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Post Posted: 24-05-2013, 19:36:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Another horrible bug related to critical mass occurs when 2 or more fire mages apply the effect on the target. For example, theres 2 fire mages, you apply your mass on the target at pull and then 1-2 seconds later the other mages applies it, you basically LOSE the 5% crit, this is definitely NOT the way they should work and i think alot of other classes are having issues very similar to our critical mass.


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Post Posted: 24-05-2013, 19:56:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Another horrible bug related to critical mass occurs when 2 or more fire mages apply the effect on the target. For example, theres 2 fire mages, you apply your mass on the target at pull and then 1-2 seconds later the other mages applies it, you basically LOSE the 5% crit, this is definitely NOT the way they should work and i think alot of other classes are having issues very similar to our critical mass.


Confirm, mi se pare mai necesar de facut un spell atat de important decat un boss dintr-un dungeon, efectiv se nerfeaza toti magi.

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Post Posted: 24-05-2013, 19:59:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Another horrible bug related to critical mass occurs when 2 or more fire mages apply the effect on the target. For example, theres 2 fire mages, you apply your mass on the target at pull and then 1-2 seconds later the other mages applies it, you basically LOSE the 5% crit, this is definitely NOT the way they should work and i think alot of other classes are having issues very similar to our critical mass.

asta chiar este un bug care dezavantajeaza magii daca sunt mai multi in raid, sper sa se repare cat mai repede, am vazut ca s'a reparat improved hot streak, acum sper sa se repare si asta

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Post Posted: 24-05-2013, 20:41:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 25-05-2013, 12:25:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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odes wrote:
Another horrible bug related to critical mass occurs when 2 or more fire mages apply the effect on the target. For example, theres 2 fire mages, you apply your mass on the target at pull and then 1-2 seconds later the other mages applies it, you basically LOSE the 5% crit, this is definitely NOT the way they should work and i think alot of other classes are having issues very similar to our critical mass.

asta chiar este un bug care dezavantajeaza magii daca sunt mai multi in raid, sper sa se repare cat mai repede, am vazut ca s'a reparat improved hot streak, acum sper sa se repare si asta

...what ? De efectul de 5% spell crit chance beneficiaza INTREGUL raid, iar efectul asta poate fi aplicat si de un warlock cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=17801&&name=shadow-and-flame
Nu are legatura cu numarul de magi dintr-un raid, va bate pe voi, e precum debufful de 8% increased spell damage taken gen https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=1490&&name=curse-of-the-elements sau https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48506&&name=earth-and-moon

Singura problema plauzibila ar fi faptul ca ORICE debuff de "increased spell crit chance" nu merge, inclusiv Shadow and Flame (asta vrea si autorul topicului sa sublinieze, insa voi ati deviat discutia).



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Post Posted: 25-05-2013, 13:28:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

O sa revin cu niste teste la ce ai specificat tu mai sus. Nu putem vorbi fara dovezi, insa Critical Massu ramane pe target ( nu visual ) doar in Combustion Helper cand il pune alt mage, si posibil sa nu mearga acel debuff de 5% , revin mai tarziu cu testele.
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Post Posted: 25-05-2013, 21:37:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am incercat eu sa testez acum pe dummy. Am efectuat 2 probe cu critical mass (al meu) pe target castand fireball si scorch cand era pe terminate debufful, 2 probe fara, castand doar fireball si 2 probe cu critical mass-ul altui mag.

Toate testele au fost efectuate pe 200+ casturi de fireball la 29.69% crit chance cu molten armor, glyph of fireball/pyroblast/molten armor, fara power torrent, lightweave sau alte intellect/spellpower procs.

Deci spell crit chance a fost static 29.69% in toate testele, iata si rezultatele:

-1st test no critical mass, 29.9% crit chance @ 254 fireball casts, unde e 5% din glyph?



-2nd test no critical mass, 37% crit chance @ 216 fireball casts, wtf?



