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Post Posted: 06-02-2013, 21:18:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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O alta chestie tu cu 106 strength + 89 agility ai 700 Attack power.
conform http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_power "Each point of strength increases melee attack power by 2, except for rogues, shamans, and hunters who gain 1 AP per point of strength, and 2 per point of agility. Druids in cat form also gain 2 AP per point of agility"
... deci feral ar trebui sa aiba 106*2+89*2 attack power , adica 390 attack power
mai iei inca 25% din Aggression si ar trebui sa fie 390*1.25 = 487,5 attack power !!! dar tu ai 700 diferenta foarte mare.
Daca esti imbracat full banuiesc ca diferenta e imensa .


Mi se pare mie sau ai gasit un posibil bug de base stats la druid ?



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O alta chestie tu cu 106 strength + 89 agility ai 700 Attack power.
conform http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_power "Each point of strength increases melee attack power by 2, except for rogues, shamans, and hunters who gain 1 AP per point of strength, and 2 per point of agility. Druids in cat form also gain 2 AP per point of agility"
... deci feral ar trebui sa aiba 106*2+89*2 attack power , adica 390 attack power
mai iei inca 25% din Aggression si ar trebui sa fie 390*1.25 = 487,5 attack power !!! dar tu ai 700 diferenta foarte mare.
Daca esti imbracat full banuiesc ca diferenta e imensa .


OFF:E grav pentru tine daca bagi strength pe feral.
EDIT: Ai uitat sa precizezi https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=17005&&name=heart-of-the-wild

ON: Aici e topic legat de FB nu de altceva.





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Post Posted: 06-02-2013, 21:21:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Formula de la spell finder e corecta..

13 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP-30 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP damage

Asta e de 5CP.
Probabil ca sunt variabile in functie de level(13+36) dar asta trebuie sa verific.



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Requiemnox wrote:
Formula de la spell finder e corecta..

13 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP-30 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP damage

Asta e de 5CP.


Asta e formula veche (ai folosit spell finderu de pe wow fraekz). Si da este corect damage-ul daca folosesti formula asta dar nu corespunde cu patch 4.3.4



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Naturezftw wrote:
Requiemnox wrote:
Formula de la spell finder e corecta..

13 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP-30 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP damage

Asta e de 5CP.


Asta e formula veche (ai folosit spell finderu de pe wow fraekz). Si da este corect damage-ul daca folosesti formula asta dar nu corespunde cu patch 4.3.4


Aia care am folosit-o eu e cea corecta, nu ?



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Naturezftw wrote:
Requiemnox wrote:
Formula de la spell finder e corecta..

13 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP-30 + 36 * 5 + 0.545 * AP damage

Asta e de 5CP.


Asta e formula veche (ai folosit spell finderu de pe wow fraekz). Si da este corect damage-ul daca folosesti formula asta dar nu corespunde cu patch 4.3.4

Item/spell Finder pe freak încã sunt upgradate la 4.3.4. Nu știu de Npc Finder -



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Post Posted: 06-02-2013, 21:28:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Scorpyix wrote:

Aia care am folosit-o eu e cea corecta, nu ?


Da...aceeasi formula am folosit si eu numai ca nu am luat si partea cu increase dmg de 100% cu additional of 25 energy pt ca nu are rost...partea aia merge bine, damage-ul se dubleaza.



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Naturezftw wrote:
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O alta chestie tu cu 106 strength + 89 agility ai 700 Attack power.
conform http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_power "Each point of strength increases melee attack power by 2, except for rogues, shamans, and hunters who gain 1 AP per point of strength, and 2 per point of agility. Druids in cat form also gain 2 AP per point of agility"
... deci feral ar trebui sa aiba 106*2+89*2 attack power , adica 390 attack power
mai iei inca 25% din Aggression si ar trebui sa fie 390*1.25 = 487,5 attack power !!! dar tu ai 700 diferenta foarte mare.
Daca esti imbracat full banuiesc ca diferenta e imensa .


OFF:E grav pentru tine daca bagi strength pe feral.
EDIT: Ai uitat sa precizezi https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=17005&&name=heart-of-the-wild

ON: Aici e topic legat de FB nu de altceva.


Macar ai citit pe wowiki cum se calculeaza melee attack power ???

sau nu stii sa citesti engleza ??

inca o data iti mai calculez si cu heart of the wild si fac separat topic de bug report

tu ce intelegi cu "Each point of strength increases melee attack power by 2, except for rogues, shamans, and hunters who gain 1 AP per point of strength, and 2 per point of agility. Druids in cat form ALSO gain 2 AP per point of agility" ??? ah ??
deci in cazul tau ar veni asa : (106*2+89*2)* (1.25+1.10) = 526,5 attack power siu tu ai 700
Diferenta e imensa cand esti full imbracat.
Mai invata engleza si citeste tot wowiki ala cum se calculeaza melee attack power.

