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Post Posted: 30-03-2013, 09:49:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=33763&&name=lifebloom
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: I made another post that was deleted because gm said that gift of the earthmother was the one bugged. But if we say the talent works,lifebloom still doesnt heal correctly.
Dovada / Proof: http://postimg.org/image/uvo302w4p/ http://postimg.org/image/4omw44dux/
Dr damage says that it should do 581 on tick(what it does) and 6.7k on one stack bloom, but it only does 4.8k.
So we take the formula from drdmg : 0.518x9367(sp)=4.8k
If we add the multipliers
4800x0.25(gift of nature)=1213
4800x0.15(gift of the earthmother)=720

4800+1231+720=6700 the value that drdmg is displaying.

6700x3=20100(correct heal for LB bloom with 3 stacks without mastery)


LE: Video that shows how much heal should lb give https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&&v=-35EF-5Eyqw
On freakz with 10k sp it gives 15k and let s say u,eventually, repair gift of the earthmother:15k+15%=17k wich is still not right.

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Post Posted: 30-03-2013, 17:54:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 00:55:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

GMs don't believe drdmg (I do not believe it as well), so here's my own little research:

Lifebloom's spellpower coefficient: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=33763&&name=lifebloom
Lifebloom's base healing: http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/33763/lifebloom/

I tested Lifebloom with 1, 2, and 3 stacks, but amount of stacks doesn't affect expiring healing other way than multiplying healing by an amout of stacks on a character, so there's no point in showing all screenshots.

1. Amount of my Spell Power
Formula: [1847 + (SP * 0.284)] * Multipliers
2. Healing without talents
Good: [1847 + (4320 * 0.284)] * 1.0 = 3073.88
Wrong: -
3. Healing with spec bonus - Gift of Nature
Good: [1847 + (4320 * 0.284)] * 1.25 = 3842.35
Wrong: 3073 - healing w/o any multipliers
4. Healing with Gift of Nature and Master Shapeshifter
Good: [1847 + (4320 * 0.284)] * 1.29 = 3965.3052
Wrong: 3073 - healing w/o any multipliers
5. Healing with Gift of Nature, Master Shapeshifter and 1/3 Gift of the Earthmother
Good: [1847 + (4320 * 0.284)] * 1.34 = 4118.9992
Wrong: 3322 - it means that 1 point spent in Gift of the Earthmother talent gives 8% more healing from Lifebloom after expiring (3322 / 3073 = 1.0810), however it should only 5%
6. Healing with Gift of Nature, Master Shapeshifter and 2/3 Gift of the Earthmother
Good: [1847 + (4320 * 0.284)] * 1.39 = 4272.6932
Wrong: 3322 - it means only the first point spent in GotE gives increased healing from LB
7. Healing with Gift of Nature, Master Shapeshifter and 3/3 Gift of the Earthmother
Good: [1847 + (4320 * 0.284)] * 1.44 = 4426.3872
Wrong: the same as above
8. Healing with Gift of Nature, Master Shapeshifter, 3/3 Gift of Earthmother in Tree of Life form
Good: [1847 + (4320 * 0.284)] * 1.59 = 4887.4692
Wrong: 4396 - let's say the amount of healing with GotE talent is our base healing, it means that when we pop up ToL we get 32% (4396 / 3322 = 1.3233) increased healing from LB, while we should get only 15%.



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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 03:31:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

erm..this has made me laugh..even tho im not resto druid lol
I tested Lifebloom with 1, 2, and 3 stacks, but amount of stacks doesn't affect expiring healing, so there's no point in showing all screenshots.
tell me..how exactly stacks arent affecting finishing heal?o.o
for me as feral finishng heal from 1 stack of lifebloom is around..2k..so 3 stacks do the math : 3x2k = 6k.

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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 03:34:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I feel as if u want to rape resto druids in the *** for some reason hmm...I understand ur trying to help with all of those formulas and etc.....but dude saying that stack to expire heal ratio is like that..seriously?Not affected by stacks...u must not no anything about druids....
Next time u try and help please get ur facts right.