-1st test with critical mass, 39% crit chance @ 290 fireball casts



-2nd test with my critical mass, 41.9% crit chance @ 229 fireball casts



-1st test with other mage's critical mass, 39% crit chance @ 251 fireball casts



-2nd test with other mage's critical mass, 39.2% crit chance @ 250 fireball casts



Nu stiu daca autorul topicului a avut probleme doar ca nu era hitcapped (o fi vreun server mechanic gresit si nu primesti full crit chance daca nu ai hit cap...speculez) sau daca chiar e ceva in neregula la mijloc cu spellul. Acestea au fost testele mele, daca ma intrebai acum o luna daca merge bine critical mass iti spuneam ca nu, dar se pare ca a fost doar o coincidenta foarte FOARTE mare de fiecare data cand imi lipseau 5% crits prin raiduri...trebuie totusi observate fluctuatile enorme la testele fara critical mass pe target, si nici macar nu aveam trinkets/enchants cu intellect care sa mai afecteze si ele crit chance-ul...

Mai mentionez ca magul care m-a ajutat a avut 30% crit chance self buffed fara procs, la sfarsitul primului test a iesit cu 35% crit chance pe scorch(doar asta a castat), si la al 2-lea cu 32.5%.

De unul singur nu pot dovedi nimic, sa mai posteze si altii rezultate cu teste similare, eventual si niste warlocks.

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Post Posted: 25-05-2013, 22:41:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Well, iti multumesc pentru timpul tau irosit in zadar. Exact aceleasi teste vroiam sa le fac si eu, dar ai mi-ai luat-o inainte. Este ceva ciudat , ceva ce nu mai tine de noi , nu putem testa mai mult de atat. Am mai vorbit cu cineva ( speculez ), este posibil ca atunci cand dispare visual debufful dp target sa se piarda si cel 5%.
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Post Posted: 25-05-2013, 22:53:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Well, iti multumesc pentru timpul tau irosit in zadar. Exact aceleasi teste vroiam sa le fac si eu, dar ai mi-ai luat-o inainte. Este ceva ciudat , ceva ce nu mai tine de noi , nu putem testa mai mult de atat. Am mai vorbit cu cineva ( speculez ), este posibil ca atunci cand dispare visual debufful dp target sa se piarda si cel 5%.


Pai trebuia sa efectuezi testele, si sa postezi rezultatele, cu cat posteaza mai multi acelasi rezultat cu atat ne e mai usor sa elucidam misterul crit chance + critical mass pe freakz...

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Post Posted: 26-05-2013, 21:53:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Adineauri am facut yor'sahj 25n... 32.3% crit pe fireball la 90 casturi frate...cu 38% crit la character stats, plus glyph plus critical mass tre sa am 48% pe fireball....nu stiu ce se intampla.
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Post Posted: 28-05-2013, 03:19:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

se vede simte clar ca iar "au reparat ceva la mage", ba critul ba hot streakul...voi plecati de la premiza ca da prea tare sau aplecati urechile la toti ce se plang (care nu au habar de skill), debuful critical mass nu merge + ca dispare cand da un alt mage pyro/scorch pe acelasi target
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Post Posted: 28-05-2013, 07:36:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

dispare al tau de pe target pentru ca e aplicat de alt mage sau lock... problema e ca dupa ce il aplica altii, tu nu mai beneficiezi de el... vizual, arata ca e, teoretic ar trebui sa beneficieze si altii de pe urma efectului, dar teoria si practica nu se inteleg prea bine se pare, fapt demonstrat mai sus de odes... singurul lucru care ar mai trebui demonstrat ar fi cu un lock, sa vezi ce se intampla cu debufful sau https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=17801&&name=shadow-and-flame . (scz, momentan nu am timp sa fac asta)

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Post Posted: 17-06-2013, 07:36:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

odes wrote:
Adineauri am facut yor'sahj 25n... 32.3% crit pe fireball la 90 casturi frate...cu 38% crit la character stats, plus glyph plus critical mass tre sa am 48% pe fireball....nu stiu ce se intampla.


Confirm. Eu am 36% crit pe fireball la 200+ casturi...cu 41% crit la stats + gliph fireball+ critical mass, ar trebui sa am 51% pe fireball...deci ceva este necurat la mijloc.

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Post Posted: 24-06-2013, 20:56:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

azi am patit de 3 ori sa dispare comb de pe boss eram 3 mage in raid ....



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