[Item] Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps

[Snoppy]

http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110342-retribution_concordance_4_3_voice_dps/p111
Am gasit ce afecteaza gurtalak. Communion si probabil si Avenging's Wrath cand e afectata(20% damage increase) + Guardian care iti da stackuri de strenght. Enough said?

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Damage modifiers that will affect it include 3%/2% communion, CoE, avenging wrath, UH DK mastery, battle/berserker stance,boss mechanic global buffs/debuffs. Outside of that tick damage has remained constant.

Cred ca e normal nu?


,,Angel Among demons"

[hallon1]

Snoppy wrote:

http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110342-retribution_concordance_4_3_voice_dps/p111 Am gasit ce afecteaza gurtalak. Communion si probabil si Avenging's Wrath cand e afectata(20% damage increase) + Guardian care iti da stackuri de strenght. Enough said? Quote: Damage modifiers that will affect it include 3%/2% communion, CoE, avenging wrath, UH DK mastery, battle/berserker stance,boss mechanic global buffs/debuffs. Outside of that tick damage has remained constant. Cred ca e normal nu?

Eu cred ca nu sti engleza asra mi-ai demonstrat mai citeste de 100 de ori .

[Snoppy]

hallon1 wrote:

Snoppy wrote: http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110342-retribution_concordance_4_3_voice_dps/p111 Am gasit ce afecteaza gurtalak. Communion si probabil si Avenging's Wrath cand e afectata(20% damage increase) + Guardian care iti da stackuri de strenght. Enough said? Quote: Damage modifiers that will affect it include 3%/2% communion, CoE, avenging wrath, UH DK mastery, battle/berserker stance,boss mechanic global buffs/debuffs. Outside of that tick damage has remained constant. Cred ca e normal nu? Eu cred ca nu sti engleza asra mi-ai demonstrat mai citeste de 100 de ori .

eu zic ca vrei un +post si nu stii sa citesti ia mai citeste de 982340948230984230982 ori si vezi ca gurtalaku e afectat de communion.


,,Angel Among demons"

[Tamaie]

Scott wrote:

Nerd wrote: Snoppy wrote: Daca nu se scala cu avenging's wrath+censure la paladin, nu crezi ca toti palacii de pe retail jucau la axe si nu la sword? Si atunci "pala ret" aia de posteaza prin topicuri de ce zic ca nu se scaleaza? Ca sa il induca in eroare pe Snoppy de pe Freakz? Lasand la o parte limbajul de santz al individului de a postat mai sus, macar el a adus un oarecare "proof" ca se scaleaza doar cu mastery de la dk. Voi ce "proofs" ati adus ca a gresit ? Uite proofu da 14958 in berserker stance si da dmgul e de 13 k pe heroic nu 12 k cum e acum dar asta o sa postez altundeva. Pentru cei care nu cred asta e linku de la vod http://www.twitch.tv/landsoul_vodka/b/312324523 screenu e facut la minutul 5:04

This shokere, dmg'ul la noi e fixat pe 12k mereu...+ dupa ce repari sa tina cont de stance.

[Tamaie]

scz pt double post dar vreau sa va intreb pe astia care aveti arma si cei care au jucat pe blizz, TREBUIE cumva sa ai spell hit cap sa nu dai miss? pe warr am 8.18% hit si da miss tentaculul in pve si cand zi pve ma refer la trash fl care au 85 lvl si in ET da miss si PE DUMMY dau miss.
In caz ca e bug o sa aduc dovezi ca da miss, dar nu am gasit nicaieri daca trb spell hit cap pt el.

[Snoppy]

Tamaie wrote:

scz pt double post dar vreau sa va intreb pe astia care aveti arma si cei care au jucat pe blizz, TREBUIE cumva sa ai spell hit cap sa nu dai miss? pe warr am 8.18% hit si da miss tentaculul in pve si cand zi pve ma refer la trash fl care au 85 lvl si in ET da miss si PE DUMMY dau miss. In caz ca e bug o sa aduc dovezi ca da miss, dar nu am gasit nicaieri daca trb spell hit cap pt el.

din cate stiu e guardian si ar trebui sa copieze spellhit&crit de la proprietar.


,,Angel Among demons"

[Tamaie]

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It does not seem to inherit the player's melee crit as a post above me indicates. While on the 85 dummy with a lot of agility gear and no crit which pushed me to 11.62% melee crit and 1% spell crit and the same sample size of 542, 9 of those 542 ticks were crits. Assuming theres no crit suppression on the 85 dummy, this is a crit rate of about 1.66%, which is strongly in favor of inheriting the player's spell crit.

cu critul nu!