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Naturezftw wrote:
bloodiethink wrote:
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O alta chestie tu cu 106 strength + 89 agility ai 700 Attack power.
conform http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_power "Each point of strength increases melee attack power by 2, except for rogues, shamans, and hunters who gain 1 AP per point of strength, and 2 per point of agility. Druids in cat form also gain 2 AP per point of agility"
... deci feral ar trebui sa aiba 106*2+89*2 attack power , adica 390 attack power
mai iei inca 25% din Aggression si ar trebui sa fie 390*1.25 = 487,5 attack power !!! dar tu ai 700 diferenta foarte mare.
Daca esti imbracat full banuiesc ca diferenta e imensa .


OFF:E grav pentru tine daca bagi strength pe feral.
EDIT: Ai uitat sa precizezi https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=17005&&name=heart-of-the-wild

ON: Aici e topic legat de FB nu de altceva.


Macar ai citit pe wowiki cum se calculeaza melee attack power ???

sau nu stii sa citesti engleza ??

inca o data iti mai calculez si cu heart of the wild si fac separat topic de bug report

tu ce intelegi cu "Each point of strength increases melee attack power by 2, except for rogues, shamans, and hunters who gain 1 AP per point of strength, and 2 per point of agility. Druids in cat form ALSO gain 2 AP per point of agility" ??? ah ??
deci in cazul tau ar veni asa : (106*2+89*2)* (1.25+1.10) = 526,5 attack power siu tu ai 700
Diferenta e imensa cand esti full imbracat.
Mai invata engleza si citeste tot wowiki ala cum se calculeaza melee attack power.


Bine du-te fa alt topic acum. Stop OT. By the way ce mi se pare ciudat e ca pe blizz full ruthless ai ~17k attack power. Cat am eu pe freakz? tot la fel deci nu stiu ce calcule faci tu dar cu itemele pe mine e ok AP-ul
Daca nu ma crezi e destul de usor sa afli asta...un check pe youtube la un guide si o sa vezi ca toti druizi au 17 chiar 18k AP in cat form.





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Post Posted: 06-02-2013, 21:35:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu a fost offtopic ..

http://druid.wikispaces.com/Strength



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bloodiethink wrote:


Macar ai citit pe wowiki cum se calculeaza melee attack power ???

sau nu stii sa citesti engleza ??

inca o data iti mai calculez si cu heart of the wild si fac separat topic de bug report

tu ce intelegi cu "Each point of strength increases melee attack power by 2, except for rogues, shamans, and hunters who gain 1 AP per point of strength, and 2 per point of agility. Druids in cat form ALSO gain 2 AP per point of agility" ??? ah ??
deci in cazul tau ar veni asa : (106*2+89*2)* (1.25+1.10) = 526,5 attack power siu tu ai 700
Diferenta e imensa cand esti full imbracat.
Mai invata engleza si citeste tot wowiki ala cum se calculeaza melee attack power.


Stop QQ-ing uite aici ai o poza din programul Rawr (in caz ca nu ai auzit de el ti-as sugera sa dai un search pe google) in care se vede foarte clar ca un druid tauren, cum este si cel care a facut topicul fara iteme pe el, lvl 85 si cu talentele puse are aproximatv 700 ap, deci nu vad unde ar fi problema.




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da ai dreptate e foarte "slab" Ferocious Bite a dat unu in 3800 resiliance NUMA 66 000 dmg hacker report > http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Damage-hack-in-bg-t202668.html , ar trebui sa dai si tu macar 100 000 in 4000 resiliance.
1. nu ai gearu lu ala de pe blizz poate e full pvp /pve
2.deja e buguit sau il fac alti sa fie ...
off tipic > 3. si eu as vrea ca rogue sa dea asa , sunt multumita si in 3 sec sa fac un kill nu 2 ca ala are legendary daggers .
https://youtube.com/watch?v=K_4K0HR6LlU:




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da ai dreptate e foarte "slab" Ferocious Bite a dat unu in 3800 resiliance NUMA 66 000 dmg


Realizezi ca daca iti cer print acuma o sa zici ca n-aia vut timp sa faci sau eu stiu ce scuza gasesti...in fine cine stie cate surse de dmg increase avea druidu ala? debuffs pe target berserking etc.

EDIT: Cel mai bun dmg al meu cu full procs pe 20k armor (desi oricum FB ignora o parte din armura deci asta nu se pune) si 4k resil dummy --> 33k ... practic nu stiu ce zici tu -






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Naturezftw wrote:
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da ai dreptate e foarte "slab" Ferocious Bite a dat unu in 3800 resiliance NUMA 66 000 dmg


Realizezi ca daca iti cer print acuma o sa zici ca n-aia vut timp sa faci sau eu stiu ce scuza gasesti...in fine cine stie cate surse de dmg increase avea druidu ala? debuffs pe target berserking etc.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3600/hackinbg.png se vede in hack report

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Post Posted: 06-02-2013, 22:08:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

astea is abureli 28k non crit pe ferocios bite la 4,1k rezil ti se pare putin pai sunteti batuti cu p u l a in cap normal ca vi se pare putin la cum da rake si rip numai suferiti si marsh la cusca cu javrele voastre de druid feral clasa de 2 butoane
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