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Post Posted: 17-02-2013, 13:48:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=1943&&name=rupture
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Am observat ca sa facut un boost la rupture dar damage-ul este inca mic dupa parerea mea pentru un bleed de 5 combo points
Dovada / Proof:

avand formula de la Raster:
1 point : [572 + 6% of AP] damage over 8 seconds
2 points: [725 + 12% of AP] damage over 10 seconds
3 points: [882 + 18% of AP] damage over 12 seconds
4 points: [1043 + 24% of AP] damage over 14 seconds
5 points: [1208 + 30% of AP] damage over 16 seconds

5 points normal: 1208+14837*0.3=1208+4451.1=5259.1
la acest bleed se adauga revealing strike:5259.1*1.45=7625.695 damage over 16 sconds
Din cate stiu damageul trebuie sa fie in 8 tick-uri a cate 7625.695 damage dummy armor nu conteaza (bleed effect da ignore la armor) deci damageul pe tot timpul fara criticale ar fi 7625.695*8=61005.56 damage total in screenshot se vad tickuri de 1341-1571 o criticala de 2762 si un damage total pe rupture de 13757... daca incercati sa spuneti ca damage-ul de 7625.695 ar trebuii sa fie overall rupture damage ... scuze dar faceti si voi calculele sa vedeti ca nu sar mai merita sa faci 5 combo points pentru rupture pentru ca damage-ul ar fi acelasi:
1 punct (572+0.06*14837)*1.45=2119.9 pe 8 secunde
2 puncte (725+0.12*14837)*1.45=3632.888 pe 10 secunde
3 puncte (882+0.18*14837)*1.45=5151.357 pe 12 secunde
4 puncte (1043+0.24*14837)*1.45=6675.626 pe 14 secunde
5 puncte -----------------------------=7625.695 pe 16 secunde
deci pe secunda ar fi :
1 punct 2119.9/8=264,9875 damage
2 puncte 3632.888/10=363.2888 damage
3 puncte 5151.357/12=429.27975 damage
4 puncte 6675.626/14=~476.83 (sunt vreo 30 de zecimale aici) damage
5 puncte 7625.695/16=~476.605 damage

deci nu sar scala cum trebuie damage-ul in functie de combo points

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Post Posted: 18-02-2013, 07:09:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Damageul se calculeaza la 2 secunde si totalul ce iti iasa tie din formula e damageul care trebuie dat, nu ala care ar trebui sa il dea pe secunda.
In primul rand, din ce vad in printul tau e o problema la crit damage, e cam prea mic si probabil nu tine cont de diferite increasuri, aceeasi poveste si la eviscerate.
Pacat ca nu avem un rogue calumea pe serverul asta.



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Post Posted: 18-02-2013, 12:21:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Formula corecta pe Cataclysm 4.3.4 la level 85 era urmatoarea:

(142 + 20 * 1 * 5 + 0.0375 * AP * 1 )* 0.5 * 16 (in cazurile in care se dadea la 5 Combo Points).

Am facut urmatorul test: fara talente, fara gear pe mine, fara Revealing Strike ca si finisher booster am dat un Rupture de 5 Cp ce a avut ca si damage total: 2560 (320/tick*8).

Calculand dupa formula mi-a dat asa: (142+20*1*5+0.0375*1314*1)*0.5*16= 2330,2, ceea ce ar fi trebuit sa fie damage-ul meu total (sper, ma cam bate matematica).

Stiu ca nu conteaza opiniiile personale in asemenea topicuri dar, tin de asemenea sa mentionez ca pe 4.3.4, unbuffed, la dummy, la gear 403 Item Level dadeam cam 12-13k pe un ciclu de rupture deci cred ca functioneaza perfect normal.

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Nu vreau sa imi sara lumea in cap, eu asta am gasit pe net, stiu ca asta era formula si stiu ca damage-ul de la rupture ar trebui sa fie cam pe acolo pe unde este momentan. De asemenea sunt foarte multi rogues buni pe server Rastere dar trebuia sa rezolvati problema inca de pe PTR cu cei care au testat nu sa arunci cu gratuitati dupa.





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Post Posted: 18-02-2013, 15:06:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 21-02-2013, 16:18:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Si verifica cineva daca tine de cont de damage modifiers ? Gen, cat mai curand posibil.


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Post Posted: 22-02-2013, 00:26:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mi-am aruncat acum 1 ora ochii rapid peste modifiers de la fiecare tree, iar singuru' lucru gresit pe care l-am gasit, este https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=84617&&name=revealing-strike.

Fara Revealing Strike:
=>868


Cu Revealing Strike
=>952 in loc de 1171




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Post Posted: 22-02-2013, 00:53:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mie mi se pare ok dmg la rupture :/



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Post Posted: 22-02-2013, 01:07:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

rupture damage e cat de cat ok, spre deosebire de eviscerate, ce ... daca dau 10k crit zici ca mi-a pus dumnezeu mana in cap
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Post Posted: 22-02-2013, 01:09:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

nam testat dupa formule, dar asa la "ochiu liber" in situatii pve /pvp mi se pare ca destul de ok...e posibil totusi ca revealing sa nu functioneze corect in ceea ce priveste boostu de damage pt rupture pt ca nici pentru evisc nu functioneaza ...deci pare a fi o problema mai degraba la modifiers decat la rupture in sine


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Post Posted: 22-02-2013, 01:12:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Toti modifiers afecteaza dmg de la rupture 99% corect, mai putin reveling strike.



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Post Posted: 22-02-2013, 19:00:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Rogue-PvP-PvE-Rupture-t206372.html


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