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Post Posted: 16-08-2013, 10:19:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Maladoi wrote:
Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=19263&&name=deterrence (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: It stops the hunter from taking certain spells, ex. cheap shot, backstab, ambush ( all mentioned should be usable on the hunter from behind except cheapshot, it can be used from any position while hunter is deterrenced ), all you get is the message 'miss' when you're trying to land a skill from those mentioned onto a hunter with deterrence active.
Dovada / Proof: AJ quote ''All attacks that require you to be behind your target work through detterance for some reason, i think feral shred works too, probably just an oversight with parry mechanics :0 ''
" Cheapshot/Pounce/Ambush/Ravage/Garrote are all moves preformed from stealth, which means they cannot be dodged/blocked/parried.

Shred/Backstab are moves which are preformed from behind which LOOSELY ties them to "cannot be dodged/blocked/parried" (though you sometimes can... EXCEPT when you're deterrenced, interestingly enough). "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&&v=3z_XozRwEGA#! - 12:59, hunter used detter and gets hit after for 12k~ backstab crit and waylay gets applied onto him.


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Ca sa explic pe scurt. Orice abilitate care o dai din stealth (si necesita stealth pentru a putea fi folosita) trece prin deterrance in afara de sap. Orice abilitate care necesita Pozitionarea in spatele inamicului trece prin deterrence. Orice abilitate care nu poate primi parry/nu poate da miss trece prin deterrence. Ex: Overpower, Shattering throw, Heroic throw. (exclus deadly throw si normal Throw).

Just more proof.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657439882
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1253415820
http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/117257-cheap-shotting-through-deterrence/
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/706464-Hitting-through-deterrence
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This bug report was invalid to begin with and you should revert it immediately since that is NOT how deterrence worked in 4.3.4.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Deterrence
http://wowpedia.org/Deterrence

Cataclysm Patch 4.0.6 (2011-02-08): Now provides 100% chance for melee attacks to miss instead of 100% parry chance. This means that attacks that cannot be parried, notably some rogue abilities, can now be prevented by Deterrence, and the hunter will gain the benefit of Deterrence even if disarmed.

All the "proof" brough by Groovy is BEFORE the patch actually landed and in all the posts they talk about parrying in deterrence which you can see isn't the case since it was changed from parry to miss.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1253415820 - time of that post 12/6/2010 (before 4.0.6)
http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/117257-cheap-shotting-through-deterrence/ - december 2009 (WAAAAY before 4.0.6)
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/706464-Hitting-through-deterrence - 2010-04-04 (again, before 4.0.6)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657439882 - 12/03/2011 (a month after the patch and there's only ONE person complaining about cheap shot) - the only reason that guy got cheapshotted through deterence is because of bad timing.

Maladoi wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&&v=3z_XozRwEGA#! - 12:59, hunter used detter and gets hit after for 12k~ backstab crit and waylay gets applied onto him.


This is also the case, the got backstabed right before the deter (you can see the damage came through a milisecond before the deter) and that's why the debuff got applied a bit later (yay latency)

Also again, all the proof that was brought up talk about Deterrence giving a chance to "parry" not to "miss" so it's obviously out-dated. Because of the change rogues shouldn't be able to open on you while deterred, since all abilities will "miss", there is literally no spell that goes through deterrence (not even chaos bolt).

So would you kindly "fix" deterrence, because right it's really not working as intended.

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Post Posted: 27-08-2013, 19:43:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I think it was reverted.. at least on genesis seems to be.
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Post Posted: 27-08-2013, 20:13:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yeah seems to be reverted.
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Post Posted: 19-09-2013, 11:04:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Flatlined wrote:
Yeah seems to be reverted.


Зе&am wrote:
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Post Posted: 19-09-2013, 11:30:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Zohlomg wrote:
Flatlined wrote:
Yeah seems to be reverted.


Зе&am wrote:
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It's fine right now, he bumped every hunter topic :/

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Post Posted: 19-09-2013, 11:40:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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