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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 03:57:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

You laugh, because you don't get it. However I don't blame you, 'cause I wrote it that way.I meant that for every stack healing is the same, just multiplied by an amount of stacks (amount of stack doesn't affect bonuses/other multipliers) on a character.
So, even if I said everything right, brought good proofs, you have a problem with one sentence? Come on, it's silly. (:

Restoration druid is the weakest healer in 4.3. and now, with all main talents and lifebloom bugged it's so much hard to play this spec. I don't play resto often, but I think it should be at the top of priority list.

And now a gift for you - the same sentence without a mental shortcut:
I tested Lifebloom with 1, 2, and 3 stacks, but amount of stacks doesn't affect expiring healing other way than multiplying healing by an amout of stacks on a character, so there's no point in showing all screenshots.

Better?

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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 08:43:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

So the formula is: [1847 + (SP * 0.284)] * Multipliers

Applied on my sp:
[1847+(9300*0.284)]*multipliers(1.25 gift of nature, we ignore the bugged gift of earthm.)=5610 not 4800 wich it gives.

Correct heal with all talents working:
[1847+(9300*0.284)]*1.25*1.15=6451(no mastery)

Conclusion: we have the formula, we know the bugs,why nobody tries to repair this spell??

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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 09:00:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

If a GM has not posted here, does it mean that. they aren't fixing it?
Torppeda I'd say that you need to create another topic with that message.It's very easy to understand and if it stays like a message in a bug report nobody will look at it very often.I can do it for you..



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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 12:34:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fat3, do not forget Master Shapeshifter talent! It should affect Lifebloom as well, but it doesn't!
And you cannot multiply multipliers, you have to add these multipliers up to each other (e.g. 1.0 + 0.x + 0.y).

Nseries, don't worry, they will read this topic and approve the bug. No need for double post. (:

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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 14:47:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i dont care about master shapeshifter, it only affect lb in treeform and it seems to be working well.
and what do u mean can't multiply, how i m supposed to add the multipl.?

DO u mean like this?

[1847+(9300*0.284)]+[1847+(9300*0.284)]*0.25+[1847+(9300*0.284)]*0.15=6283 ?

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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 15:23:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Master Shapeshifter Rank 1
Grants an effect which lasts while the Druid is within the respective shapeshift form.

Bear Form - Increases physical damage by 4%.

Cat Form - Increases critical strike chance by 4%.

Moonkin Form - Increases spell damage by 4%.

Tree of Life/Caster Form - Increases healing by 4%.


So Master Shapeshifter affects your healing in both ToL and Caster Form (Source: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48411&&name=master-shapeshifter).

I mean that if you've got Gift of the Nature, Master Shapeshifter, and Gift of the Earthmother talents, your have to multiply [(1847 + (SP * 0.284)] by (1.0 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.15).

PS Look at my first post, you'll see Master Shapeshifter doesn't wrok for Lifebloom's expiring healing.

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Post Posted: 01-04-2013, 02:07:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Formatted and said like this it is now correct,and yes as I`ve personaly said and it has been said again now,resto druids are the worst healer in 4.3
and considering the current bugs...it is even worse than it should be.And yes resto druids should be one of the highest class fix priorities since in order for us to be on one level with the rest of the healers we need to either be almost full or full heroic gear(for the moment).

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Post Posted: 03-04-2013, 07:19:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Helloooooo......anybody there.......echooooooo....... -

Why isn't this bug on confirmed at least? Is it that hard to apply the formula for lifebloom and make some tests to see if it's ok?

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Post Posted: 03-04-2013, 08:17:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I know, now a GM will say "why are u shouting?".
In "how to post" it says that if it s been more than a month and u didnt receive an answer u can bump......this topic is since january.....so me shouting "titanic" style is bump...


 
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You should learn what last post means.


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