Dovada : http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1040084-Gurthalak-questions


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Crits are 150%. They also inherit the player's meta gem crit bonus, increasing crit damage to 154.5%

[Scott]

Tamaie wrote:

Citat Quote: It does not seem to inherit the player's melee crit as a post above me indicates. While on the 85 dummy with a lot of agility gear and no crit which pushed me to 11.62% melee crit and 1% spell crit and the same sample size of 542, 9 of those 542 ticks were crits. Assuming theres no crit suppression on the 85 dummy, this is a crit rate of about 1.66%, which is strongly in favor of inheriting the player's spell crit. cu critul nu! Dovada : http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1040084-Gurthalak-questions Citat: Quote: Crits are 150%. They also inherit the player's meta gem crit bonus, increasing crit damage to 154.5%

Pai nu mosteneste MELEE crit ci SPELL crit nu stiai ca waru are si spell hit si crit? In privinta missului am vazut si eu ca dai miss cu 9 % spell hit chance pe target de lvl 85 ceea ce ma face sa cred ca nu tine cont de hit-ul playerului asa cum nu tinea cont nici de crit pana sa repare shocker.

[Tamaie]

se repara si pt warr sa tina cont de stance? si sa nu mai dau miss pe moobi de lvl 85 + dummy cu 8.18% hit?...

[Snoppy]

Scott wrote:

Tamaie wrote: Citat Quote: It does not seem to inherit the player's melee crit as a post above me indicates. While on the 85 dummy with a lot of agility gear and no crit which pushed me to 11.62% melee crit and 1% spell crit and the same sample size of 542, 9 of those 542 ticks were crits. Assuming theres no crit suppression on the 85 dummy, this is a crit rate of about 1.66%, which is strongly in favor of inheriting the player's spell crit. cu critul nu! Dovada : http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1040084-Gurthalak-questions Citat: Quote: Crits are 150%. They also inherit the player's meta gem crit bonus, increasing crit damage to 154.5% Pai nu mosteneste MELEE crit ci SPELL crit nu stiai ca waru are si spell hit si crit? In privinta missului am vazut si eu ca dai miss cu 9 % spell hit chance pe target de lvl 85 ceea ce ma face sa cred ca nu tine cont de hit-ul playerului asa cum nu tinea cont nici de crit pana sa repare shocker.

eu am ca paladin 17% spell hit si tot dau miss cateodata .
Deci pana la urma z3ul1k3 nerdnab ai gasit vreun topic ca talentul communion nu afecteaza tentaculu?
@Doru: adauga acolo ca tentaculele iau increase dmg din avenging's wrath+communion


,,Angel Among demons"

[Tamaie]

shokere te rog eu repara tentaculu ala ca dau miss in prostie si pe lvl 85...pe lvl 87 nu mai zic...

[Snoppy]

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=34889 (wowhead link)
sau
CoE
Ar trebui sa dea increase la dmg mind flay-ului.
Si NU DAU.


,,Angel Among demons"

[Tamaie]

pentru ca nu a reparat shokeru damage modifiers.Mai da cineva miss cu tentaculul frate?...am 8.52% hit si da 1-2 miss per tentacul...e penibil sa procuie si sa dea miss.Nu cred ca warriori de pe blizz aveau 17% hit pt spell....daca ar fii asa nu ar mai folosii arma warriorii.
Se poate repara sa nu mai dea miss ca deja devine enervanta treaba...

[Snoppy]

Tamaie wrote:

pentru ca nu a reparat shokeru damage modifiers.Mai da cineva miss cu tentaculul frate?...am 8.52% hit si da 1-2 miss per tentacul...e penibil sa procuie si sa dea miss.Nu cred ca warriori de pe blizz aveau 17% hit pt spell....daca ar fii asa nu ar mai folosii arma warriorii. Se poate repara sa nu mai dea miss ca deja devine enervanta treaba...

asta e si ideea, pt dk si ret e imposibil sa dai miss cu gurthalaku(ceea ce e si adevarat si merge).
Pentru warrior ai toate motivele, warriorul are numai physical hits, pe cand paladinul si dk are o combinatie intre physical si magical.(dk nu stiu daca ia spell hit, dar la paladin ai sheet of light care te boosteaza cu 8% spell hit, + un hit rating melee de 8,31 sa zic %, ajungi la 17% si nu dai miss.)


,,Angel Among demons"

[Tamaie]

da ma dar nu exista warr pe blizz sa dea miss si nu cred ca e vreunu cu hit peste 8%..sau 8.50% maxim.NU ar mai fi bis arma ca pui deja prea mult hit...daca e 17%...sper sa se repare cat mai curand trb asta.