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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 10:18:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Dupa multiple teste si analize, am observat ceva tare, nu merge Expertise ! Iar Hit Rating'ul, merge...oarecum.
Testele urmatoare au fost realizate la un Dummy tip Raid Boss (Level 88).


In screen 1 de mai jos veti observa ca nu dau niciun Dodge / Miss / Parry cu 0 Expertise.

In screen 2 de mai jos veti observa faptul ca fara gear (just weapon care are Crit & Mastery) si cu Hit si Expertise reduse la 0, reusesc sa dau 2 missuri (categoric din cauza Hit Rating-ului)


Dovada / Proof: Screen 1 si Screen 2


Cei care vin comments gen "RNG br0000", puteti sa testati chiar si voi, eu nu am facut doar un singur test, am facut zeci. Dar am postat doar 2 poze deoarecee nu sunt necesare 100. E obvious ca nu merge.

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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 11:39:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu stiu ce sa spun, ieri am dat dodge la Morchok, cu 0.50% sansa de dodge, iar cu white attack am dat destule miss-uri ca shaman...
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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 11:41:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ai missuri la shaman din cauza ca ai dual si iti trebuie cap mai mare nu de 8% ci de 27% ca sa nu mai dai miss cu auto attack



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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 12:03:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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toata lumea cred ca este constienta de aces bug si multi playeri deja au renuntat la 26 expertise si 8%hit(sau 17 in cazul shamanilor enha si a rogilor parca). cu 10 expertise, intr-un encounter iti da boss-ul, maxim de 2 ori dodge/parry, cat despre hit, nu am incercat pana acum sa-l scot de tot, dar cu 5% hit da-i miss foarte rar



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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 14:18:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

confirm,raiding with 0 exp on dk atm,10 dodges max


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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 14:21:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pai la partea cu miss nu ai dat decat 350k dmg ... da si tu 5 milioane



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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 14:25:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pai doar cu arma cat dmg vrei sa dea in 1, 2 min?
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Post Posted: 19-07-2013, 18:06:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

hallon1 wrote:
pai la partea cu miss nu ai dat decat 350k dmg ... da si tu 5 milioane


In poza aia, nu aveam gear pe mine si daca observi am dat 100 hits, daca nu te cunosti, nu mai posta, multumesc.

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Post Posted: 20-07-2013, 07:57:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dazz, hitul merge cum trebuie. Nu stiu care zicea mai sus ca rogues joaca la 8% (u mad bro? poisons much?). Am testat eu cu Sayon acum vreo 2-3 saptamani hitul si dadeam miss cam proportional cu lipsa acestuia (daca aveam 14% hit dadeam vreo 30-40 miss-uri cu IP, ma rog o sa pun SS daca e nevoie).

Cat despre expertise aici e buba. Eu joc momentan la 24/21 si mi s-a mai intamplat sa dau dodge si parry in raiduri. Cred ca baietii ce au sarit sa confirme mai sus nu inteleg dinamica expertise-ului. Tu chiar daca ai 0, daca stai constant in spatele bossului, ar trebui sa nu dai mai mult de 20 de parries, dodges pe fight, asta am testat pe blizz, jucam la 23/20 Exp (fix ca pe freakz at that time) si am dat vreo 5 abilitati ratate la Morchock. Cred ca ar trebui testat mult mai mult, aduse formule, si, eventual sa faca unii dintre cei care inca mai joaca pe blizz un test paralel fiindca "% values" raman aceleasi.





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Post Posted: 20-07-2013, 08:07:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da, eu am testat in raids si la dummy si ce vezi in screenurile de mai sus, exact asta am observat.

Ideea e ca pe blizz din cate stiu expertise si hit sunt in procentaje acum, 7% parca, e changed...Nu stiu exact cum e pe MoP.

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Post Posted: 20-07-2013, 09:01:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

boscodeala wrote:
Tu chiar daca ai 0, daca stai constant in spatele bossului, ar trebui sa nu dai mai mult de 20 de parries, dodges pe fight, asta am testat pe blizz, jucam la 23/20 Exp (fix ca pe freakz at that time) si am dat vreo 5 abilitati ratate la Morchock. Cred ca ar trebui testat mult mai mult, aduse formule, si, eventual sa faca unii dintre cei care inca mai joaca pe blizz un test paralel fiindca "% values" raman aceleasi.



Stai asa daca tu ai 0 expertiese si stai constant in spatele bossului ar trebui sa primesti doar dodge (6.5% chance) nu si parry iar cantitatea de dodgeuri depinde de rng si cate abilitati dai .Acum si eu am impresia ca e ceva in neregula cu expertiese insa e adevarat ca trebuie testat mai bine si aduse dovezi de la bosi .


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Post Posted: 20-07-2013, 09:10:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bossii din ds sunt buguiti in sensul ca nu au level 88+ ci au level 85 sau chiar mai mic.
Pentru melee care folosesc doar 1 arma e de ajuns sa ai hit de 5% si expertise de 20 si nu mai dai niciun miss sau nu primesti dodge/parry.
Degeaba comparati cu dummy de level 88 din sw pentru ca exact cum v-am spus mai sus bossii au level mai mic decat dummy.

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Bossii din ds sunt buguiti in sensul ca nu au level 88+ ci au level 85 sau chiar mai mic.
Pentru melee care folosesc doar 1 arma e de ajuns sa ai hit de 5% si expertise de 20 si nu mai dai niciun miss sau nu primesti dodge/parry.
Degeaba comparati cu dummy de level 88 din sw pentru ca exact cum v-am spus mai sus bossii au level mai mic decat dummy.


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Post Posted: 20-07-2013, 11:21:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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daca stai constant in spatele bossului, ar trebui sa nu dai mai mult de 20 de parries, dodges pe fight


Daca imi amintesc eu destul de bine, in PvE nu conteaza pozitionarea pentru dodge / miss / parry. Bossi pot da dodge / parry si cu spatele parca Thinking



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Post Posted: 20-07-2013, 12:07:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bossul poate sa iti dea doar dodge si miss cand e cu spatele la tine .Parry nu poate .De aia melee ar trebui sa ajunga doar la expertiese softcap

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