced by resil/resistance. It can easily be one shotted (15k hp). It can be LoS'ed, CC'ed (aoe fear etc), it can break CC. You can go a full game without it proccing once.

Most importantly it doesnt have resil. We're already short on resil (thx to 2piece pve).
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3161499255

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[Sharpshooter]

It is not affected by Attack Power, though it's empowered by Unholy Death Knight mastery: Dreadblade( http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=77515&&name=dreadblade)

[Snoppy]

it scales with all clases masteries(i refer to melee)


,,Angel Among demons"

[Lemnaru]

Snoppy wrote:

it scales with all clases masteries(i refer to melee)

Well it's not really true what you say, Gurthalak, Voice of Deeps:

On Unholy Death Knight scales from: Unholy Mastery

On Arms Warrior scales from: Enrage & Crits from melee attacks

On Retribution Paladin scales from: Seal of Truth & Censure ( but the last one, i mean censure...was nerfed,he was made to not scale anymore from it, because paladins was to overpowered, this happend when the weapon duration proc was buffed up to 12 seconds from 10 seconds)

And another thing that makes Gurthalak, Voice of Deeps to proc to all classes its from: ONLY PHYSICAL DAMAGE

And it's one thing to know, only one trinket can make Gurthalak, Voice of Deeps to proc more & be more powerfull: http://www.wowhead.com/item=78002/bone-link-fetish


Have a nice day, and don't be cruel if i've done some mistakes. You will see 4.3.4 it's the most balanced patch for all the classes.

[kabutozero]

Bump , can this be fixed soon? It's nice to have best damage weapon , but it would be nice for us donors to enjoy also the proc

[ShiftFTW]

Zohll a zis ca a fost reparat.
Link : http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Gurthalak-proc-merge-t201448.html


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[Snoppy]

faceti diferenta dintre proc si damage?


,,Angel Among demons"

[AlexMatei]

Din cate am vazut da 2k per tick


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/silvermoon/Alexmatei/advanced

[ShiftFTW]

Snoppy wrote:

faceti diferenta dintre proc si damage?

Din moment ce a zis ca a fost reparata inseamna ca e fixed, doar nu repara ceva pe jumatate si cealalta jumatate cand isi aduce aminte


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[hallon1]

OMFG close this topic ....... Gurthalac have fixed dmg . LFR have like 90k , at N have like 120k and at HC like 150k isnt scale with any spell of any class wtfffff. For spawn tentacle need be in melle range . Like at ultraxion boss you need be near at boss to spawn tentacle .

Mai pe romaneste tentacule are live de 15 -20 sec in care da dmg exact cat e de buna de pe lfr , n si hc . Are dmg fix nu scaleaza cu nimic .

[kabutozero]

the problem is that the tentacle is doing 2K PER TICK , so the damage is bugged , I looked on wowhead and it says 2k too , maybe that's the base value and gets increased by ap or some other hidden value depending on the mode of the weapon ? ( lfr , normal , heroic)

And it's proven than unholy mastery should affect it's damage , and also % damage increases , like warr

[Snoppy]

kabutozero wrote:

the problem is that the tentacle is doing 2K PER TICK , so the damage is bugged , I looked on wowhead and it says 2k too , maybe that's the base value and gets increased by ap or some other hidden value depending on the mode of the weapon ? ( lfr , normal , heroic) And it's proven than unholy mastery should affect it's damage , and also % damage increases , like warr

same for censure/hand of light.


,,Angel Among demons"

[ShiftFTW]

AlexMatei wrote:

Din cate am vazut da 2k per tick

Ai vazut tu asa ceva pe freakz?


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[AlexMatei]

Da , vazut asta pe freakz


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